ray c Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Arthur Fry said: don't understand the song and dance, he's only a temporary replacement, does he make Poole stronger, I don't think so, noddy any day Sooner see kildermand even if it's only for a few meetings far more exciting thàn holder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, ouch said: You say discretionary I say fluidity. Glad we can agree. Sole purpose - no, that’s just silly. I like it when speedway fans call you out and you say show us the rule. We then quote a rule for you to find and suddenly it doesn’t matter. Discretionary way to stick to your guns, lol. Quite right. Don't let the facts get in the way of a poor conspiracy theory. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) 54 minutes ago, WalterPlinge said: It's just below the regulation that says Woryna and Szczepaniak can come back on ancient historic averages, whilst others can't. Give us a shout when you've located those regulations. It's going to be ok from 2019.I hear Matt is being lined up to replace Buster at the end of this season . Being serious though, Buster has a team competing with Poole, yet they find ways around so called rules time after time. Surely Buster wouldn't let teams get away with so called "ringers". Why let teams bend the rules to gain advantages when you have a team in the same league. I wouldn't.I don't get it Edited April 2, 2018 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, Alan_Jones said: Quite right. Don't let the facts get in the way of a poor conspiracy theory. Funny, when all I post is fact. Over to you....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, Bald Bloke said: Mate, no rules get broken. If they are not above board then the BSPA would not sanction any signings. Its as simple as that. There are to many uptight people on here who want more to do with Poole than there own club, although, i can understand why... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 24 minutes ago, ray c said: Sooner see kildermand even if it's only for a few meetings far more exciting thàn holder you enjoy seeing a rider keep falling off then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 I understand the argument but Matt Szczepaniak is a Kings Lynn asset which ford asked Buster for. So it’s pretty above board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 30 minutes ago, Arthur Fry said: you enjoy seeing a rider keep falling off then Still exciting though that's the main reason I go to speedway .kIdermand certainly not boring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Starman2006 said: And no doubt they will moan again in October... bless. Well i hope so but there is a lot of racing to do between now and then. The fact remains anyone can make any comment on any thread and they are certainly not going to stop because you tell them to! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, poolebolton said: I understand the argument but Matt Szczepaniak is a Kings Lynn asset which ford asked Buster for. So it’s pretty above board. Completely irrelevant, what that shows is that Buster and anybody else involved in decision making shouldn't be if they are letting riders come back to the UK several years later on out of date averages when a blind man can see that they have improved considerably in that time. Above board in British speedway doesn't mean fair or right, particularly when those averages almost certainly would have been different had another club been doing the asking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Our team is perfectly legal so deal with it. Moan, moan, moan grow up. Kildemand wasn't/isn't a full time GP rider perfectly legal. Kacper Woryna and Mat Szczepaniak have averages they achieved when they last rode over here again perfectly legal. Matt Ford has put together a classy 1-7 that should walk the league and the anti-Poole brigade don't like the fact of that happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Particularly not fair, right or consistent when Gordon Pairman tells us that the BSPA reduced Jonsson's average when he came back to the UK because he was no longer the rider he had been. The consistent application of the rules would result in averages being increased for riders who have clearly improved since their last time in the UK and that is what should have happened. Of course you have to be capable of viewing things objectively rather than just subjectively to understand the harm this sort of inconsistency does to the credibility of the sport. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) Lots of sour grapes again towards the Poole team. Perhaps their promotions can put together a side to challenge. Edited April 2, 2018 by Steve Shovlar 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Un Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 31/03/2018 at 8:04 PM, Starman2006 said: Its a jumper not a flat horse. Flat horses come out of Starting stalls, jumpers have tape start. Hope that helps mate. I always thought that jumpers were started by casting on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Aces51 said: Particularly not fair, right or consistent when Gordon Pairman tells us that the BSPA reduced Jonsson's average when he came back to the UK because he was no longer the rider he had been. The consistent application of the rules would result in averages being increased for riders who have clearly improved since their last time in the UK and that is what should have happened. Of course you have to be capable of viewing things objectively rather than just subjectively to understand the harm this sort of inconsistency does to the credibility of the sport. Moan about the bspa mc then and take it off the Poole thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Moan about the bspa mc then and take it off the Poole thread. Gordon Pairman made the comment in this thread and it relates to two riders in the current Poole team so it seems entirely relevant to make comments about it in this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Aces51 said: Gordon Pairman made the comment in this thread and it relates to two riders in the current Poole team so it seems entirely relevant to make comments about it in this thread. So a couple of promoters have got caught out telling fibs to cover the reason certain riders were not signed. The trutch has now come out. End of story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: So a couple of promoters have got caught out telling fibs to cover the reason certain riders were not signed. The trutch has now come out. End of story. I do hope that wasn't too painful. Was it something you ate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Starman2006 said: Steve, give it a rest mate. I most certainly will not, it's unimportant to me who it affects or benefits. How you can have a rider on his old average who rode in 9 GP's whilst others are saddled with a 9??? Just disgraceful. It's the BSPA who are at fault here not one club. 5 hours ago, Arthur Fry said: keep going on about it won't change anything, bspa make the rules not Poole That's why I'm going on about it, transparency is the only thing most speedway fans. I couldn't care less which thread it is on. The BSPA have completely messed up the rules on averages yet again. 3 hours ago, scaramanga said: if im not wrong didnt kildermand ride in brittan last year ? sure he did a few meetings for someone probaly not enough to change his average but might just qualify that way You are wrong, he didn't ride in Britain in 2017. 38 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: So a couple of promoters have got caught out telling fibs to cover the reason certain riders were not signed. The trutch has now come out. End of story. Care to quote the truthful story?? All I've seen and heard are posts from a former promoter saying no such rules existed whilst 2 others have spoken out saying there was. There is no truthful story. Just opinions. Of course if you can quote me this story then I'm only happy to read it. Edited April 2, 2018 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 time must fly by i was sure he did a short stink as cover for someone must have been the year before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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