Poole 2018

[tellboy]

1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said:

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/16336753.scott-nicholls-and-chris-harris-contact-pirates-boss-ford-over-team-places/?ref=nuo

I would say they have made themselves available to every club,as they are now unemployed in the top league in the UK.

[Starman2006]

1 hour ago, tellboy said:

I would say they have made themselves available to every club,as they are now unemployed in the top league in the UK.

Of course they have, this is old news mate.. But on the same token both Scott or Bomber would be happy to go to Poole.

[tellboy]

17 minutes ago, Starman2006 said:

Of course they have, this is old news mate.. But on the same token both Scott or Bomber would be happy to go to Poole.

I'm sure they would both be happy to go anywhere to earn money.

[lewy]

They would be happy to join any team in the premier league EVEN Poole as 5hey don't have a team in it and they want to earn a living 

[ouch]

Nice of them to return his call even if it did take a week or two. Lol

[STEVEHOLS54]

Poor Josh G has found his POL experience a baptism of fire.

Having become a POL citizen he rode the weekend in POL Champ semi final where he was in  effect totally outclassed by the Poles and scraped a couple of points from 5 rides. In his Pol Nice 1 matches he sits a lowly 42nd out of 55 in points av.

Bearing in mind he isn't even riding in POL EXL it looks to me like a real struggle. With all his constant commuting costs etc I hope he isnt losing out big time compared to what he would have been earning with regular rides in Champ plus no doubt he used to get plenty of guest bkgs. If he doesnt pick up I doubt in any POL Nice side will be interested next season let alone POL EXL.

[foreverblue]

28 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

Poor Josh G has found his POL experience a baptism of fire.

Having become a POL citizen he rode the weekend in POL Champ semi final where he was in  effect totally outclassed by the Poles and scraped a couple of points from 5 rides. In his Pol Nice 1 matches he sits a lowly 42nd out of 55 in points av.

Bearing in mind he isn't even riding in POL EXL it looks to me like a real struggle. With all his constant commuting costs etc I hope he isnt losing out big time compared to what he would have been earning with regular rides in Champ plus no doubt he used to get plenty of guest bkgs. If he doesnt pick up I doubt in any POL Nice side will be interested next season let alone POL EXL.

Well I thought he rode better in his last meeting for us but if he doesn't maintain a reasonable level of form he won't in the Poole team either.

[Orbiter]

Think Poole would be mad not to make a move for Nicholls his experience and leadership could be just what they need.

[STEVEHOLS54]

2 hours ago, Orbiter said:

Think Poole would be mad not to make a move for Nicholls his experience and leadership could be just what they need.

just calculated and according to current GSA av Poole have a team total of 41.75 and Josh G has a GSA of 6.12 thanks to a continually falling 20 match rolling av due to his poor form overall this season which has dragged his total 20 match GSA down.

Nicholls based on his current GSA for Rye is on 7.35. Too high, as if Ford redeclared his team JG 6.12 plus 0.75 to play with to keep within the 42.5 limit only gives 6.87 to play with for another rider.

However interestingly Harris current GSA is 6.86 which JUST fits. Only way Nicholls would get in is if they cancelled the riders GSA's as results void and they converted their current Champ GSA's at 1.3 meaning they switch as Harris would be on 6.25 but Nicholls would be 6.07 so could be a straight replacement. Harris would then need to go in on a team redeclaration.

Of course the $64,000 question which none of us know the answer to is WHAT GSA would each rider now be given in the circumstances.

I think on their current Rye GSA's I cannot see them getting into any team (other than Harris into maybe Poole) as most teams are well above 42.5 and others either the riders they could replace through injury or out of form either have av below or the team total wont allow redeclaration within the 42.5 point limit.

Wonder if the SCB will do anything to give both at least a chance to get signed as innocent victims of the situation. We will no doubt find out this month as 23rd July is cut off date for riders GSA's for August plus no doubt team's last last signings have to be made I assume by end July ??

Edited July 9, 2018 by STEVEHOLS54
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[SteveLyric2]

So with Wolves Peter Adams suggesting the BSPA are considering adjusting not only the Rye House rider averages (despite Summers already moving to Somerset on his July average), but also looking at adjusting all teams averages according to their scores v Rye.  Good luck with that - if it happens??!

[STEVEHOLS54]

27 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

So with Wolves Peter Adams suggesting the BSPA are considering adjusting not only the Rye House rider averages (despite Summers already moving to Somerset on his July average), but also looking at adjusting all teams averages according to their scores v Rye.  Good luck with that - if it happens??!

Well if I were Poole I would go for that. See Pooles scores over the 2 matches.

Poole: 
Stefan Nielsen 8+2 (5 rides), Kacper Woryna 8 (5), Richie Worrall 7+3 (5), Linus Sundstrom 6+2 (4), Brady Kurtz 6 (4), Mateusz Szczepaniek 6 (4), Josh Grajczonek 1 (3).

Poole:
Stefan Nielsen 11+2, Linus Sundstrom 9+2, Josh Grajczonek 8+2, Brady Kurtz 7, Mateusz Szczepaniak 6+3, Kacper Woryna 6+1, Richie Worrall R/R.

Considering BP don't count and Nielsen out injured they could work to Pooles advantage in lowering some riders GSA's or if the team were looking at a team redeclaration ??

Must admit still not convinced on the team. We got lucky last night that Klindt did well on a track that used to be his home and he has always ridden it well (even if a bit of reshaping). Others it was the same old same old and again Sundstrom didnt impress me. Maybe Woryna still carrying n injury from Sunday. Still think we need one more change and be interesting to see depending on if SCB remove the above points and depending upon what Harris & Nicholls get redeclared at if the SCB are looking at their av. Can't see either getting a team if they don't. If they go back to their starting av for the season then imo they definitely wont get a team on 7.48 & 7.63 SN/CH.

 

[STEVEHOLS54]

I think the Speedway Forum itself shows the state of our sport.

Wolves v Somerset - Only 14 replies and 735 views since it was put up 

Belle Vue v Swindon - Only 20  replies from 1366 views since it was started Sunday

Then we have:

Leicester v Poole - 201 replies from 8867 views since started Friday.

In a way I think the Forum kind of mirror images that lack of real interest. Poole has its fair share of haters and wind up merchants but even so, whether it be Poole 2018 or individual matches the contributions and views are way ahead of the others. 

That's not a gloat at others but to show the general lack on people interested in contributing to the sport in general.

[A ORLOV]

11 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

I think the Speedway Forum itself shows the state of our sport.

Wolves v Somerset - Only 14 replies and 735 views since it was put up 

Belle Vue v Swindon - Only 20  replies from 1366 views since it was started Sunday

Then we have:

Leicester v Poole - 201 replies from 8867 views since started Friday.

In a way I think the Forum kind of mirror images that lack of real interest. Poole has its fair share of haters and wind up merchants but even so, whether it be Poole 2018 or individual matches the contributions and views are way ahead of the others. 

That's not a gloat at others but to show the general lack on people interested in contributing to the sport in general.

The reason for the lack of posts on the BV Swindon thread is that it has been taken over by a troll from Reading and while it posts many others will not.

[ouch]

Tv matches always have more hits. Poole threads would have the normal amount of posts if you removed the

“you’re a knob”

“its a fact”

” no you’re a knob”

insults and wind ups by the usual Poole posters. 

 

 

I fear that any plan to save British speedway will be these fair weather “win at all costs” fans disappear from Wimborne Rd. 

While us speedway fans are happy to see four lads tearing round, that won’t cut the mustard for this lot and they will be back to their football, bowls, hockey or whatever. 

Feel for the fans on those forums when they end up back there. 

[B.V 72]

2 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

I think the Speedway Forum itself shows the state of our sport.

Wolves v Somerset - Only 14 replies and 735 views since it was put up 

Belle Vue v Swindon - Only 20  replies from 1366 views since it was started Sunday

Then we have:

Leicester v Poole - 201 replies from 8867 views since started Friday.

In a way I think the Forum kind of mirror images that lack of real interest. Poole has its fair share of haters and wind up merchants but even so, whether it be Poole 2018 or individual matches the contributions and views are way ahead of the others. 

That's not a gloat at others but to show the general lack on people interested in contributing to the sport in general.

I think the Poole thread is a good eg of what the BSF has become these days and that in my opinion is why a lots of posters have moved on or only post every now and again.Speedway on a lot of threads now seems to be on the back burner and replaced i am sad to say with personal digs/comments and B/S etc.For the guilty parties i am ready for a few to be thrown my way.

[foreverblue]

2 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

I think the Speedway Forum itself shows the state of our sport.

Wolves v Somerset - Only 14 replies and 735 views since it was put up 

Belle Vue v Swindon - Only 20  replies from 1366 views since it was started Sunday

Then we have:

Leicester v Poole - 201 replies from 8867 views since started Friday.

In a way I think the Forum kind of mirror images that lack of real interest. Poole has its fair share of haters and wind up merchants but even so, whether it be Poole 2018 or individual matches the contributions and views are way ahead of the others. 

That's not a gloat at others but to show the general lack on people interested in contributing to the sport in general.

Obviously the fact Poole are hated by some isn't altogether a bad thing and generates more interest in their meetings because some want to see them lose so much.

[DC2]

3 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

I think the Speedway Forum itself shows the state of our sport.

Wolves v Somerset - Only 14 replies and 735 views since it was put up 

Belle Vue v Swindon - Only 20  replies from 1366 views since it was started Sunday

Then we have:

Leicester v Poole - 201 replies from 8867 views since started Friday.

In a way I think the Forum kind of mirror images that lack of real interest. Poole has its fair share of haters and wind up merchants but even so, whether it be Poole 2018 or individual matches the contributions and views are way ahead of the others. 

That's not a gloat at others but to show the general lack on people interested in contributing to the sport in general.

 

Spot on. To be fair, it’s no fun gloating at Poole anymore. It’s like getting a bargain from Oxfam; it just doesn’t seem right to benefit from the unfortunate.

[STEVEHOLS54]

45 minutes ago, DC2 said:

 

Spot on. To be fair, it’s no fun gloating at Poole anymore. It’s like getting a bargain from Oxfam; it just doesn’t seem right to benefit from the unfortunate.

Should have expected that from you DC . But nothing wrong with friendly banter as none of us want it to be too serious on here.

Some of the comments are partly true though. There seem plenty who only use the forum for the sake of having a go or being rude with snide comments.

To be honest since I joined nearly 2 years ago I am becoming disillusioned with the Forum in general. I made the mistake of still thinking there was sensible debate to be had and an exchange of views on the team where we can take the sport forward to help it survive. It seems the majority don't see to give a toss and certainly don't want to engage in sensible discussion. Yet they are only to willing to indulge and keep indulging in petty snipes and insults as if they have nothing better to fill their day. Many of whom obviously retired with nothing to contribute. Apologies in advance to the minority who do engage in sensible discussion, especially Poole which is my main Speedway interest.

An example last week where I did an in depth post on Poole 2018 about MY views on a way forward. From memory - Not one like or anything as a dislike. In fact I can't remember one view as to a constructive alternative to a way forward other than I think one poster rolled out the old chestnut of not enough riders. Believe me with 5 main riders and say 2 N/L riders per team there probably would be or even if we went with 6 man teams incl using N/L riders.

Anyway think I will keep my views on the future of the sport to myself in future and let's just see which direction (if any) the sport takes.

[Starman2006]

2 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

Should have expected that from you DC . But nothing wrong with friendly banter as none of us want it to be too serious on here.

Some of the comments are partly true though. There seem plenty who only use the forum for the sake of having a go or being rude with snide comments.

To be honest since I joined nearly 2 years ago I am becoming disillusioned with the Forum in general. I made the mistake of still thinking there was sensible debate to be had and an exchange of views on the team where we can take the sport forward to help it survive. It seems the majority don't see to give a toss and certainly don't want to engage in sensible discussion. Yet they are only to willing to indulge and keep indulging in petty snipes and insults as if they have nothing better to fill their day. Many of whom obviously retired with nothing to contribute. Apologies in advance to the minority who do engage in sensible discussion, especially Poole which is my main Speedway interest.

An example last week where I did an in depth post on Poole 2018 about MY views on a way forward. From memory - Not one like or anything as a dislike. In fact I can't remember one view as to a constructive alternative to a way forward other than I think one poster rolled out the old chestnut of not enough riders. Believe me with 5 main riders and say 2 N/L riders per team there probably would be or even if we went with 6 man teams incl using N/L riders.

Anyway think I will keep my views on the future of the sport to myself in future and let's just see which direction (if any) the sport takes.

Your  wasting your time mate trying to get a decent conversation out of the majority on here mate. There are a few none poole fans who will contrabute sensibly.
Thing is Steve, not being funny although that post you put up was very good it was to long, and nobody reads long posts.
Some on here do agree we need massive changes within the sport and a change at the top, but as per usual it soon peters out and the status quo, good band that, remains.
Im normally very laid back, but this time i am very worried about the future of our sport..

Edited July 10, 2018 by Starman2006

[WestGorton1884]

5 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

I think the Speedway Forum itself shows the state of our sport.

Wolves v Somerset - Only 14 replies and 735 views since it was put up 

Belle Vue v Swindon - Only 20  replies from 1366 views since it was started Sunday

Then we have:

Leicester v Poole - 201 replies from 8867 views since started Friday.

In a way I think the Forum kind of mirror images that lack of real interest. Poole has its fair share of haters and wind up merchants but even so, whether it be Poole 2018 or individual matches the contributions and views are way ahead of the others. 

That's not a gloat at others but to show the general lack on people interested in contributing to the sport in general.

Why would you be gloating?

having nearly 700 replies on Poole 2018 doesn’t necessarily mean more interest than other clubs,