Poole 2018

[poolebolton]

 

Yet Lodz still sign him for next year - reportedly!![/quote

 

 

It is true that he has signed for Łódź. From the sounds of things he was almost forced to!

[kingbee]

How is Piotr every rider??

you need to read all the posts especially PooleBolton

[LisaColette]

you need to read all the posts especially PooleBolton

Hmm, maybe but Stevebrum's post that you quoted was in response about Piotr. Steve tends to have a thing about Wolves assets never wanting to ever ride for anyone else. Who is to say that Piotr might want to be at BV? He has a point about Freddie and Tai but Piotr wasn't there long enough to build up that type if loyalty imo.

[Call me wolfie]

Hmm, maybe but Stevebrum's post that you quoted was in response about Piotr. Steve tends to have a thing about Wolves assets never wanting to ever ride for anyone else. Who is to say that Piotr might want to be at BV? He has a point about Freddie and Tai but Piotr wasn't there long enough to build up that type if loyalty imo.

And Nikolai Klindt didn't want to ride for us last year either

[Aces51]

Most riders are like the rest of us when it comes to employment. They choose the best overall package and loyalty only comes into it if the package offered by their present employer is as good as or, close to, the best offer.

[BurntFaceMan]

World Champion?

 

I said want. British Speedway is the joke of the speedway world.

[STEVEHOLS54]

Does anyone know on the flwg.

 

I assume a team can sign a rider for the flwg year as soon as the season ends ?? (Even if the team points limit I not ratified until the AGM but almost certainly known well before then).

 

If a promoter wants to sign a foreign rider who has not ridden in UK before or say prior to 2014 can he obtain what that riders GSA will be assessed at before the end of season BSPA AGM in mid November ??

 

I can imagine their are a few promoters at least out their who are looking around Europe with ideas of who they might like to at least try and sign well in advance of the AGM and 2018 season. Can they get an answer from the BSPA/SCB on what that riders GSA will be for 2018 ?? as they can then consider or discount that rider into their 2018 ideas as they start their planning process and draw up a shortlist of riders they want to maybe approach.

 

The actual team limit for 2018 doesn't totally affect your thinking.

 

For example one may want to sign say a Vaculik/Piotr Pawliki or maybe even other riders who have either never ridden or last rode in 2014. To consider those riders or even say both in your thoughts then surely you must be able to get an idea of what GSA they would be assessed at for 2018 in say Oct.

 

Or maybe not as we are talking about the BSPA/SCB here.

 

I am sure there are some owners/promoters out there who need some idea of a riders GSA irrespective of whether the points limit is 42/43 or 45 points for 2018.

 

It is incredible that the Poles are almost done and dusted on teams even before the 2 week transfer window officially opens tomorrow and looking at an article on Speedway Bloggen Sweden today the 8 teams in the top league are near enough complete with a few odd exceptions incl missing names such as Andersen and Vaculik who are not CURRENTLY included and maybe wont be for different reasons. Andersen was only 40th in SWE av last year and maybe Vaculik has other plans if he doesn't (as many expect he wont) get a SGP Wildcard for 2018.

 

I know the swedes can have bigger squads but normally you are in the main named 1 to 5/6 if you a re likely to figure for the team.

 

Anyway good to hear from anyone in the know on the subject.

[ouch]

I think it depends if your in the right gang.

 

Its happened before where rules were changed on the eve of a season to stop a team having their signed 1-7.

 

Rider averages are also quite changeable dependant on who wants to sign them.

[hyabb17]

Vaculik as a wildcard in the GPs. Cant see him in the UK next year now.

[poolebolton]

Vaculik as a wildcard in the GPs. Cant see him in the UK next year now.

Agreed. But still hasn't signed in Sweden. Can't see him doing just Poland and Gp's

[STEVEHOLS54]

Wonder if NKI will return to UK if now only an SGP reserve.

 

Cant see DK giving him enough income to cover the shortfall where UK extra meetings probably would. Especially as he also lives in UK.

 

I wonder with all the doom/gloom and dumb down league posters on the KL Forum if he may come back as a HL at another club. Of course there is the possibility maybe that he could go back to KL and Rob Lambert move on ??

 

The Vaculik position in UK may well depend on the Swedish situation. Find surprising that he was 16th out of 56 in Swedish League but has yet to sign when all the other top stars have.

 

Maybe he has other plans like Uk although perhaps the SGP Wildcard may have thrown a spanner in the works. Cant help thinking maybe even he will be a bit surprised he got one.

[foreverblue]

Wonder if NKI will return to UK if now only an SGP reserve.

 

Cant see DK giving him enough income to cover the shortfall where UK extra meetings probably would. Especially as he also lives in UK.

 

I wonder with all the doom/gloom and dumb down league posters on the KL Forum if he may come back as a HL at another club. Of course there is the possibility maybe that he could go back to KL and Rob Lambert move on ??

 

The Vaculik position in UK may well depend on the Swedish situation. Find surprising that he was 16th out of 56 in Swedish League but has yet to sign when all the other top stars have.

 

Maybe he has other plans like Uk although perhaps the SGP Wildcard may have thrown a spanner in the works. Cant help thinking maybe even he will be a bit surprised he got one.

Can't see NKI riding anywhere other than Kings Lynn, could be a good season for them if he returned.

[Steve0]

Vaculik as a wildcard in the GPs. Cant see him in the UK next year now.

Am surprised he got the nod over PUK !

[TheRealFiend]

Still a chance (Vaculik). Poland and GP's are not enough rides for him.

 

NKI and Zagar will be doing Britain. Compared to other clubs we are running out of options and fast.

 

BV - Bjerre, Cook, Fricke & Zagar

KL - NKI & R. Lambert

Rye - Harris, Kasprzak & Nicholls

Swindon - Doyle & Morris

Wolves - F. Lindgren, Masters, Piotr Pawlicki & Thorssell

 

 

And then us. H. Andersen, C. Holder & B. Kurtz. Need Vaculik to not sign in Sweden otherwise it really is curtains.

[Gavan]

Even if Chris Holder signed for Poole he is on the downgrade anyway so cant see him doing any good, farcical that he is in the gp's

 

His ban keeps him out for the start of the season anyway.

 

Why would any club touch Jack Holder with that attitude?

[MattK]

Even if Chris Holder signed for Poole he is on the downgrade anyway so cant see him doing any good, farcical that he is in the gp's

 

His ban keeps him out for the start of the season anyway.

 

Why would any club touch Jack Holder with that attitude?

 

Chris Holder is more than capable of being a 9-point rider in this league.

[stevebrum]

Hmm, maybe but Stevebrum's post that you quoted was in response about Piotr. Steve tends to have a thing about Wolves assets never wanting to ever ride for anyone else. Who is to say that Piotr might want to be at BV? He has a point about Freddie and Tai but Piotr wasn't there long enough to build up that type if loyalty imo.

I don't have a thing about it at all.

Wolves riders , and club, seem to show loyalty instead of moving clubs or riding here for one season.

Piotr had a full season with Wolves and loved it and so did the fans. If he suited him he would ride anywhere. However if he wanted to come back to the UK I bet he would be more than happy to come back to his parent club.

Poole fans like Lisa seem to think every rider wants to ride for Poole, which isn't true quite clearly.

[foreverblue]

Even if Chris Holder signed for Poole he is on the downgrade anyway so cant see him doing any good, farcical that he is in the gp's

 

His ban keeps him out for the start of the season anyway.

 

Why would any club touch Jack Holder with that attitude?

I agree can't see any reason why anyone would think otherwise, I remember him saying last year how dangerous the sport is and if he is thinking like that I can't see how he will recover, some have mentioned he has had mechanical issues but that only masks the overall problem that he hasn't got the heart to be a top rider anymore. His season overall in the Gp's has been appalling and very lucky to be back in them, not sure Nicky Pedersen should be in them either coming back from a bad injury.

 

Chris Holder is more than capable of being a 9-point rider in this league.

I don't think he is capable of a 8 point average anymore.

[TheRealFiend]

 

His ban keeps him out for the start of the season anyway.

 

Talking of bans. How was yours by the way lol.

 

Just kidding.

[Gavan]

 

Talking of bans. How was yours by the way lol.

 

Just kidding.

Didnt get banned thanks.

 

Have other issues going on so the forum has been slightly secondary to my health , plus been away during half term week though was able to go to Foxhall for the cup final