Mattfordfan Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 18 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Not sure if you are just trying to hide your bitter disappointment about Poole signing these two great riders, or you dont have a clue who they are. Kacper Woryna already has a higher average in the Polish top flight than both Pawlickis, Drabik, Holder, Zagar, Lindgren, Buckowski, KK, Fricke, Milik, Zengota, Kildemand, Thorsell and a host of other top names. In the toughest league in the world. Sure he wont probably score as well as those names over here next season but thats not his job. He is a reserve! To say he is the same as Huckenbeck is frankly embarrassing on your behalf. You clearly don’t have a clue who he is and didn’t watch the Polish league every Sunday to see his ability first hand. As for Spanner, a rider who has improved year on year, to the stage he is now number one in Polish league 1. Solid rider, good gater and very good equipment. We can already smell the jealousy cant we Steve?. Szczepaniak at reserve is a poor signing hahaha yeah right. Woryna will do a Musielak. Musielak was rubbish first time round and then he improved as a rider and came back to Britain and look at what he done last season. Woryna will do the exact same thing. Great team. C. Holder is a lock now. Nobody is going to pay 25k for him. 2 to go and Andersen/Shanes just about fits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 30 minutes ago, DC2 said: Yes, everyone knows, and David admits, that his equipment was below par in the play offs, but the point is, he’s committted to Swindon and British speedway, it’s his first choice league with his best equipment, not a part-time filler, like it is for Poole’s new Poles. You’d have thought Matt would have learnt, especially with KK this year, but he hasn’t. They’ll show some promise to start, then fall away when Poland kicks in. I expect Woryna will be outscoring Musielak next season and he will be as committed as Musielak has been, every pole isn't like KK thankfully. Don't they always blame the equipment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Starman2006 said: Dont worry Brum, we will be fine. 1 hour ago, Starman2006 said: Dont let Brum bother you mate. What on earth on you blithering on about? Why are you trolling my name when I'm not even in the conversation. Mind numbing. Edit... I wonder when they are going to confirm the averages for those returning to the UK for 2018?? Strange that there is no confirmation from the BSPA Edited December 11, 2017 by stevebrum added information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) Whys it strange Brum ? Matt does not go out of his way to cheat, if thats what out are incinuating. Edited December 11, 2017 by Starman2006 Stevebtums post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 38 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Haha except Bellego got beat by both of them in the play offs! Except Bellego now has a winners medal... 36 minutes ago, foreverblue said: He thinks he is being funny, if we had signed Zmarzlik and Dudek he would say they be no good over here! Looking at those signings for the Poundstretcher Poole Pirates (PPP), its unlikely that you could afford a set of tyres for either of those much vaunted riders. Vaculik, a GP rider of some standing, had a look at what you were offering and decided that he might get a few more sheckels at Leicester, at team that has propped the league up for the last couple of seasons. That's a tad embarrassing for a 'big club' such as yourselves. This time last year when certain riders were announced e.g. Klindt the Poole fans were all excited as they believed they signed last seasons best 'ringer', which didn't work out so well if I remember correctly. I think that the major issue will be the mental scarring from all those home defeats at the Four Point Arena. Its everyone's favourite away track now and those Poles will really have to be on the gas early, if its not to be another barren season. I hope not. The Premier League needs a strong PPP side... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, theblueboy said: Except Bellego now has a winners medal... Looking at those signings for the Poundstretcher Poole Pirates (PPP), its unlikely that you could afford a set of tyres for either of those much vaunted riders. Vaculik, a GP rider of some standing, had a look at what you were offering and decided that he might get a few more sheckels at Leicester, at team that has propped the league up for the last couple of seasons. That's a tad embarrassing for a 'big club' such as yourselves. This time last year when certain riders were announced e.g. Klindt the Poole fans were all excited as they believed they signed last seasons best 'ringer', which didn't work out so well if I remember correctly. I think that the major issue will be the mental scarring from all those home defeats at the Four Point Arena. Its everyone's favourite away track now and those Poles will really have to be on the gas early, if its not to be another barren season. I hope not. The Premier League needs a strong PPP side... yes he got lucky as Swindon won in spite of him. Hope he continues his play off form next season for the Recycled Robins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, theblueboy said: Except Bellego now has a winners medal... Looking at those signings for the Poundstretcher Poole Pirates (PPP), its unlikely that you could afford a set of tyres for either of those much vaunted riders. Vaculik, a GP rider of some standing, had a look at what you were offering and decided that he might get a few more sheckels at Leicester, at team that has propped the league up for the last couple of seasons. That's a tad embarrassing for a 'big club' such as yourselves. This time last year when certain riders were announced e.g. Klindt the Poole fans were all excited as they believed they signed last seasons best 'ringer', which didn't work out so well if I remember correctly. I think that the major issue will be the mental scarring from all those home defeats at the Four Point Arena. Its everyone's favourite away track now and those Poles will really have to be on the gas early, if its not to be another barren season. I hope not. The Premier League needs a strong PPP side... Yeh the Championship needs to be stonger. But How you do that if we dont have enough quality riders to go round the premier league. Edited December 12, 2017 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 I think this a good move. Yes its a risk they might not play out but Ford has done his homework and thinks they can fit in. Rynbik riders together which is always is an advantage because they can travel across together. Woryna is a different rider to last time he beat every single GP rider in a heat last year so he is doing something right. Szczepaniak= Must be doing something right to be a top rider in League 1 and he can gate. Think ford said a sensible thing that the tracks now are bigger in the UK with Somerset and the Leicester works. I wonder just before the stream died(sound went bad) he said he was talking to an old rider who sent him a text wonder who that was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 6 hours ago, Always a RACER said: That would be a very decent team 6 hours ago, Always a RACER said: That would be a very decent team 6 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Pooles final team, which would fit, could be: 1. Brady Kurtz 2. Spanneriak 3. Josh Graczonek 4. Hans Andersen 5. Chris Holder 6. Kacper Woryna 7. James Shanes. just under the points limit. If that side is assembled then Poole will be knocking on the door in 2018 a good blend of youth and experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) I suspect Szczepeniak and Woryna to average around 6. Both will do well at home but poorly away. Also where are Poole getting Szczepeniak 4.54 average from? His last Coventry average was 4.93, did he ride elsewhere afterwards? Edited December 12, 2017 by Woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Pooles final team, which would fit, could be: 1. Brady Kurtz 2. Spanneriak 3. Josh Graczonek 4. Hans Andersen 5. Chris Holder 6. Kacper Woryna 7. James Shanes. just under the points limit. Why do you keep putting Woryna at reserve when your team's press release clearly states that Woryna has a higher average than the other Pole? BTW If that is the team, it looks better than the gash from 2017. Edited December 12, 2017 by Steve0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 I think the signing of Mateusz Szczepaniak and Kacper Woryna are tremendous acquisitions. Not sure of the averages they will acquire, but for exciting Speedway they are both quality riders capable of beating the very best.. No doubt every other club will be envious of Poole . I wish they were riding for the Stars, that for sure.,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Steve0 said: Why do you keep putting Woryna at reserve when your team's press release clearly states that Woryna has a higher average than the other Pole? BTW If that is the team, it looks better than the gash from 2017. Spanner is 4.93. The Poole website is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, g13webb said: I think the signing of Mateusz Szczepaniak and Kacper Woryna are tremendous acquisitions. Not sure of the averages they will acquire, but for exciting Speedway they are both quality riders capable of beating the very best.. No doubt every other club will be envious of Poole . I wish they were riding for the Stars, that for sure.,, Glad you can see them for what they are. So far we have been swamped by posters who have called the two signings, 'meh', uninspiring, Poundland Poole Pirates, same standard as Huckenbeck, rubbish. I would like to know of a better reserve in the Premier League next year than Woryna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 19 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Glad you can see them for what they are. So far we have been swamped by posters who have called the two signings, 'meh', uninspiring, Poundland Poole Pirates, same standard as Huckenbeck, rubbish. I would like to know of a better reserve in the Premier League next year than Woryna. Daniel Bewley ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Hardly signings that will set the world alight but with the potential to improve. Its alright saying that their form in Poland is strong but very often that form doesnt translate across. Love seeing the usual Poole suspects going on and on about how wonderful their team looks. 12 months ago.........................KK was back at his spiritual home there wasnt going to be a better number one in the league..glad Chris Holder was gone as KK was far better. Nicolai Klindt was going to be the best reserve in the league, someone on a false average who was only going to score bucket loads of points. Kurtz and Jack Holder would be the new turbo twins smashing in points all over the place..........Kyle Newman 'Mr Poole' lovead and adored by everyone at the club was going to kick on and realise his potential................you ended up with Lahti, Starke and Kennett Now we are being told how amazing these 2 young Poles will be...........................hope it doesnt go the same as last year 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Hell of a lot of potential for improvement in the 2 Poles, will be interesting if they can fulfil it next year. They certainly look quick on the continent. Likely to be the key men for Poole next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 10 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Pooles final team, which would fit, could be: 1. Brady Kurtz 2. Spanneriak 3. Josh Graczonek 4. Hans Andersen 5. Chris Holder 6. Kacper Woryna 7. James Shanes. just under the points limit. That would be a very useful outfit and very exciting for the Pirates supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Glad you can see them for what they are. So far we have been swamped by posters who have called the two signings, 'meh', uninspiring, Poundland Poole Pirates, same standard as Huckenbeck, rubbish. I would like to know of a better reserve in the Premier League next year than Woryna. They have a lot to prove thats for sure. They were both pretty ordinary when last over here so nothing suggests they will become world beaters. The potential is there but its still a bit risky. Their could easily be a better reserve then Woryna......do you honestly think he will have his best equipment over here? He will also need time to get dialled in for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Hans wont be back from what has been said. We have 17.89 left Holder is done and dusted. So about 10.7 ish left for the last 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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