dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 hour ago, lisa-colette said: It's Holder who won't have the choice! It could stop him riding for anyone. Though I wouldn't want any rider at Poole if they don't want to be there. I very much doubt Poole could stop Holder going elsewhere in the end. Agree with you there is no point having a rider in any team that doesnt want to be there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I very much doubt Poole could stop Holder going elsewhere in the end. Agree with you there is no point having a rider in any team that doesnt want to be there. Okay so say Chris wants to be at Somerset with Jack then, Somerset want him on loan but Matt won't agree with that. What happens then? Chris has to go to Bspa for help? And who is the chairman again? Oh yeah, Buster Chapman Chris' bff!! Love to be in the room when that happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 minute ago, lisa-colette said: Okay so say Chris wants to be at Somerset with Jack then, Somerset want him on loan but Matt won't agree with that. What happens then? Chris has to go to Bspa for help? And who is the chairman again? Oh yeah, Buster Chapman Chris' bff!! Love to be in the room when that happens! The precedent was shown in the Miedzinski deal where he was wanted by his parent club but Poole signed him on loan when Swindon wanted a transfer. If anything different happens then Chris is getting stitched up. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 minute ago, lisa-colette said: Okay so say Chris wants to be at Somerset with Jack then, Somerset want him on loan but Matt won't agree with that. What happens then? Chris has to go to Bspa for help? And who is the chairman again? Oh yeah, Buster Chapman Chris' bff!! Love to be in the room when that happens! Perhaps he would be the first rider to bypass the BSPA and go to the courts... He has little to lose now. Has made his money and doesnt need the UK £ but would have a point of principle to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 If Chris really doesn’t want to ride for Poole I would say. Fine I’ll take Lambert as a good back up. And when Kurtz and Woryna show they are better than Lambert then he will learn how much he has to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, poolebolton said: If Chris really doesn’t want to ride for Poole I would say. Fine I’ll take Lambert as a good back up. And when Kurtz and Woryna show they are better than Lambert then he will learn how much he has to improve. Do you really think Woryna is better than Lambert ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 Holder doesn't want to ride for poole..and won't be riding for poole....he will be at somerset with his brother...as was mentioned a couple of month's ago...but for some reason poole fans don't seem to get that not everyone wants to ride for poole. Having said that.....they are probably nearly all the same bloke anyway. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1234 Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 21 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Holder doesn't want to ride for poole..and won't be riding for poole....he will be at somerset with his brother...as was mentioned a couple of month's ago...but for some reason poole fans don't seem to get that not everyone wants to ride for poole. Having said that.....they are probably nearly all the same bloke anyway. Is this true or just another rumour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunce Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 hour ago, poolebolton said: If Chris really doesn’t want to ride for Poole I would say. Fine I’ll take Lambert as a good back up. And when Kurtz and Woryna show they are better than Lambert then he will learn how much he has to improve. It looks as if you may not have the chance to even consider Lambert, as the latest news is he "may" be opting out of the UK for 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 hour ago, WestGorton1884 said: Do you really think Woryna is better than Lambert ? I do, and by quite a considerable margin on the world stage. One rides top flight Poland and is in the top 20. The other rides two divisions lower in Poland. Quite a gulf in who they face evey meeting. Having said that, Lambert knows his way around British tracks better than Woryna so I expect him to have a higher average in the UK. If he can be arsed to ride here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 Lambert is another over rated Brit with a huge ego and shocking attitude problem. Another Danny King standard wise, but at least King is a much more down to earth person compared to Lambert 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 8 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: I do, and by quite a considerable margin on the world stage. One rides top flight Poland and is in the top 20. The other rides two divisions lower in Poland. Quite a gulf in who they face evey meeting. Having said that, Lambert knows his way around British tracks better than Woryna so I expect him to have a higher average in the UK. If he can be arsed to ride here. So British speedway as sunk that low that a 3rd string Pole ( no disrespect to KW ) Is regarded higer than one of our supposed top riders ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) If Chris does not want to ride for Poole then that's fine, I don't want a rider who isn't 110% committed to riding for the Pirates. There is plenty more riders who we could use if not, although Chris is sat on bargain average. The Poole fans want him back but why go for a rider who wants to ride elsewhere. Edited December 17, 2017 by Pirates Of Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Easy to say that Woryna is a 'considerable' margin ahead of Lambert but the only measure you can really use is the world under 21 standings which put Woryna slightly ahead with a six point margin. Until they both compete in the same league across a whole season that's the only barometer really which equates to two points per round. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Easy to say that Woryna is a 'considerable' margin ahead of Lambert but the only measure you can really use is the world under 21 standings which put Woryna slightly ahead with a six point margin. Until they both compete in the same league across a whole season that's the only barometer really which equates to two points per round. Looks unlikely to happen at the moment. Woryna is streets ahead of Lambert in Poland, and that is the true barometer imo. If it came down to ego's Lambert would win hands down... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, blupanther said: Looks unlikely to happen at the moment. Woryna is streets ahead of Lambert in Poland, and that is the true barometer imo. If it came down to ego's Lambert would win hands down... Woryna in Poland is to be expected, over here is a different kettle of fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Easy to say that Woryna is a 'considerable' margin ahead of Lambert but the only measure you can really use is the world under 21 standings which put Woryna slightly ahead with a six point margin. Until they both compete in the same league across a whole season that's the only barometer really which equates to two points per round. The difference in Poland is significant. One rides for thd equivalent of Tottenham or Liverpool while the other rides for Wigan or Shrewsbury. Woryna, along with Drabik, is about to smash his way onto the Polish national team and no more than a couple of seasons from being in the GP series. I am not saying this because he has signed for Poole. I follow Polish speedway and have watched his progression in the sport and its been impressive. Lambert is a good rider but he was pathetic for TeamGB in the SWC. He didn't do much last season for Lynn other than confront a fan in the crowd who had just about had enough and made his thoughts vocal. Now he says he isn't riding in the UK next season. Buster deciding by the look of it to get rid. Chalk and cheese I am afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, hyderd said: Woryna in Poland is to be expected, over here is a different kettle of fish Irrelevant though as Lambert looks likely to turn his back on Britain. The best league in the world is the real test, and Lambert is not even in it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Woryna, along with Drabik, is about to smash his way onto the Polish national team and no more than a couple of seasons from being in the GP series. I am not saying this because he has signed for Poole. I follow Polish speedway and have watched his progression in the sport and its been impressive. And yet a reassessment of his 4.65 average is not justified in your eyes..... 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Those are the rules. Always have been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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