Agrotron Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 If holder doesn't return, better to slap a price tag on both their heads and cash in. I doubt holder senior has many more years left racing! I'd sell both them on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 If neither want to ride for Poole then yes I would sell them on and bring riders in who do want to be at Poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 I'd sell both them on so would I actually to choice holder over Hans is not for me either although unfortunately don't think Hans will be back anyway ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Holders days are numbered people can see through his bs. What as a GP rider? He can still earn a very good living in the UK and be a top rider for any club of his choice. I'm sure since Wards serious injuries it has affected some riders more than others,Chris especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 If neither want to ride for Poole then yes I would sell them on and bring riders in who do want to be at Poole.Why would any club risk a purchase though... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 What as a GP rider? He can still earn a very good living in the UK and be a top rider for any club of his choice. I'm sure since Wards serious injuries it has affected some riders more than others,Chris especially. whilst I get what you mean re Chris and Darcy, I would have to question then whether continuing to ride is the right thing for Chris, just my opinion you understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Agree with the above about selling both Holder's if Chris doesn't ride for us in 2018. Dont accept loan fees. Permanent transfers only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Agree with the above about selling both Holder's if Chris doesn't ride for us in 2018. Dont accept loan fees. Permanent transfers only. that's if anyone wants to take the chance on a job lot anyway if Chris stays at Poole I'm sure he will end up with the no I race jacket jmo of course 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Using 7.34 on Josh, no Holder or Newman on bargain averages and Woryna reassessed on 6 or more - blimey, Poole will struggle next season. Could be the worst Pirates team since 2009 ..... err....... or last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Well Woryna is on 4.65 as now confirmed in the echo last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) Chris Holder's issues in 2017 had little to do with Darcy's situation - as bad as he and many others were affected initially!! They were to do with other off track stuff and unexpectedly (in his head anyway) not riding at Poole, which was also very little to do with inflated averages!! Several posters on here seem to be of the opinion that if its CH that MF has hit ' a stumbling block' with then it must be over money?! I doubt that very much, although that might be the issue in negotiations with another rider!! Edited December 7, 2017 by Skidder1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Using 7.34 on Josh, no Holder or Newman on bargain averages and Woryna reassessed on 6 or more - blimey, Poole will struggle next season. Could be the worst Pirates team since 2009 ..... err....... or last year. You seem to be forgetting we made the play offs with a useless number one and then had to rely on Kennett, Lahti and a poor Jack Holder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Using 7.34 on Josh, no Holder or Newman on bargain averages and Woryna reassessed on 6 or more - blimey, Poole will struggle next season. Could be the worst Pirates team since 2009 ..... err....... or last year. Josh is a good signing. Holder isn't committed to British Speedway anyway. Only rides over here because he has to. We are better off without Newman. Injury after injury for someone who cant cut it in the 1-5. He's a reserve and nothing more and we don't need a No.6 because we have got Woryna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Josh is a good signing. Holder isn't committed to British Speedway anyway. Only rides over here because he has to. We are better off without Newman. Injury after injury for someone who cant cut it in the 1-5. He's a reserve and nothing more and we don't need a No.6 because we have got Woryna. if you were a commited pirate supporter you would not be saying that about kyle which obviously your not !!!! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) if you were a commited pirate supporter you would not be saying that about kyle which obviously your not !!!! Rubbish. Just telling you the truth not my fault if you don't like it. Kyle has never improved as a rider. You look at other riders who have kicked on from when the FTR system was brought in. Kerr, S. Worrall, Bates, Ellis, Rose to name a few whilst Newman hasn't and he hasn't done anything in the 2nd tier either always been lingering around the 6.0 - 6.5 average mark. Edited December 7, 2017 by Matt Ford Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Rubbish. Just telling you the truth not my fault if you don't like it. Kyle has never improved as a rider. You look at other riders who have kicked on from when the FTR system was brought in. Kerr, S. Worrall, Bates, Ellis, Rose to name a few whilst Newman hasn't and he hasn't done anything in the 2nd tier either always been lingering around the 6.0 - 6.5 average mark. You are so far off being correct it’s untrue. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin wood Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Poole can't go wrong.If they keep Holder its a good move and if he goes its because he's no good lol! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Agree with the above about selling both Holder's if Chris doesn't ride for us in 2018. Dont accept loan fees. Permanent transfers only. Bit like Miedzinski then .......NOT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) You are so far off being correct it’s untrue. What has Newman done then? Edited December 7, 2017 by Matt Ford Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Well if you had watched him at Poole you would know. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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