Catalan Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Re C.Holder, Although there is no issue over finance maybe Matt wants it linked to performance rather than a 'guaranteed' amount per meeting?! Not unreasonable after his 2017 season all over Europe I reckon?! Thought Matt didn't like guarantees, rather you earned your money. I've always believed Chris is very easy to deal with on the finance front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Re C.Holder, Although there is no issue over finance maybe Matt wants it linked to performance rather than a 'guaranteed' amount per meeting?! Not unreasonable after his 2017 season all over Europe I reckon?! To be fair, he said "It’s not money, no one should read that into it. It’s nothing to do with finances.", and what you're suggesting is very much to do with finance, so I cannot imagine it is that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 41 minutes ago, BurntFaceMan said: To be fair, he said "It’s not money, no one should read that into it. It’s nothing to do with finances.", and what you're suggesting is very much to do with finance, so I cannot imagine it is that. Maybe it's due to track conditions at Wimborne Rd. He was not happy about track conditions when he last rode for Poole & perhaps he wants confirmation that his worries re track are dealt with. The reason he fell out with Chapman was over track conditions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 17 minutes ago, DunRobin said: Maybe it's due to track conditions at Wimborne Rd. He was not happy about track conditions when he last rode for Poole & perhaps he wants confirmation that his worries re track are dealt with. The reason he fell out with Chapman was over track conditions. Wouldn't surprise me. Even Jack said the track was bad in Speedway Star this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Wouldn't surprise me. Even Jack said the track was bad in Speedway Star this week. Jack will say anything negative at the moment as his nose has been put well and truly out of joint since he was told he was not going to line up for Poole in 2018. As for CH, I spoke to him the week after the Kings Lynn Poole meeting and he said although the Poole track is not smooth, it is consistent, you know it is safe and can turn a bike and race on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 46 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Jack will say anything negative at the moment as his nose has been put well and truly out of joint since he was told he was not going to line up for Poole in 2018. As for CH, I spoke to him the week after the Kings Lynn Poole meeting and he said although the Poole track is not smooth, it is consistent, you know it is safe and can turn a bike and race on it. Seems though that he doesn't wanted to race on it every week - instead choosing one of the best race tracks in the county. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Najjer said: Seems though that he doesn't wanted to race on it every week - instead choosing one of the best race tracks in the county. If Jack was at Poole he would be.... Nothing to do with the track. If Jack was at BV he'd want to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 There are none so blind as those who cannot see 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 I think it’s all down to the track especially with a whinger like Holder. There is no way he’d ride that every week. Not surprised KK and Hans aren’t returning along with others. This will be the issue with the poles dispite their high salaries, if they think the home circuit will jeopardise their Polish pay then expect them out of trouble at the back. Ford needs to splash out on the racetrack instead of a potentially high scoring reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 36 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: If Jack was at Poole he would be.... Nothing to do with the track. If Jack was at BV he'd want to be there. Looking forward to Good Friday already! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Najjer said: Looking forward to Good Friday already! Alright for some! I can never go as I work Friday morning. Can you get Somerset to do the morning meeting!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, ouch said: I think it’s all down to the track especially with a whinger like Holder. There is no way he’d ride that every week. Not surprised KK and Hans aren’t returning along with others. This will be the issue with the poles dispite their high salaries, if they think the home circuit will jeopardise their Polish pay then expect them out of trouble at the back. Ford needs to splash out on the racetrack instead of a potentially high scoring reserve. Holder was at Poole for nearly ten years (??? ) so i don't think the track is the main reason. Edited December 23, 2017 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 The track has deteriorated over the last ten years to get to its current low state. Whinging tends to increase the older they get. These two factors plus the rumoured performance related pay instead of the usual big bucks pay out means it’s a no go for several old timers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Jack will say anything negative at the moment as his nose has been put well and truly out of joint since he was told he was not going to line up for Poole in 2018. As for CH, I spoke to him the week after the Kings Lynn Poole meeting and he said although the Poole track is not smooth, it is consistent, you know it is safe and can turn a bike and race on it. Jack is only echoing what others have said about the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 The track is a joke I was under the impression that it was going to be ripped up and sorted out as soon as the season was over looks like fk all is happening on that front after all the criticism its had and still no work done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Work was done on it last season where it was smoothed out. Or have you forgotten? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Easier to keep criticising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 29 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Work was done on it last season where it was smoothed out. Or have you forgotten? Oh i remember that, everyone started beating us!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 39 minutes ago, Agrotron said: The track is a joke I was under the impression that it was going to be ripped up and sorted out as soon as the season was over looks like fk all is happening on that front after all the criticism its had and still no work done! I thought there is supposed be some redevelopment around the track in the next few years and that the track might have to close for a year whilst that happens??!! If that is the case then why bother.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 33 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Work was done on it last season where it was smoothed out. Or have you forgotten? Shown up on BT live as hardly having touched it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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