SteveLyric2 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Lambert's interview in the SS last week suggested that he may give British speedway a miss altogether?! If he does continue it might not be at KL unless Buster guarantees to build a stronger team. Looks like Newcastle will miss out. ps. back to Poole 2018 we could be close to a further announcement of the next rider - maybe by the end of the month?! Edited September 13, 2017 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Lambert's interview in the SS last week suggested that he may give British speedway a miss altogether?! If he does continue it might not be at KL unless Buster guarantees to build a stronger team. Looks like Newcastle will miss out. ps. back to Poole 2018 we could be close to a further announcement of the next rider - maybe by the end of the month?! Thanks Skidder Your knowledge & overhearing things from inside the Poole camp is always appreciated. Keep the snippets of info and potential rumours coming as we need things to keep our minds going on Poole Speedway for 2018 as those long cold nights draw ever closer ;-) My assumption (right or wrong) is Ellis but view that as one of the two Brits the BSPA will probably insist on, and still at 21 (22 in March 2018) he is one of our developing Brits. The kind of rider who would also fill the roll of a strong reserve if/when Woryna drifts our of that berth at probably the first GSA at end of May time ??. It would make it probably Woryna/Ellis/Kurtz/Holder Jr look quite good on the improving young rider front. Exciting to watch and plenty of food for thought on who the other 3 might be. All again dependent upon what the points limit is. Sure do hope they go for 45 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealFiend Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Lambert's interview in the SS last week suggested that he may give British speedway a miss altogether?! If he does continue it might not be at KL unless Buster guarantees to build a stronger team. Looks like Newcastle will miss out. ps. back to Poole 2018 we could be close to a further announcement of the next rider - maybe by the end of the month?! Ellis. Hopefully Shanes will be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Thanks Skidder Your knowledge & overhearing things from inside the Poole camp is always appreciated. Keep the snippets of info and potential rumours coming as we need things to keep our minds going on Poole Speedway for 2018 as those long cold nights draw ever closer ;-) My assumption (right or wrong) is Ellis but view that as one of the two Brits the BSPA will probably insist on, and still at 21 (22 in March 2018) he is one of our developing Brits. The kind of rider who would also fill the roll of a strong reserve if/when Woryna drifts our of that berth at probably the first GSA at end of May time ??. It would make it probably Woryna/Ellis/Kurtz/Holder Jr look quite good on the improving young rider front. Exciting to watch and plenty of food for thought on who the other 3 might be. All again dependent upon what the points limit is. Sure do hope they go for 45 points. If there are to be either 10,11 or 12 teams in the top league as is being rumoured for next year, then I can't see the points limit being any higher than 42! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 If there are to be either 10,11 or 12 teams in the top league as is being rumoured for next year, then I can't see the points limit being any higher than 42! Even 42 is a bit optimistic. This year it was, in real terms, about 37. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 If there are to be either 10,11 or 12 teams in the top league as is being rumoured for next year, then I can't see the points limit being any higher than 42! If the top riders do not return from Europe I can see the limit being lower than 42, so those clubs signing riders now need to just be a little careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 None of the Holders will be at Poole next season I just feel jack holder will not be at poole next season may be wrong of coarse None of the Holders will be at Poole next season I just feel jack holder will not be at poole next season may be wrong of coarse None of the Holders will be at Poole next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 So some (or a few) think no Holders will be back next season. I would hope Jack is given at least another season (if he agrees to ride in UK), as I think would be crazy not to have such a potential talent in the team. So playing the 42 points limit, how about the flwg (in no particular order. Also taking new GSA came out today. B Kurtz 8.08 Ellis 5.56 Woryna 4.65 Shanes 2.95 Holder 5.82 Total 27.06 Leaves 14.94 points. Now depending on what the Poles do for 2018, and if they relax rules a little, and we got to fixed nights in Uk plus maybe have a 10/12 team league. You could get Milik at 5.67 - Janowski (who probably wont be World Champ this year) 8.97 = 14.64 combined. Or Holder Snr 7.16. Hans Andersen on 7.75 is a fair av but other than say with Milik would leave limited option on a true number 1. Of course still have Kyle Newman (now 4.86) who if you replaced Shanes with would drop the balance to 13.03. Of course this is just opinion and playing the 42 point limit game. Now if its 45 it opens up much better options on H/L. We shall see. Of course a lot will also depend on IF any of the top guys want to come to UK next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I hope Shanes will be back, he has had a terrific season, a real battler and has bags of potential. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I hope Shanes will be back, he has had a terrific season, a real battler and has bags of potential. i would hope so to love watching james go round excitting to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 i would hope so to love watching james go round excitting to watch His overtake on Mitchell Davey after messing up was amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Thanks Skidder Your knowledge & overhearing things from inside the Poole camp is always appreciated. Keep the snippets of info and potential rumours coming as we need things to keep our minds going on Poole Speedway for 2018 as those long cold nights draw ever closer ;-) Yes I hate it when people like Skidder post interesting thoughts and opinions or give us things to chat about. I'd much prefer it if he's spend his time being arrogant and making abusive remarks, screaming his opinion on every page of the forum like Gavan. What this forum needs is less people like Skidder and more people like Gavan. Then we could just have one massive season long argument in which we all try to show off who has the biggest penis and belittle whomever doesn't agree with us! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Yes I hate it when people like Skidder post interesting thoughts and opinions or give us things to chat about. I'd much prefer it if he's spend his time being arrogant and making abusive remarks, screaming his opinion on every page of the forum like Gavan. What this forum needs is less people like Skidder and more people like Gavan. Then we could just have one massive season long argument in which we all try to show off who has the biggest penis and belittle whomever doesn't agree with us! Sometimes I think. WHY??? did I join the BSF nearly one year ago having viewed it online for a few months prior. For sure it seems to be heavily populated by idiots who seem to have nothing better to do all day/night but rip the backside out of each other to the degree it even gets nasty. Appreciate some of it is light hearted ;-) but there are too many pages of absolute drivel from people who have no real interest in what the topic is about rather than contributing positively or for that matter negatively to an opinion relative to the topic. I think I have posted some thought provoking posts on the Poole team for both this year and also next year, yet a lot seem to want to have no input or sensible opinion on what the topic is. I welcome others ideas on whether they agree/disagree but at least plenty should post something that is positive to the forum topic which at least cultivates interest in the subject. This Topic is Poole 2018 but too many of the usual suspects contribute "Jack S**t" to the topic itself wanting to participate in meaningless B.S which most of us sensible contributors really don't want to see or get involved in. All I say as a contributor is on a Poole 2018 topic, lets keep the contributions to exactly that. Agree or disagree with my ideas of a team for 2018 and I certainly welcome others ideas on who they would like or maybe even expect to see in 2018. As for the non related crap and back biting/sarcasm and pure nastiness I would ask them to shove it where the sun doesn't shine maybe on some other topic more suited to their negative contributions. Apologies to those who at least contribute posts of interest incl the likes of Gavan who at least voices opinion even as a non Poole Supporter. At least a good chunk of what he says in relation to riders etc makes sense, even if I don't always agree with all of them. There are times when I think, what's the point. I really want to keep contributing to a topic that mean something to me. That may incl some of the Southern Clubs Prem Clubssuch as Rye House/Somerset and Swindon if I have something interesting (imo) to contribute which won't be often as my main team interest is Poole. I enjoy the Poole Topics as I like Poole and want to see and contribute positive or sensible opinions and share with others likewise. As for all the other B.S. Please - Park it elsewhere ;-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Now depending on what the Poles do for 2018, and if they relax rules a little, and we got to fixed nights in Uk plus maybe have a 10/12 team league. You don't want much, do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 We can but live in hope ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 We can but live in hope ;-) Amen to that. When all hope has vanished, we can pack our bags (you can tell I'm a Bees supporter can't you? BTW one of those 10/12 in the league next year is Coventry, right?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Amen to that. When all hope has vanished, we can pack our bags (you can tell I'm a Bees supporter can't you? BTW one of those 10/12 in the league next year is Coventry, right?) Make that 11/13 Clubs as I miscalculated ;-) Honestly and as a supporter of Speedway since 1970 in my mid teems. I would love to see Coventry back but as a viable club with sensible Promoters/owners running in a decent stadium. It was a sad loss to see them go as they did and indicative of what's been going on in the Sport for some time. I have fond memories of their visit to the likes of Hackney/White City/Ipswich and Poole over the last 47 years. More recent years the Poole v Coventry fixture was a real grudge fixture for some but in a good way. Lets really hope we see them again soon one day. Speedway needs it what I would call good traditional clubs with long histories. I have seen too many go over the years incl London Clubs I used to visit for years such as Hackney/White City/West Ham/Wimbledon. Some have got used to success over recent years. You should have tried to be a Hackney supporter in First Div - Years on no success but always good races seeing genuine WW stars of the era. Only when they dropped a div and became Hackney Kestrels did we finally see a Champ and Cup win. Unfortunately the Hawks while much loved never managed it :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealFiend Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 If Jack Holder returns then Chris has to come to. Noddy needs to guide Jack along at Poole imo. Brady, Jack H, C. Holder, Ellis, Woryna & Shanes and one other. Hans or Magic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 If Jack Holder returns then Chris has to come to. Noddy needs to guide Jack along at Poole imo. Brady, Jack H, C. Holder, Ellis, Woryna & Shanes and one other. Hans or Magic? I am still a big Chris Holder fan. He has had a difficult couple of years but showed that with engines working properly he can still perform as in the last GP. I think at just over 7 points GSA he is well worth being back on his ritual home track. I think its been a strange old year for a lot of the top riders. Too many of the top guys have had engine tuning problems with lots having inconsistent meetings around Europe. There was talk about Johns having tuning issues with engines he produced due to a spares issue on a particular part if I remember form earlier this season. For sure Chris has had issues finding the right set up. Look at how Zagar has suddenly turned things around the last month or so having finally got the right set up. It shows that when you have the right equipment i.e just look at Holder Jr performances on Hancock engine when riding for Torun as Hancock was crocked for the season. If Chris can get his engines sorted and tuned properly then that 7.16 av may look a bargain. Especially if it also allows Matt Ford to sign a Janowski or Milik on top. Or even as you say Hans Andersen. Again and I keep beating on about it. That points limit has a big bearing I think on Matts plans as I am sure he would want it as high as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I would love to see Coventry back but as a viable club with sensible Promoters/owners running in a decent stadium. You DO want a lot don't you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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