Agrotron Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Retweeted Ned Payne (@nedpayne_echo): Breaking: Pirates getting Peter Kildemand in as cover for Chris Holder for a couple of weeks to kick off the season. Holder stepping back due to personal issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 They can't use Kildermand can they? Didn't they bring in a rule GP riders who missed last season would be reassessed to a 9.00 exactly like NKI? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldRacer Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 5:09 PM, Agrotron said: Holder out for a few weeks and Ford hopeful Kildeman will deputise, fk it lets just bin Holder now and take Peter for the season! Monkey business already Expand I think they'd be better off with Kildemand than Holder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Kildemand rode in 9 GP's last year so should be classed as any other GP rider and assessed at 9 or 8, whichever is being used. He last rode in the UK in 2015 and averaged 7.10 but it is farcical if he is allowed to return on that average but Zagar, who last rode in the UK more recently, in 2016, wasn't allowed to return on his average of 7.48. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWP Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 5:25 PM, Aces51 said: Kildemand rode in 9 GP's last year so should be classed as any other GP rider and assessed at 9 or 8, whichever is being used. He last rode in the UK in 2015 and averaged 7.10 but it is farcical if he is allowed to return on that average but Zagar, who last rode in the UK more recently, in 2016, wasn't allowed to return on his average of 7.48. Expand I agree - has BSPA agreed Kildemand can ride for Poole. Good but craft move by Ford to replace a 7pt rider with a 9pt one and still be within limit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 5:25 PM, Aces51 said: Kildemand rode in 9 GP's last year so should be classed as any other GP rider and assessed at 9 or 8, whichever is being used. He last rode in the UK in 2015 and averaged 7.10 but it is farcical if he is allowed to return on that average but Zagar, who last rode in the UK more recently, in 2016, wasn't allowed to return on his average of 7.48. Expand If Kildemand is allowed to sign for Poole then the sport is really bent. As you say Zagar wasn't allowed to return on a 2016 average because he rode in GPs. Anyone can clearly see then that Kildemand, in exactly the same posiion, can't be allowed to return on a (even older) 2015 average. It has to be 9.00 If Kildemand is allowed to ride, then Zagar should sue the SCB as he had an offer of a team place on 7.48 which was withdrawn when he was saddled with a 9.00 average for the exact same reasons that should apply to Kildemand. P.s. Is Holder's work permit expected to be granted in a few weeks, or is he out for the season now? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 How does that work, they can't use PK as a guest as he's not in a declared 1-7 and if and when Holder decides to return if PK hasn't increased his average to 7.16 or over they will have to redeclare and by then his average may not fit.confused!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 5:36 PM, WalterPlinge said: If Kildemand is allowed to sign for Poole then the sport is really bent. As you say Zagar wasn't allowed to return on a 2016 average because he rode in GPs. Anyone can clearly see then that Kildemand, in exactly the same posiion, can't be allowed to return on a (even older) 2015 average. It has to be 9.00 If Kildemand is allowed to ride, then Zagar should sue the SCB as he had an offer of a team place on 7.48 which was withdrawn when he was saddled with a 9.00 average for the exact same reasons that should apply to Kildemand. P.s. Is Holder's work permit expected to be granted in a few weeks, or is he out for the season now? Expand I imagine Holder is out to sort out stuff with Max first and his Poland visa issues. Your not going to come to P and P unless he plans to ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWP Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 5:40 PM, geoff58 said: correct let's see if the pikey pie - rats get away with it Expand It’s Poole of course they will lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) Could it be a technicality as Kildermand was a replacement GP rider due to injury to Nicki etc and not a qualified 1-15 rider. Several riders had wild cards for one GP. Does that make them a 9pt rider too like Cooky at Cardiff. Of course not. Edited March 21, 2018 by Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 From what I’ve just been told. Killer isn’t classed as a GP rider due to his reserve status. And his average fits because Poole still had about 0.4ish point left!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 So your agreeing with me from the post above. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldRacer Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 5:51 PM, poolebolton said: From what I’ve just been told. Killer isn’t classed as a GP rider due to his reserve status. And his average fits because Poole still had about 0.4ish point left!!! Expand Business as usual when it comes to Poole and the BSPA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzum Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 5:50 PM, Mark said: Could it be a technicality as Kildermand was a replacement GP rider due to injury to Nicki etc and not a qualified 1-15 rider. Several riders had wild cards for one GP. Does that make them a 9pt rider too like Cooky at Cardiff. Of course not. Expand The rules are being made up as they go. How is Vaculik on a 8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 A rider who races in 9 GP's and finishes 13th is a GP rider by any realistic definition. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 5:53 PM, Mark said: So your agreeing with me from the post above. Expand Yes, just been told that from someone there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 5:50 PM, Mark said: Could it be a technicality as Kildermand was a replacement GP rider due to injury to Nicki etc and not a qualified 1-15 rider. Several riders had wild cards for one GP. Does that make them a 9pt rider too like Cooky at Cardiff. Of course not. Expand No of course not but appearing in 9 of the 11 gp's is a little different to a single appearance as a wildcard isnt it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Here we go again!! 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) On 3/21/2018 at 5:55 PM, Anzum said: The rules are being made up as they go. How is Vaculik on a 8? Expand If Poole get away with this stunt well what's the point??? fair play totally gone out of the window.Vaculik was ninth in the series but he gets a eight unreal to be honest but nothing surprises you with Poole. Edited March 21, 2018 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Killer in for Holder then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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