Poole 2018

[emilali]

This will no doubt have been covered already in the many pages of this thread, but why is Chris Holder riding for Torun but not Poole? I know the reasons given when Kildemand came in was that CH had personal issues to sort, but surely if hes riding for Torun he should be for Poole?

[Aroundtheboards]

1 hour ago, ray c said:

Don't you think though that szczepaniak got to be replaced who fits though . That's why I think James is struggling if James is at the back he is chasing his own team mate all the time ?

I know as a Somerset fan it is easy for me to say but I think James will come good ! He is delivering his average albeit leading a team mate home or visa versa. I feel there is lot, lot more to come from Smiler ! I have watched his exploits on grass as well and he is dynamic, he needs time to transfer those skills to the shale. Every team has someone they have to be patient with and I believe James Shanes is Poole's, be patient Poole and let the lad work his craft and it will pay dividends. Good to see so many of you at the Oaktree last night. Remember, "Every dog has his day", yours will come again. BE PATIENT with James.

Edited May 3, 2018 by Aroundtheboards

[Mattfordfan]

1 hour ago, foreverblue said:

Poole fans will continue to get behind the team. It is far too early to panic, i said before Sundstrom was a risk too inconsistent for me and Szczepaniak should be cleaning up at reserve but is out of sorts at the moment, the team has to be given more time and i am sure things will improve when CH returns.

It's not too early. Believe me this team really is that bad. You can't give them anymore time. It really is that bad and it's only going to get worse. 

[ray c]

1 hour ago, Aroundtheboards said:

I know as a Somerset fan it is easy for me to say but I think James will come good ! He is delivering his average albeit leading a team mate home or visa versa. I feel there is lot, lot more to come from Smiler ! I have watched his exploits on grass as well and he is dynamic, he needs time to transfer those skills to the shale. Every team has someone they have to be patient with and I believe James Shanes is Poole's, be patient Poole and let the lad work his craft and it will pay dividends. Good to see so many of you at the Oaktree last night. Remember, "Every dog has his day", yours will come again. BE PATIENT with James.

I am not knocking James love watching James race if my previous post surgested I was knocking him .I would like to see him under the watchful eye of Rosco he seems to be able get a team going jmo 

[foreverblue]

2 hours ago, ray c said:

Don't you think though that szczepaniak got to be replaced who fits though . That's why I think James is struggling if James is at the back he is chasing his own team mate all the time ?

What is more worrying with Szczepaniak  is that he is just as bad in Poland so it is unlikely to be equipment. I agree there are issues with the team at the moment but there is no harm done by giving the underperformers more time. 

[thecoombdog]

The glory supporter is turning on the loyal fans who go home and away supporting their team!!! You couldnt make it up 

[ray c]

4 minutes ago, thecoombdog said:

The glory supporter is turning on the loyal fans who go home and away supporting their team!!! You couldnt make it up 

Not even a supporter glory or for real 

[Orbiter]

I thought Middletwitch was the best manager out there, to me atm he couldn't jump start a Lada 

[Mattfordfan]

46 minutes ago, thecoombdog said:

The glory supporter is turning on the loyal fans who go home and away supporting their team!!! You couldnt make it up 

I'm right so I don't care about the silly little insults. I don't need to go to realise how poor we are. 

If Poole fans want to watch this happen every week then so be it. Because it's not going to get better because Szczepaniak has been woeful in Poland as well. Just like Sundstrom.

At the end of the day not a single person can have a proper debate about the state of the team because I am 100% right. I have shown everyone the evidence. 

Shovlar goes near enough every week but he obviously doesn't pay attention to the racing. Why on earth does he think Szczepaniak isn't a flop? He can't even score 2 points a meeting.

If I didn't care about Poole then I wouldn't be posting about changes. I would sit here and say yay we lost again more of the same next week please. I want changes because I care about the club and I want to see Poole do well and unlike Shovlar I'm not going to lie to myself and pretend that everyone is going to click next week and that we will compete for silverware because the fact is we are the worst of the lot and we only won a meeting because Troy Batchelor was on a guarantee. 

[TesarRacing]

2 minutes ago, Matt Ford Fan said:

I'm right so I don't care about the silly little insults. I don't need to go to realise how poor we are. 

If Poole fans want to watch this happen every week then so be it. Because it's not going to get better because Szczepaniak has been woeful in Poland as well. Just like Sundstrom.

At the end of the day not a single person can have a proper debate about the state of the team because I am 100% right. I have shown everyone the evidence. 

Shovlar goes near enough every week but he obviously doesn't pay attention to the racing. Why on earth does he think Szczepaniak isn't a flop? He can't even score 2 points a meeting.

If I didn't care about Poole then I wouldn't be posting about changes. I would sit here and say yay we lost again more of the same next week please. I want changes because I care about the club and I want to see Poole do well and unlike Shovlar I'm not going to lie to myself and pretend that everyone is going to click next week and that we will compete for silverware because the fact is we are the worst of the lot and we only won a meeting because Troy Batchelor was on a guarantee. 

Whatever you say or think about Steve S he is at least going to the meetings and giving his full support as well as his money. Where do you think the money comes from to make the  changes you keep banging on about?

So no, you do not need to go to realise the team are struggling but maybe your support in person not to mention the entrance fee might just lift the team.

[Mattfordfan]

52 minutes ago, ray c said:

Not even a supporter glory or for real 

You obviously don't care about Poole because you obviously enjoy the current state we are in. You are more than happy to see this every week therefore you are the one who isn't a true fan.

Any true fan would want the best for the club. The insults are pathetic I'm right and have been for weeks.

Keep kissing Shanes' backside fact is he doesn't beat any opposing rider most weeks.   

Keep lying to yourself and pretend Szczepaniak is going to bang in big points all of a sudden. He can't even score points in Poland at the moment. Can't even beat Bowtell either. 

We are virtually out of the cup and will be bottom of the table after Monday night. So we don't have any more time to waste. Wake up and smell the coffee.

[STEVEHOLS54]

MFF made a not irrelevant comment on the Somerset match thread in which he qtd

"Keep this 1-7 for the rest of the month then the following happens. Out of the KO Cup. Probably 7 points off 4th spot in the Premiership. Another hammering by the Robins on Monday and if Rye win then we are bottom of the table"

Poole's next 4 matches to get to the first set of new rolling GSA's for the 3 new riders are assessed are Swin A - Rye H A - RH H - Wolves H. I cannot see this current team getting any points at Swin or the small specialised RH track. We may scrape 3 points against Rye at home as they are as bad as our team on present form. Against Wolves we may well struggle again.

Matt will have a decision to make as last thing he wants is not being able to use these riders current GSA's come 1st June as Spaniak and Sundstrom are below their current levels. Woryna will surely be kept and could be an ideal shoe in at  reserve with either maybe Shanes or even maybe Klindt returning.

I still think Matt may be thinking of using the Kurtz/Graz new rolling av to his advantage to maybe accomodate a new 8 pointer ?? (maybe Piotr Pawlicki) if he can afford such expense. I am not conviced jiggling it around to accomodate Holder and Kildermand is the answer as I have severe reservations as to which way killers career is going He is as inconsistent here as he is in Poland hence why he has been so low in POL EXL av for last 2 seasons and didnt make the cut in SGP.

We could well have a situation where this could work to Ford's long term advantage that a combination of Kurtz new GSA of 7.64 (below 8) - Josh G a bit down on his starting GSA now 6.79 - Woryna currently on 4.89 after 4 meetings - replace Spaniak - even Sundstrom is on a current 5.75 (another poss reserve if he continues as is as his BP dont count on GSA. Holder still on 7.16 so wont be facing a higher GSA come June which surely he would have got had he started the season.

There are numerous possibilities and permutations which Matt can use to his advantage (totally legally and not cheating) to his advantage to take advantage of riders falling av and poss plans for new riders coming in to get within the 43 point limit come 1st June.

Maybe why he is keeping fairly quiet about the situation currently ??

[Mattfordfan]

Just now, TesarRacing said:

Whatever you say or think about Steve S he is at least going to the meetings and giving his full support as well as his money. Where do you think the money comes from to make the  changes you keep banging on about?

So no, you do not need to go to realise the team are struggling but maybe your support in person not to mention the entrance fee might just lift the team.

I don't dislike Shovlar. He's probably a cool guy. The only problem I have with him is the consistent praise of riders who aren't doing anything and the consistent over-hyping of the 1-7.

Somerset defeat - We will still make the play-offs and challenge for silverware.....We are practically out of the cup and will be bottom of the table on Monday night.

Szczepaniak can't score points when using his best equipment in Poland at the moment. So what chance has he got of scoring points in Britain on equipment that isn't half as good as the Polish gear?

Linus Sundstrom averages 5 points whilst being protected riding at No.4 in Poland he is the same rider 3rd place, 3rd, place, 3rd place might nick a 2nd place if he's lucky. He's on a 7.17 average and you don't get the points return for the average he carries. 

The place could be packed out every single week it doesn't change the fact that the team is just not good enough. It's in black and white. The averages, The results and the individual performances of some riders.

Nothing to do with chemistry or any of that crap it's just a risk that hasn't paid off and we have a chance to fix the issue but certain so called Poole fans are more than happy to watch us lose by anything from 10 to 20 points every week.

[ray c]

20 minutes ago, Matt Ford Fan said:

You obviously don't care about Poole because you obviously enjoy the current state we are in. You are more than happy to see this every week therefore you are the one who isn't a true fan.

Any true fan would want the best for the club. The insults are pathetic I'm right and have been for weeks.

Keep kissing Shanes' backside fact is he doesn't beat any opposing rider most weeks.   

Keep lying to yourself and pretend Szczepaniak is going to bang in big points all of a sudden. He can't even score points in Poland at the moment. Can't even beat Bowtell either. 

We are virtually out of the cup and will be bottom of the table after Monday night. So we don't have any more time to waste. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Costa for me 

[Mattfordfan]

20 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

MFF made a not irrelevant comment on the Somerset match thread in which he qtd

"Keep this 1-7 for the rest of the month then the following happens. Out of the KO Cup. Probably 7 points off 4th spot in the Premiership. Another hammering by the Robins on Monday and if Rye win then we are bottom of the table"

Poole's next 4 matches to get to the first set of new rolling GSA's for the 3 new riders are assessed are Swin A - Rye H A - RH H - Wolves H. I cannot see this current team getting any points at Swin or the small specialised RH track. We may scrape 3 points against Rye at home as they are as bad as our team on present form. Against Wolves we may well struggle again.

Matt will have a decision to make as last thing he wants is not being able to use these riders current GSA's come 1st June as Spaniak and Sundstrom are below their current levels. Woryna will surely be kept and could be an ideal shoe in at  reserve with either maybe Shanes or even maybe Klindt returning.

I still think Matt may be thinking of using the Kurtz/Graz new rolling av to his advantage to maybe accomodate a new 8 pointer ?? (maybe Piotr Pawlicki) if he can afford such expense. I am not conviced jiggling it around to accomodate Holder and Kildermand is the answer as I have severe reservations as to which way killers career is going He is as inconsistent here as he is in Poland hence why he has been so low in POL EXL av for last 2 seasons and didnt make the cut in SGP.

We could well have a situation where this could work to Ford's long term advantage that a combination of Kurtz new GSA of 7.64 (below 8) - Josh G a bit down on his starting GSA now 6.79 - Woryna currently on 4.89 after 4 meetings - replace Spaniak - even Sundstrom is on a current 5.75 (another poss reserve if he continues as is as his BP dont count on GSA. Holder still on 7.16 so wont be facing a higher GSA come June which surely he would have got had he started the season.

There are numerous possibilities and permutations which Matt can use to his advantage (totally legally and not cheating) to his advantage to take advantage of riders falling av and poss plans for new riders coming in to get within the 43 point limit come 1st June.

Maybe why he is keeping fairly quiet about the situation currently ??

If we lose to Rye at home then we will be well adrift at the bottom of the table. 

Then changes are pointless because the league is gone then as well as the KO Cup.

Too far back and relying on a Belle Vue or a Swindon 1-7 to completely fall apart. Which won't happen. 

[Mattfordfan]

8 minutes ago, ray c said:

Costa for me 

Cappuccino? 

[Booey boy]

This Poole team was supposed to smash every team out of sight and Woryna was going to get a 7+average by certain Poole supporters what's happened lol

[TesarRacing]

29 minutes ago, Matt Ford Fan said:

I don't dislike Shovlar. He's probably a cool guy. The only problem I have with him is the consistent praise of riders who aren't doing anything and the consistent over-hyping of the 1-7.

Somerset defeat - We will still make the play-offs and challenge for silverware.....We are practically out of the cup and will be bottom of the table on Monday night.

Szczepaniak can't score points when using his best equipment in Poland at the moment. So what chance has he got of scoring points in Britain on equipment that isn't half as good as the Polish gear?

Linus Sundstrom averages 5 points whilst being protected riding at No.4 in Poland he is the same rider 3rd place, 3rd, place, 3rd place might nick a 2nd place if he's lucky. He's on a 7.17 average and you don't get the points return for the average he carries. 

The place could be packed out every single week it doesn't change the fact that the team is just not good enough. It's in black and white. The averages, The results and the individual performances of some riders.

Nothing to do with chemistry or any of that crap it's just a risk that hasn't paid off and we have a chance to fix the issue but certain so called Poole fans are more than happy to watch us lose by anything from 10 to 20 points every week.

You have neatly avoided my question though. Where do you think the promotion will find the money to make the changes you want if so called fans like you, don't turn up for meetings?

[ray c]

15 minutes ago, Matt Ford Fan said:

Cappuccino? 

Latte actually

[Mattfordfan]

Just now, TesarRacing said:

You have neatly avoided my question though. Where do you think the promotion will find the money to make the changes you want if so called fans like you, don't turn up for meetings?

Matt has got money for example.

Richie Worrall would be cheaper than Linus Sundstrom. Nicolai Klindt or Paul Starke would be cheaper than Mateusz Szczepaniak.