noggin Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 I guess we won't be getting any "under dogs, backs to the wall, against the odds" speeches this season as Poole thrash everyone out of sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I think we can safely say that Kurtz wasn't a 'cut above' anybody in that field after all. Maybe in the future. Or maybe not. I'm sure he will be I would rather have him In my team than against me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, noggin said: I guess we won't be getting any "under dogs, backs to the wall, against the odds" speeches this season as Poole thrash everyone out of sight. I wouldn't bet on it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, stevebrum said: True. He isn't a number one anymore but still more than capable of adding a bit more. He is for Poole this season and some on here think he will beat Nick Morris, very unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, geoff58 said: kurtz clearly fell on his own in is 2nd ride campton no where near him but was put back in re-run !! so swings and roundabouts tungate hard but fair & tungate a worthy winner not bad for a Aces 2nd string No Campton was nowhere near him. Agreed. It was Jack Holder. They touched on the apex and Kurtz came off. Fair call to rerun. Heat 20 Tungate clearly touched the tapes. Should have been out but ref bottled it. In rerun Tungate was far from hard but fair. If it had been on TV no one would have said the move fair. If he had done that to Kildemand you would know what would have happened. Kurtz should have just laid it down. It was a dirty move, premeditated as he looked twice to see where Kurtz was before piling into him. Edited January 14, 2018 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) Just as well Brady rides the UK tracks a lot better then - as his higher average proves. I seem to remember Rohan couldn't hack it as a Number 1 and had to settle for a 6.18 2nd string role!!! Edited January 14, 2018 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, geoff58 said: if's ? but's ? maybe's ? if our play/off semi-final had been on tv lindgren would have been exc for sure & who knows what the final result would have been ? so lets go for FACTS kurtz bottled another final !!! we got beat in play/off semi final and a Aces 2nd string is a well deserved 2018 Aussie champ remember gogglegate with newman another rule that the referee clearly forgot what goes around comes around !! mind that lump in your throat How strange that a “new” poster makes these comments. It leads one to think he is someone in disguise. But regardless of that, there’s a thread in the international speedway section for the Aussie championships. It is an individual comp so very little to do with cluttering up the Poole threads. If you are a Belle Vue fan go celebrate Tungates win over there and leave this part so we can discuss just how good the 2018 Pirates team is shaping up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Just as well Brady rides the UK tracks a lot better then - as his higher average proves. Much as it would have been good for Brady to have won the championship, and frustrating as it is that he did blow it in 4 finals, ultimately it doesn't mean too much as hopefully he is now qualified for the Speedway GP Qualifiers for the coming season as runner up. I think better to assess Brady's improvement (or lack of) come the end of 2018 after he has ridden the season for Poole/Leszno/Sweden and whatever individual qualifiers he participates in. Only then we can say if his development is still going forward (which hopefully it will be). Similar can be said for Jack Holder who did well to win 2 rounds and if he moves forward in UK & POL in 2018 then I am sure Matt Ford will have him back if possible for 2019. Tungate has done very well since he appeared unbeaten in the rides he took in the Aussie GP, and has been in great form since in individual tournaments and also overall in the Aussie Champ. Can he bring that form back to UK and POL/SWE ?? - Will be interesting to see if he could be another Aussie late developer or if he reverts back to his form of the last few seasons. Cant take anything away from Tungate in the Aussie series and yes, Brady needs to overcome this final blow out that crept in this series. BUT lets all remember he was only 21 in September and plenty of time to build up the mental strength to handle these situations. He is developing well for a rider so young so lets concentrate on the positives as he irons out those minor negatives. I think most know who will probably be the better rider of the two long term ;-) Lets not keep making the comparison to say Darcy Ward, and let the guy develop at a rate comfortable to him without having that great weight hung around his neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: So Tungate simply wanted it more then and done what was needed - it was to decide a National Championship after all. The ref obviously didnt see it as unfair and you roll the dice and take the odds Ref's nearly always let it go unless a riders goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, A ORLOV said: He is for Poole this season and some on here think he will beat Nick Morris, very unlikely. Stevebrum was talking about Hans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Stevebrum was talking about Hans But earlier SS was on about N Morris not being as good as him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, A ORLOV said: But earlier SS was on about N Morris not being as good as him. You replied to Stevebrum though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, geoff58 said: oh how suspicious the pie-rats get pmsl truth hurts sometimes pmsl i'll tell you how it's shaping up ? the normal way getting riders on wrong averages that's how but fans of other teams are used to that pmsl so why didn't you post on the individual thread ????? pmsl ah well it's always great to see the pie-rats already getting their kleenex tissues out pmsl Yes, you are a former poster! The pie-rats gives it away, can't remember the name though... Trackrat, was it??! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 13 minutes ago, geoff58 said: oh how suspicious the pie-rats get pmsl truth hurts sometimes pmsl i'll tell you how it's shaping up ? the normal way getting riders on wrong averages that's how but fans of other teams are used to that pmsl so why didn't you post on the individual thread ????? pmsl ah well it's always great to see the pie-rats already getting their kleenex tissues out pmsl You have gone through several pairs of pants there. Your missus will be wondering what that other rancid smell is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: But earlier SS was on about N Morris not being as good as him. IMO Morris isn’t as good as Kurtz. Kurtz has far more potential which will be revealed in the next few years. Lets see what 2018 brings. But I would be suprised if Brady ends next season with a higher average than Morris. Interestingly Jason Crump in commentary today, when reading out a Morris tweet, said, “where are you, you should be here.” if a three times World Champion thinks Morris should be taking part in the Aussie Championships, perhaps he should be listening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Of course Tungate's move wouldn't be termed 'dirty' if it was a Poole rider making it at Wimborne Road on a Wednesday evening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason.C Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 32 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Yes, you are a former poster! The pie-rats gives it away, can't remember the name though... Trackrat, was it??! Prat springs to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Of course Tungate's move wouldn't be termed 'dirty' if it was a Poole rider making it at Wimborne Road on a Wednesday evening I’d say it was a hard move, but then it was a championship final. I think it’s a bit harsh from those that are saying Brady bottled it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Brady didn't bottle it just seemed Tungate wanted it more the usual Shovlar guff to make us all laugh though. As I said even before the Aussie champs is that Kurtz messes up one or two rides every meeting and when the pressure is on he over rides if anything. It's not coincidence that it was all 4 finals he messed up in. so a Belle Vue second string beats Pooles number 1.....oops! Kurtz as I said has huge potential if he can eradicate the mistakes...... he could yet be as good as Nick Morris time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason.C Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Gavan said: Kurtz as I said has huge potential if he can eradicate the mistakes...... he could yet be as good as Nick Morris time will tell Could yet be as good as Nick Morris? Nice try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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