SteveLyric2 Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 What Middlo actually said was that they thought Hans 7.75 average was too high to get any improvement! I tend to agree but only time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 12 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Shanes plus a rider up to 7.85. Making Chris Holder a second string. So Hampel plus Shanes, or Kolodziej plus shanes, or Madsen plus Shanes fits. And you think Hampel, Kolodziej or Madsen would do better than Hans? Why is Shanes not announced makes no sense at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Kurtz showing better form in Aus this morning................will he blow it like he can be prone to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Gavan said: And you think Hampel, Kolodziej or Madsen would do better than Hans? Why is Shanes not announced makes no sense at all Because he isn't a lock for a team place. If we get Sundstrom or a rider of that calibre then Shanes is in. If we can only get a 5.5 or a 6 point rider then Shanes wont be. Although its obviously the final 2 are Sundstrom and Shanes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, Matt Ford Fan said: Because he isn't a lock for a team place. If we get Sundstrom or a rider of that calibre then Shanes is in. If we can only get a 5.5 or a 6 point rider then Shanes wont be. Although its obviously the final 2 are Sundstrom and Shanes. I would imagine Klindt is in one of his choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, foreverblue said: I would imagine Klindt is in one of his choices. Defo Sundstrom and Shanes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Matt Ford Fan said: Because he isn't a lock for a team place. If we get Sundstrom or a rider of that calibre then Shanes is in. If we can only get a 5.5 or a 6 point rider then Shanes wont be. Although its obviously the final 2 are Sundstrom and Shanes. He should be a certainty for a place. Increased his average....entertained the crowd.........and a young brit......why should he not be signed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 But don't rule out Piotr Pawlicki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, Gavan said: He should be a certainty for a place. Increased his average....entertained the crowd.........and a young brit......why should he not be signed? He will be signed just waiting to get the top order done first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, Gavan said: He should be a certainty for a place. Increased his average....entertained the crowd.........and a young brit......why should he not be signed? Because you use close to all of the points available not some of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, Gavan said: Kurtz showing better form in Aus this morning................will he blow it like he can be prone to do. yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Excluded in the final for knocking Holder off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Gavan said: yes Yes. Something he has to eradicate but he is only 21. On the positives every completed ride unbeaten in both rounds its just the EF/FALL/EXCL that probably have stopped him being top of the leader board. Anyway its all good practice for 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 I bet young Holder is glad he is not in the same team this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, Gavan said: He should be a certainty for a place. Increased his average....entertained the crowd.........and a young brit......why should he not be signed? Think majority agree with you Gav. Problem Ford faces is at this later stage could he get another 7 plus quality rider if they cant get Sundstrom (as strongly rumoured) if the Poles don't lift the max 3 league rule. If they don't lift the rule then it may also exclude other 7 plus possibilities, or those who can be afforded without megabucks deals for salary/equip/travelling/mechanics etc. IF they don't lift the rule perhaps his thinking is that to compensate the loss of a 7 plus rider he may be partly forced in to 2 stronger lower av riders in the 5 plus area or he would face Shanes at 2.88 (or around that with the young Brit reduction) and maybe a 6 rider thus losing some available points available in team building. Also think of how KL may be in trouble if the POLES don't lift it as I am sure they are banking on getting NKI back and he would also be out if they don't. P.S: For those who don't realise why Sundstrom cant be signed yet is because he rides BOTH leagues in SWE as well as POL and has already signed for 2018. Meaning that as we speak he is on his 3 league max. I mention it as some contributors didn't seem aware assuming he was on just 2 leagues with SWE/POL. Nope its 3 hence the delay while the POLES continue to play the game of "We are the greatest league in the World and we will decide if we want to lift the rule when we want to". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Sundstrom rode in the Swedish Allsvenskan last year, I guess that counts as his third league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 I do hope Chris Holder is pulling our leg with the picture of what looks like 2 busted wrists in A&E on his twitter page this morning...... If this guy has seriously injured himself then there should be some serious questions asked by Matt if its some kind of motorcycling accident when he is not even competition riding. If its true I do hope we have not lost one of out top riders for ??? months and then he has to get back to full fitness. Cant see any other posts from him since he shared it with Crump and another (plus anyone who follows him). Will also be somewhat galling that he has not posted to my knowledge one single comment about how pleased he is to be back at Poole (or any other positive comment about returning), yet if true he is more than happy to share some personal injury misfortune to anyone following him on twitter. Anyway it may not even be him or it may be an old photo, but even so as it stands it doesn't look too clever and surely raises maybe some doubts on his availability for the season start. Also if true I bet Matt Ford will be less than a happy bunny with the Poles also still dragging their feet on the 3 league rule thus slowing up the Sundtrom announcement (as well as poor James Shanes who is awaiting the outcome as its all linked). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Col said: Sundstrom rode in the Swedish Allsvenskan last year, I guess that counts as his third league. Correct Sir - Hence the delay. He has already signed quite early for another ALLSV team for 2018 as well as the SWE Elite and with Gorzow in POL that's his 3 (as it stands). Let's hope the POLES do get it sorted sooner as its dragged on for too long already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Yes. Something he has to eradicate but he is only 21. On the positives every completed ride unbeaten in both rounds its just the EF/FALL/EXCL that probably have stopped him being top of the leader board. Anyway its all good practice for 2018. agreed great rider but as i said earlier is prone to the odd silly ride......often gets 3 wins and then a 2 and a 0 for example or gets himself excluded. Cut those out and could be top of the averages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Gavan said: agreed great rider but as i said earlier is prone to the odd silly ride......often gets 3 wins and then a 2 and a 0 for example or gets himself excluded. Cut those out and could be top of the averages Agreed Gav. Its something I also noticed with him last year. Problem we have with Brady is too many still make comparisons with Darcy Ward which of course the sensible amongst us know he is not. But the better he performs the comparisons with many die hard Poole fans is the more he is compared which I think is unfair being that 2017 was only his second in the Prem. But suppose when you have had Holder who WAS a W/C and was so good for so long and also Darcy being the phenomenon he was, there will always be the comparisons and pressure when riding for the same team so closely behind those 2 legends. Also having done so much in respect of his AV in such a short period. I really do hope that others like Woryna do step up to back him up as also maybe Holder and if signed Sundstrom and even Josh G as its unfair for him to be thrust in the deep end so young. But suppose if you have got the talent you ultimately have to live up to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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