A ORLOV Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Steve Shovlar said: Er, what on earth has that got to do with anything? Kurtz rode at 1, Morris was protected with easier rides. Swindon fans happy with Morris. Poole fans happy with Kurtz and a saving of the best part of a point. Morris unlikely to improve his average. Kurtz likely to add a point. Who is the best deal? Morris 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: Morris 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: Morris How do you work that out? Genuine question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Steve Shovlar said: How do you work that out? Genuine question. Because Poole signed Kurtz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 They are both good. And here is something we should all be worried about no matter what club. Where the hell are the Brits that are this good. They have Morris, Kurtz, Fricke and Holder. With more coming through. We have Lambert, Bewley, Ellis. Yes Lambert and Bewley are younger. But we need them to get to that standard not the Kyle Newman, Jason Garrity level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, Steve Shovlar said: How do you work that out? Genuine question. Because in some meetings last year Jason was not riding and we still won them with good scores from Nick. He has proven that he can get and have a better average than Brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, BurntFaceMan said: Because Poole signed Kurtz. You are welcome to him, the rider that Poole fans were claiming would win the Aus Championship and not get beaten by a second string rider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: Because in some meetings last year Jason was not riding and we still won them with good scores from Nick. He has proven that he can get and have a better average than Brady. time will tell, but I think Chris holder will have a higher average than Morris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Er, what on earth has that got to do with anything? Kurtz rode at 1, Morris was protected with easier rides. Swindon fans happy with Morris. Poole fans happy with Kurtz and a saving of the best part of a point. Morris unlikely to improve his average. Kurtz likely to add a point. Who is the best deal? Easier rides how many times did he ride with Doyle ?? and he never ever looked for his partner Morris now can move on and be a proper no 1 Kurtz i rate highly but Morris and Fricke are better riders at this moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: You are welcome to him, the rider that Poole fans were claiming would win the Aus Championship and not get beaten by a second string rider. does it really matter, I would certainly have Kurtz over tungate that's for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 13 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Er, what on earth has that got to do with anything? Kurtz rode at 1, Morris was protected with easier rides. Swindon fans happy with Morris. Poole fans happy with Kurtz and a saving of the best part of a point. Morris unlikely to improve his average. Kurtz likely to add a point. Who is the best deal? Morris will do fine thanks, arguably the best rider at the Abbey since Leigh. Trust me when I say this, the kid is only going one way & that’s up. He’s only 23..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: You are welcome to him, the rider that Poole fans were claiming would win the Aus Championship and not get beaten by a second string rider. The Aus Championship that Nick Morris didn't turn up to this year, and lost two rounds to Kurtz in last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, hyabb17 said: Morris will do fine thanks, arguably the best rider at the Abbey since Leigh. Trust me when I say this, the kid is only going one way & that’s up. He’s only 23..... he is not on the same plannet as adams , and dont forget a certain mr ward rode for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Arthur Fry said: does it really matter, I would certainly have Kurtz over tungate that's for sure “Poole fans happy with Kurtz. Belle Vue fans happy with Tungate and a saving of the best part of two points. Who is the best deal?” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 I quite like Morris, but in all honesty he was second behind a dominant Doyle in the averages last season whilst Kurtz was at number one most of the season. It remains to be seen if Morris can maintain his starting average whilst riding at number one next season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 34 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: You clearly have an inability to spot fast rising talent. He has already surpassed Morris regardless of last years Premiership averages. You clearly have an inability to read as I'd previously stated Kurtz has talent. Under no circumstances has he 'surpassed ' Morris, although I'd be interested to read how you quantify that. As the worst number one averaged rider (barring Rye) it's hardly anything for any fan to brag about. What you can brag about however is the development he has made in 2017. Signs are good. However until he delivers that promise (that he may or may not happen) he is just a very promising emerging talent. In the UK he has a way to go before anyone can say he is already a better rider than Morris who is clearly the better top flight rider before a wheel has turned in 2018. 20 minutes ago, BurntFaceMan said: Everybody would choose Kurtz over Morris because he's the better rider. Averages are a different thing. If you are choosing who to sign on averages you would probably go with Kurtz, however if you were looking to sign the better rider in the UK it would be Morris. You seem to be getting the 2 confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, ouch said: “Poole fans happy with Kurtz. Belle Vue fans happy with Tungate and a saving of the best part of two points. Who is the best deal?” Kurtz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pinny said: I quite like Morris, but in all honesty he was second behind a dominant Doyle in the averages last season whilst Kurtz was at number one most of the season. It remains to be seen if Morris can maintain his starting average whilst riding at number one next season... Doyle was not that dominant at Premiership level, Morris never looked out of place riding with him and I believe he can kick on and Morris will be tough to beat at the Abbey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 If you are looking at value I think Tungate is likely to add more to his average than Morris or Kurtz. He was on fire at the end of last season, unbeaten in the Australian GP and now the outstanding rider in the Australian Championship. His confidence is going to be sky high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Sidney the robin said: Doyle was not that dominant at Premiership level, Morris never looked out of place riding with him and I believe he can kick on and Morris will be tough to beat at the Abbey. Well he topped the league averages so though dominant may not quite be right, Morris was still the best part of a point below him and Doyle took the pressure off him. Now he is the teams star number one, theres question marks over whether he can go out and win the big heat 13 and 15’s. hopefully he does, always been a fan of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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