Aroundtheboards Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 14 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Matt has played hard ball over Jack Holder and rightly so. The lad is still young but has some growing up to do. Perhaps in the future they can patch things up but not at the moment. This was one of my main concerns when Somerset signed Jack ! As you say, he has some growing up to do and needs to level out a bit. In his defence, he is young and over exuberant and needs reining in and put his energy into his performance on track rather than confrontations with management in the pits !!! I suspect Gary May will, well have the measure of young Jacky Boy !!! Chris needs to stop baby sitting his brother and let him find his own way and not compromise his own career into the bargain !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, Aroundtheboards said: This was one of my main concerns when Somerset signed Jack ! As you say, he has some growing up to do and needs to level out a bit. In his defence, he is young and over exuberant and needs reining in and put his energy into his performance on track rather than confrontations with management in the pits !!! I suspect Gary May will, well have the measure of young Jacky Boy !!! Chris needs to stop baby sitting his brother and let him find his own way and not compromise his own career into the bargain !!! Im sure gary may will do a better job with jack than was done at poole imo we shall see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southampton Pirate Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Guys, I am really not interested in the "in and outs" of social Media. I come on here to find out what is happening with the team that I support. So do me a favour!!!! if you want to discuss youtube, hits, likes and imogees, take it to a site where people ARE interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, SCB said: If he’s not working here he doesn’t need a visa does he? The point is he got his visa as it was 'sponsored' by Poole on the basis that they have offered him a 2018 contract. Having initially not reached agreement with Poole on some of the specifics (not financial - as MF stated)), he has looked at what other UK options may be possible and now a dose of reality is beginning to set in. MF has been quite clear in stating that CH was in every one of his team 1-7 options for the start of the season. I expect the starting line-up to be confirmed and announced very soon - especially as there is a supporters quiz evening scheduled for next Wednesday, 10th!! Its anyone's guess what mid-season changes may happen, but one thing's for sure - MF won't wait as long as he did with KK to ring any changes if riders aren't performing to their best?! Edited January 3, 2018 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aroundtheboards Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, ray c said: Im sure gary may will do a better job with jack than was done at poole imo we shall see I am almost a 100% sure you are right and I sincerely hope so because the kid has loads of potential if he channels his efforts in to his riding rather than off track personalities he will do well !!! ( That's if you can refer to MF as a personality !!! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Aroundtheboards said: I am almost a 100% sure you are right and I sincerely hope so because the kid has loads of potential if he channels his efforts in to his riding rather than off track personalities he will do well !!! ( That's if you can refer to MF as a personality !!! ) Whats the nightlife like around the Oaktree area?! I'm sure that Garry's regular presence in the Poole pits last year will have given him a fair insight into what he will have to deal with with JH!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aroundtheboards Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Whats the nightlife like around the Oaktree area?! Not a lot Skidder !!! You've got the Oaktree itself which is always good after a meeting and a good chance to do a bit of meet and greet with riders. The Windmill is back up the Bristol Road (A38) near the M5 Junction 22. That's about it, unless you head into Burnham (5 mins drive ) there's a Wetherspoons and several town centre pubs but of course you've got to watch the old D&D !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: MF has been quite clear in stating that CH was in every one of his team 1-7 options for the start of the season. I expect the starting line-up to be confirmed and announced very soon - especially as there is a supporters quiz evening scheduled for next Wednesday, 10th!! Its anyone's guess what mid-season changes may happen, but one thing's for sure - MF won't wait as long as he did with KK to ring any changes if riders aren't performing to their best?! Will Matt be able to name his full squad so early as you indicate though Skidder ? If the Poles STILL haven't advised any rule change to the max 3 Leagues then surely that still restricts his options if for example he is going for say Sundstrom who was riding 3 Leagues last season incl both Swedish Leagues. Same would apply if it was any of the other names we heard mentioned on here like Milik etc. I assume the likes of Madsen are out of the equation as he hasn't signed for anyone other than Poland and could easily have been named by now had he been in the running as he is not caught up in the 3 league rule having not signed for any Swedish Club. I follow the main Polish sites and so far nothing mentioned about change of the rule or re discussions about possibly changing it. (Although we are still way before season start for 2018). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 On 24/12/2017 at 1:05 PM, Baldyman said: Trust me...they were both lined up for somerset, but looks like ford stuck to his guns and didn't let it happen......I couldn't account for that. Nothing surprises me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Jack holder was at Plymouth for 2 seasons hated not winning but was no problem to the manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Will Matt be able to name his full squad so early as you indicate though Skidder ? If the Poles STILL haven't advised any rule change to the max 3 Leagues then surely that still restricts his options if for example he is going for say Sundstrom who was riding 3 Leagues last season incl both Swedish Leagues. Same would apply if it was any of the other names we heard mentioned on here like Milik etc. I assume the likes of Madsen are out of the equation as he hasn't signed for anyone other than Poland and could easily have been named by now had he been in the running as he is not caught up in the 3 league rule having not signed for any Swedish Club. I follow the main Polish sites and so far nothing mentioned about change of the rule or re discussions about possibly changing it. (Although we are still way before season start for 2018). Someone on the bsf who also follows the polish scene put a link to a Polish 2018 Rider contract which although the translation is a bit iffy would seem to suggest the riders in the Polish Extraleague can ride in upto 4 leagues!! HOWEVER, I stress that the translation doesn't make it that easy to understand. Much more relevant (to me anyway) are the rumoured changes to the assessed current and former GP riders!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 18 hours ago, ray c said: Surely if holder has been offered a contract at Poole then Matt is should demand a return for is money if holder does not want to ride for us then a transfer fee is in order ? He may have offered him a contract but that does not mean to say he has signed it. I seem to remember Kyle Howarth being offered a contract some seasons ago but he refused to sign it & rode elsewhere. Nobody bought his contract, so what is the difference? Miedinski was offered a contract at Swindon but chose to ride for Poole. Swindon only got a loan fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Someone on the bsf who also follows the polish scene put a link to a Polish 2018 Rider contract which although the translation is a bit iffy would seem to suggest the riders in the Polish Extraleague can ride in upto 4 leagues!! HOWEVER, I stress that the translation doesn't make it that easy to understand. Much more relevant (to me anyway) are the rumoured changes to the assessed current and former GP riders!!! IF that is the case then one would think clubs would be in a position to sign the riders they may have so far been sitting on the fence on due to it not being clarified. I hope it is more than the previous 3 but you would have thought something would have crept out into the public domain by now or on the Polish sites even if it was only a case of along the lines of "It looks like the POL EXL are lifting the 3 league rule to a max of 4 leagues". I don't doubt though what you have read even if the translation is a bit "iffy". As for the rumoured changes on current and former GP riders. Will it change much as far as 2018 Prem start is concerned ??. Near enough all the one over 8's have been nominated except BV who 99% will name Cook and KL who surely will try to get NKI irrespective. It only becomes interesting if riders can come in below 8 either based on old GSA's or if they are reassessed below 8. Anyone surely who is a 9 who becomes an 8 or someone who was a 7 or 7 plus on an old GSA but who is reassessed at 8 wont get in anyway ??. I am thinking for example someone like Piotr Pawlicki ?? who was below 8 at 7.32 on his last 2014 GSA and is no longer a GP rider for this season. Giving him an 8 with who has been announced in Prem teams so far wont get the guy into a UK team ?? If he is below 8 then it becomes another story. If he wanted UK anyway that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 3 hours ago, lewy said: Jack holder was at Plymouth for 2 seasons hated not winning but was no problem to the manager Matt isn't the manager though! Unless it was one of the times he stepped in for Middlo. As I've said before most people would get a warning/sacked if they spoke that way to their boss like Jack did to Matt. Glad he's not back tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Matt isn't the manager though! Unless it was one of the times he stepped in for Middlo. As I've said before most people would get a warning/sacked if they spoke that way to their boss like Jack did to Matt. Glad he's not back tbh I wonder how much input middle got because sometimes it doesn't look a lot ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: As for the rumoured changes on current and former GP riders. Will it change much as far as 2018 Prem start is concerned ??. Near enough all the one over 8's have been nominated except BV who 99% will name Cook and KL who surely will try to get NKI irrespective. It only becomes interesting if riders can come in below 8 either based on old GSA's or if they are reassessed below 8. Anyone surely who is a 9 who becomes an 8 or someone who was a 7 or 7 plus on an old GSA but who is reassessed at 8 wont get in anyway ??. I am thinking for example someone like Piotr Pawlicki ?? who was below 8 at 7.32 on his last 2014 GSA and is no longer a GP rider for this season. Giving him an 8 with who has been announced in Prem teams so far wont get the guy into a UK team ?? If he is below 8 then it becomes another story. If he wanted UK anyway that is. Piotr certainly was interested in coming back this season. CVS confirmed that at the talk in. Discussions took place and asked for his name to be circulated if Wolves couldn't use hkm. CVS said they were interested until it was confirmed he would be reassessed at 9 (now possibly 8). It would be an absolute farce to let any of those riders return this season on their old averages sometime in the season, particularly when they wanted to come in the first place. But then this is the BSPA so anything is possible. Edited January 3, 2018 by stevebrum spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 hours ago, ray c said: I wonder how much input middle got because sometimes it doesn't look a lot ? I'm sure he gets a say, just not the final one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 So Hans Andersen is back in the UK and back in Poole for a visit! Wonder where this is heading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 3 hours ago, poolebolton said: So Hans Andersen is back in the UK and back in Poole for a visit! Wonder where this is heading. matts office i hope to sign up for next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 6 hours ago, poolebolton said: So Hans Andersen is back in the UK and back in Poole for a visit! Wonder where this is heading. Cutting the ribbon at the new Poole cafe? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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