Bagpuss Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Why just GP riders? Should be anybody who has missed seasons here and therefore earned their British average during a harder season and who has progressed on the continent in the meantime. As I said, do them all or none at all. Can't have a situation where there are bargains to be had while others are forced out by high averages. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1234 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 People moan they want to see top riders over here and when clubs try people just moan and say they are cheating!! From a Somerset fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 I do think re-assessing all would open a can of worms, all new riders coming in now will have new averages plus any full time GP riders. Otherwise how would it be calculated exactly based on Sweden and Poland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 There is no logic in reassessing GP riders who didn't race here in 2017 as 9 but not reassessing every other rider who did not race here last year. Assessing every GP rider the same is hardly accurate. There is a significant difference in quality between the riders finishing 1st and 15th. There doesn't need to be any controversy. A formula can be calculated for converting foreign league averages to a PL or CL average in exactly the same way as CL averages are converted to a PL average and vice versa. By doing that most would accept the conversion, it is transparent and fair and would reflect the most recent form of a rider. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 ^^^ This ^^^ It's not beyond the wit of man to create a formula which would work. Get SCB on the case! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Anymore news on any possible signing's, has noddy signed yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Out of ten races Nick would come out on top a tougher rider and he can mix it with anyone.I am a big fan of Kurtz classy a different rider to Morris saying all that i rate Fricke higher than both of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Out of ten races Nick would come out on top a tougher rider and he can mix it with anyone.I am a big fan of Kurtz classy a different rider to Morris saying all that i rate Fricke higher than both of them.I agree if there is a gp place for one of them I think fricke could be the first one to get one imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Out of ten races Nick would come out on top a tougher rider and he can mix it with anyone.I am a big fan of Kurtz classy a different rider to Morris saying all that i rate Fricke higher than both of them. Kurtz and Morris met 8 times last season and Morris won 7 of those races. Now personally i think Kurtz will turn out to be the best of those 2 riders but last season in the UK Morris was ahead of Kurtz. And yes if they had to put 1 young Aussie in the GP's then Fricke would get the nod over both the other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 In my opinion Fricke is too inconsistent which is why he has a lower average than either Kurtz or Morris. Personally i feel Kurtz will prove to be the best of the trio next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 There’s no need to asses anyone other than GP riders who haven’t ridden here for a year. They all come in one a 9. That should be it. Otherwise you are opening up a whole new minefield of dodgyness, with some fans feeling victimised that a particular rider is being over assessed. If a rider has an average from riding here in the past then that should be used. Swindon with Musiliak, Wolves with Woffinden. They had an average, which was used. Should KK have been re-assesed back to 8.5 when joining Rye from Poole? Of course not. Steve, you can't say GP riders who haven't ridden here a year should be assessed as 9 then say Woffy should keep his average. It just doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Steve, you can't say GP riders who haven't ridden here a year should be assessed as 9 then say Woffy should keep his average. It just doesn't make sense. No I could have been clearer. Woffinden should come in as a 9. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 No I could have been clearer. Woffinden should come in as a 9. I fully agree with that. Although the timing of the reassessing couldn't be any worse with the supposed BT bargaining point of 7 GP riders. Any rider who missed 2017 should be reassessed for transparency. I couldn't care less who that might affect even if it was my own team. About time we made the rules clear and unambiguous. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 In my opinion Fricke is too inconsistent which is why he has a lower average than either Kurtz or Morris. Personally i feel Kurtz will prove to be the best of the trio next season.Kurtz showed in the PLRC at Belle Vue that his problem is consistency one race beats Doyle by a mile then struggles in races with the likes of Lawson.Fricke for me is a class act a superb stylist Adams esc) i believe he will be a GP rider in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 This has probably been covered before but was just browsing the SGB website to see who had signed who up to yet and was surprised to see that Brady is the only Poole rider listed. I thought you'd signed Woryna for 2018 during last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Kurtz showed in the PLRC at Belle Vue that his problem is consistency one race beats Doyle by a mile then struggles in races with the likes of Lawson.Fricke for me is a class act a superb stylist Adams esc) i believe he will be a GP rider in the future. You can't judge a rider on one meeting Kurtz was very consistent for Poole last season and in my opinion none of the trio will make GP level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 would guess theyd all have to get in the gp through the challenge route(no wildcards) so its going to be hard but theyve all got talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 You can't judge a rider on one meeting Kurtz was very consistent for Poole last season and in my opinion none of the trio will make GP level. Agreed, I expect they will make the GPs just not yet. They are 21 21 and 23 think that is right. Fricke has had 1 full season in Sweden and Poland Kurtz has yet to do Sweden and 2 meetings in Poland. I am talking Extraliga here. Morris has done a couple in sweden and nothing in Poland. Fricke and Kurtz are valued much higher by teams across Europe rather than Morris. Simply because of age and that is a huge advantage. In a 2/3 years time i think we could see Dudek, Kurtz, Fricke, Drabik, Lebedevs, Milik,Magic, Tai battling for a title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 This has probably been covered before but was just browsing the SGB website to see who had signed who up to yet and was surprised to see that Brady is the only Poole rider listed. I thought you'd signed Woryna for 2018 during last season? He was listed,but gone awol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 This has probably been covered before but was just browsing the SGB website to see who had signed who up to yet and was surprised to see that Brady is the only Poole rider listed. I thought you'd signed Woryna for 2018 during last season?Im only guessing but I think maybe his avg is being looked at which may throw a spanner in the works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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