Steve Shovlar Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 34 minutes ago, stevebrum said: In the UK well ahead, if isn't even an argument. Until Kurtz adds a point to his starting average then he might start to close that cavern. You clearly have an inability to spot fast rising talent. He has already surpassed Morris regardless of last years Premiership averages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Jason.C said: Could yet be as good as Nick Morris? Nice try Why is that nice try? In the uk Morris almost a 9 pointer and Brady just over 8. No doubting Kurtz has the potential but he isn't even close yet to what Morris does over here. As I've said if he cuts out the silly duff rides and mistakes he could push on to the level Morris has achieved in the Uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Gavan said: Why is that nice try? In the uk Morris almost a 9 pointer and Brady just over 8. No doubting Kurtz has the potential but he isn't even close yet to what Morris does over here. As I've said if he cuts out the silly duff rides and mistakes he could push on to the level Morris has achieved in the Uk Yet given the choice every single team would take Kurtz over Morris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, Steve Shovlar said: You clearly have an inability to spot fast rising talent. He has already surpassed Morris regardless of last years Premiership averages. When he averages more than Morris over here than you have a case. At the moment to say Kurtz is better in the uk is total tosh. One minute your saying it's irrelevant that Tungate beat Kurtz because it's Aussie form. Yet in the next moment your saying Kurtz is better than Morris because of the teams he has signed for abroad!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, BurntFaceMan said: Yet given the choice every single team would take Kurtz over Morris. Irrelevant. Who has the better potential?Kurtz Who is better in Uk? Morris of course Brady has room to improve his average which all team managers want and Morris probably doesn't so it's a bit of a daft argument to say that want Kurtz when they will because he should improve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, BurntFaceMan said: Yet given the choice every single team would take Kurtz over Morris. A lack of understanding of talent and ability. I have nothing against Morris but he is never a proper number one. Like I said earlier a Schlein at best. I don’t believe for one minute he will become a GP rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Gavan said: Irrelevant. Who has the better potential?Kurtz Who is better in Uk? Morris of course Brady has room to improve his average which all team managers want and Morris probably doesn't so it's a bit of a daft argument to say that want Kurtz when they will because he should improve So Kurtz is considered the better rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Gavan said: Why is that nice try? In the uk Morris almost a 9 pointer and Brady just over 8. No doubting Kurtz has the potential but he isn't even close yet to what Morris does over here. As I've said if he cuts out the silly duff rides and mistakes he could push on to the level Morris has achieved in the Uk did Morris ride at no 1 last season, Kurtz rode there most of the season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, Steve Shovlar said: A lack of understanding of talent and ability. I have nothing against Morris but he is never a proper number one. Like I said earlier a Schlein at best. I don’t believe for one minute he will become a GP rider. So averaging nearly 9 not good enough for you? Lets see how Kurtz gets on and if he can achieve in the UK what Morris has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Gavan said: Irrelevant. Who has the better potential?Kurtz Who is better in Uk? Morris of course Brady has room to improve his average which all team managers want and Morris probably doesn't so it's a bit of a daft argument to say that want Kurtz when they will because he should improve So would you choose Kurtz or Morris as your number one next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, BurntFaceMan said: So Kurtz is considered the better rider. Lol who has the brain cell today! Kurtz has the potential to add at least half a point on his average. Morris doesn't so for team building purposes you would have Kurtz. Bit like last season Poole chose KK because his average fitted better than Holder and Holder would be unlikely to increase his. Didn't mean they thought KK was the better rider. Kurtz has the potential to average 9 so you would have him on an average just over 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: So would you choose Kurtz or Morris as your number one next season? Either. one has proved he can get near 9 points one has the potential to do so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Arthur Fry said: did Morris ride at no 1 last season, Kurtz rode there most of the season Did Kurtz ride for the Champions last year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, Gavan said: Either. one has proved he can get near 9 points one has the potential to do so possibly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gavan said: Lol who has the brain cell today! Kurtz has the potential to add at least half a point on his average. Morris doesn't so for team building purposes you would have Kurtz. Bit like last season Poole chose KK because his average fitted better than Holder and Holder would be unlikely to increase his. Didn't mean they thought KK was the better rider. Kurtz has the potential to average 9 so you would have him on an average just over 8. Poole chose KK because Matt and Chris had a tiff. Everybody would choose Kurtz over Morris because he's the better rider. Edited January 14, 2018 by BurntFaceMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason.C Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Gavan said: Why is that nice try? In the uk Morris almost a 9 pointer and Brady just over 8. No doubting Kurtz has the potential but he isn't even close yet to what Morris does over here. As I've said if he cuts out the silly duff rides and mistakes he could push on to the level Morris has achieved in the Uk I wasn't sure if what you said was in jest. Aside of the difference in average, in my opinion there isn't much that separates them currently & Morris has had more bites at the apple. If he cuts out the silly stuff as you've mentioned, this could be a big year for Brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: So would you choose Kurtz or Morris as your number one next season? they dont want to ride for ipswich so he has no choice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, A ORLOV said: Did Kurtz ride for the Champions last year ? Er, what on earth has that got to do with anything? Kurtz rode at 1, Morris was protected with easier rides. Swindon fans happy with Morris. Poole fans happy with Kurtz and a saving of the best part of a point. Morris unlikely to improve his average. Kurtz likely to add a point. Who is the best deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Arthur Fry said: they dont want to ride for ipswich so he has no choice Gavan is an Ipswich fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: Did Kurtz ride for the Champions last year ? no but he will be this year 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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