Poole 2018

[Sidney the robin]

1 hour ago, Matt Ford Fan said:

Because he isn't a lock for a team place. 

If we get Sundstrom or a rider of that calibre then Shanes is in. 

If we can only get a 5.5 or a 6 point rider then Shanes wont be.

Although its obviously the final 2 are Sundstrom and Shanes.

 

Most of your predictions never happen so i will take that with a pinch of salt and to be honest if i was James i would of tried to get fixed up elsewhere.Zach W at Swindon and Shanes both should of been certainties for a place both will improve a no brainer really.If he does not get a place it will be a utter disgrace  a rider who does not get mentioned Mark Riss a talented rider who will improve could he be an option for somebody.?

Edited January 10, 2018 by Sidney the robin

[ray c]

22 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said:

Most of your predictions never happen so i will take that with a pinch of salt and to be honest if i was James i would of tried to get fixed up elsewhere.Zach W at Swindon and Shanes both should of been certainties for a place both will improve a no brainer really.If he does not get a place it will be a utter disgrace  a rider who does not get mentioned Mark Riss a talented rider who will improve could he be an option for somebody.?

I think james also needs to expiore all his options im sure there is a place waiting for him in manchester !!!!

[Hamish McRaker]

2 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

I do hope Chris Holder is pulling our leg with the picture of what looks like 2 busted wrists in A&E on his twitter page this morning......

If this guy has seriously injured himself then there should be some serious questions asked by Matt if its some kind of motorcycling accident when he is not even competition riding. If its true I do hope we have not lost one of out top riders for ??? months and then he has to get back to full fitness.

Cant see any other posts from him since he shared it with Crump and another (plus anyone who follows him).

Will also be somewhat galling that he has not posted to my knowledge one single comment about how pleased he is to be back at Poole (or any other positive comment about returning), yet if true he is more than happy to share some personal injury misfortune to anyone following him on twitter.

Anyway it may not even be him or it may be an old photo, but even so as it stands it doesn't look too clever and surely raises maybe some doubts on his availability for the season start.

Also if true I bet Matt Ford will be less than a happy bunny with the Poles also still dragging their feet on the 3 league rule thus slowing up the Sundtrom announcement (as well as poor James Shanes who is awaiting the outcome as its all linked).

I think you will find they are injuries caused by getting off the handcuffs put on him by Mr Ford

[Sidney the robin]

15 minutes ago, ray c said:

I think james also needs to expiore all his options im sure there is a place waiting for him in manchester !!!!

Ray he is a rider who is so exciting, at the Abbey at the end of the season he was great value imagine him and Bewley at reserve for Belle Vue it would be exciting times for there fans.

[STEVEHOLS54]

I see that Chris Holder has just signed up for a new Team Hancock Raj. Some form of new Speedway Team concept according to WP Sport Fackty.

From his comments he also seem quite excited at the venture. His comments as copied from the article in the last 10 mins.

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The Australian does not hide that he is positive about working with his older colleague. -  When Greg invited me to this project, I thought it was amazing. I knew right away that I wanted to be involved in this program. It does not often happen to be part of something like that and I'm excited about it. Greg and Rafał have big plans. We will be like a motocross team, where everything is planned and done to the max.  I can not wait for the beginning of this cooperation. Last season was not easy for me, but it seems to me that this is a new beginning and a really nice opportunity for a fresh start - said Holder.

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Interesting isn't it that he is more than happy to make comments in the POL press about this so called exciting new venture, but not a single word from the man about signing and returning to Poole in 2018.

Is it really that obvious that he doesn't want to be there in 2018 ???. I think near enough every major rider who has signed for a UK team has put comments out on social media about how happy they are to be riding for xyz in 2018 or have made comments via other media outlets about how happy they are.

Unfortunately Mr Holder has given us nothing to date. Even maybe a watered down "Back at Poole for 2018, and a thumbs up" would be better than total silence on his UK Club for 2018. We know he is using twitter as he is posting old injury photos to his friends while viewing the Aussie Champ.,

Is it really that painful to put something out to the Poole Fans who ultimately will be paying a fair chunk of his UK income.

[Steve Shovlar]

CH retweeted the Poole twitter video announcing his return.

as for this Hancock thing, rings of Hancock/Hamill hock up a while back. Team Exide?

[STEVEHOLS54]

Look don't get me wrong as I am a Chris Fan (as a rider that is).

I was not aware re the twitter as have not seen it but exactly the same was put out on his website yesterday.

The point I am making is that he has only put out the official announcement in which even that only has Matts comments with nothing in the way of comment from Chris.

Its is normal for riders to put out a personal comment from themselves saying they are pleased or happy to be riding in 2018 for ??? and are looking forward to riding or in Chris's case returning to the club.

Is it me or is there nothing in the way of any personal comment from Chris, which is what is making me think he is doing this near enough against his own wishes and only because without Poole he had no other option which perhaps could also have maybe affected his visa??

Someone like Hans Andersen would have made a comment about how happy he would have been to be returning to Poole as no doubt most other senior heat leader figures (or even normal middle/lower riders) would have put out more personal messages other than just forwarding the clubs statement which had no personal input/comment from the rider himself.

Its hardly welcoming himself back into the hearts of the Poole supporters although I suppose irrespective of what he thinks, ultimately its what he does on the track that matters. I am sure if he doesn't perform then we know what the ultimate outcome will be either mid or end of the 2018 season.

Lets hope that's not the case. Would have been nice to have seen something from the guy personally though and I think many Poole fans would agree.

[poolebolton]

6 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

Look don't get me wrong as I am a Chris Fan (as a rider that is).

I was not aware re the twitter as have not seen it but exactly the same was put out on his website yesterday.

The point I am making is that he has only put out the official announcement in which even that only has Matts comments with nothing in the way of comment from Chris.

Its is normal for riders to put out a personal comment from themselves saying they are pleased or happy to be riding in 2018 for ??? and are looking forward to riding or in Chris's case returning to the club.

Is it me or is there nothing in the way of any personal comment from Chris, which is what is making me think he is doing this near enough against his own wishes and only because without Poole he had no other option which perhaps could also have maybe affected his visa??

Someone like Hans Andersen would have made a comment about how happy he would have been to be returning to Poole as no doubt most other senior heat leader figures (or even normal middle/lower riders) would have put out more personal messages other than just forwarding the clubs statement which had no personal input/comment from the rider himself.

Its hardly welcoming himself back into the hearts of the Poole supporters although I suppose irrespective of what he thinks, ultimately its what he does on the track that matters. I am sure if he doesn't perform then we know what the ultimate outcome will be either mid or end of the 2018 season.

Lets hope that's not the case. Would have been nice to have seen something from the guy personally though and I think many Poole fans would agree.

You say that but Woryna put hardly anything up. Just a picture really. And only that SGP page actually spoke about him really. 

Josh G put up nothing and he has Instagram. 

Matt S put up nothing. 

Only Brady put stuff up really. 

[DWP]

6 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

I do hope Chris Holder is pulling our leg with the picture of what looks like 2 busted wrists in A&E on his twitter page this morning......

If this guy has seriously injured himself then there should be some serious questions asked by Matt if its some kind of motorcycling accident when he is not even competition riding. If its true I do hope we have not lost one of out top riders for ??? months and then he has to get back to full fitness.

Cant see any other posts from him since he shared it with Crump and another (plus anyone who follows him).

Will also be somewhat galling that he has not posted to my knowledge one single comment about how pleased he is to be back at Poole (or any other positive comment about returning), yet if true he is more than happy to share some personal injury misfortune to anyone following him on twitter.

Anyway it may not even be him or it may be an old photo, but even so as it stands it doesn't look too clever and surely raises maybe some doubts on his availability for the season start.

Also if true I bet Matt Ford will be less than a happy bunny with the Poles also still dragging their feet on the 3 league rule thus slowing up the Sundtrom announcement (as well as poor James Shanes who is awaiting the outcome as its all linked).

I don’t know also but saw the photo. Have you read Polish Extraliga contract for 2018. There is a clause in it, that a rider is fined big time if injured outside of speedway. That includes falling down stairs, one of the reasons I believe Hancock not doing Extraliga. There are some other unbelievable clauses in it also. 

[Call me wolfie]

Isn't Sundstrom doing Denmark aswell?  Grindsted?

[scottyfan]

6 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

I do hope Chris Holder is pulling our leg with the picture of what looks like 2 busted wrists in A&E on his twitter page this morning......

If this guy has seriously injured himself then there should be some serious questions asked by Matt if its some kind of motorcycling accident when he is not even competition riding. If its true I do hope we have not lost one of out top riders for ??? months and then he has to get back to full fitness.

Cant see any other posts from him since he shared it with Crump and another (plus anyone who follows him).

Will also be somewhat galling that he has not posted to my knowledge one single comment about how pleased he is to be back at Poole (or any other positive comment about returning), yet if true he is more than happy to share some personal injury misfortune to anyone following him on twitter.

Anyway it may not even be him or it may be an old photo, but even so as it stands it doesn't look too clever and surely raises maybe some doubts on his availability for the season start.

Also if true I bet Matt Ford will be less than a happy bunny with the Poles also still dragging their feet on the 3 league rule thus slowing up the Sundtrom announcement (as well as poor James Shanes who is awaiting the outcome as its all linked).

Isn’t that the injury he had a couple of years ago when he last rode in the Aussie Championship??

[A ORLOV]

47 minutes ago, DWP said:

I don’t know also but saw the photo. Have you read Polish Extraliga contract for 2018. There is a clause in it, that a rider is fined big time if injured outside of speedway. That includes falling down stairs, one of the reasons I believe Hancock not doing Extraliga. There are some other unbelievable clauses in it also. 

Well that is up to the rider to accept the clauses and sign it or get the contract changed if he is a top rider and able to.

If the team will not alter the contract then it is up to the rider to accept or decline the position.

Exactly the same would apply in the UK. 

[Steve Shovlar]

2 minutes ago, scottyfan said:

Isn’t that the injury he had a couple of years ago when he last rode in the Aussie Championship??

Yes.

 

[stevebrum]

8 hours ago, Matt Ford Fan said:

But don't rule out Piotr Pawlicki. 

Already is ruled out. He is a 9 or an 8. Confirmed by his boss.

Wolves bound if he is 7.32 early mid season. 

Edited January 10, 2018 by stevebrum
missing information.

[ouch]

9 hours ago, Matt Ford Fan said:

But don't rule out Piotr Pawlicki. 

Not interested in a UK return which is a shame as his 7 point odd average would have made him an attractive addition to most starting line ups come March. 

[LisaColette]

4 hours ago, poolebolton said:

You say that but Woryna put hardly anything up. Just a picture really. And only that SGP page actually spoke about him really. 

Josh G put up nothing and he has Instagram. 

Matt S put up nothing. 

Only Brady put stuff up really. 

But at least Josh has been interviewed by the Echo.  Holder was retweeted  a Poole post and that's it. No comments from him whatsoever, Darcy has said more about it!

[stevebrum]

14 minutes ago, ouch said:

Not interested in a UK return which is a shame as his 7 point odd average would have made him an attractive addition to most starting line ups come March. 

As previously mentioned he was interested in a UK return until his reassessed average stopped that happening.  He will either be an 8 or 9 anyway. 

[TesarRacing]

19 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

I do hope Chris Holder is pulling our leg with the picture of what looks like 2 busted wrists in A&E on his twitter page this morning......

If this guy has seriously injured himself then there should be some serious questions asked by Matt if its some kind of motorcycling accident when he is not even competition riding. If its true I do hope we have not lost one of out top riders for ??? months and then he has to get back to full fitness.

Cant see any other posts from him since he shared it with Crump and another (plus anyone who follows him).

Will also be somewhat galling that he has not posted to my knowledge one single comment about how pleased he is to be back at Poole (or any other positive comment about returning), yet if true he is more than happy to share some personal injury misfortune to anyone following him on twitter.

Anyway it may not even be him or it may be an old photo, but even so as it stands it doesn't look too clever and surely raises maybe some doubts on his availability for the season start.

Also if true I bet Matt Ford will be less than a happy bunny with the Poles also still dragging their feet on the 3 league rule thus slowing up the Sundtrom announcement (as well as poor James Shanes who is awaiting the outcome as its all linked).

Its what motorcyclists do! Valentino Rossi broke his leg riding motoX in the middle of his MotoGP championship last year when he was still in with a chance  of winning the title......

[Mattfordfan]

Chris will do a great job stop worrying Pirates fans. 

The crowd will give him good receptions every week. 

Middlo will make sure he is happy.

Kurtz and Grajczonek will have a lot of banter with Noddy. 

[SteveLyric2]

Terms agreed with Pawlicki after getting permission from Wolves - just the outstanding question of what average he may still be re-assessed on?!