Gavan Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 I've only seen Drabik the once, in that u-21 meeting, and he looked insanely good He is and is the next big star of the Polish conveyor belt....to say Woryna is as good is basically rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) A great signing for the club and with his grandad Antoni being a really popular rider for the club it was always on the cards that Kasper would ride for the Pirates.When i saw him last year he really impressed me and he certainly has gone up two notches this year in his performances.His consistency is his problem crashes (ect) but he can iron that out Drabik is the next Pole to hit the bigtime a Future GP rider but Woryna is a very good rider in his own right.The Pirates with Holder,Kurtz,Shanes,Woryna have a good youthful look about them the future looks good. Edited August 19, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) He is and is the next big star of the Polish conveyor belt....to say Woryna is as good is basically rubbish I don't want to say anything other than the few times I've seen Woryna, he's not been as good as the once I've seen Drabik, but I've not seen either enough to judge them, Kacper is still a big potential for the future though still, just not as much as Maksym? He's still only 20 afterall... I'm excited to see Maksym Drabik again then, are there any other meetings I can watch him in other than the first round of the u-21 championship, thanks... I hope his namesake, ginger Kacper gets a team place too, I love his style, he seems like a tough but fair rider Edited August 19, 2017 by Dandelion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Wow you would think by the over reaction on here that Woryna is going to come in and add 2 or 3 points to his average and become a world beater lol His average has increased in Poland because he has been riding against reserves for Rybnik. The reserves in the Polish league are not up to much so he has been racking up 12-13 points a meeting easily. I would say he will do well to get a 6 point average over here. As for Shovlar he is just spouting his usual rubbish. Drabik is different class to Woryna way ahead in terms of performance. Lambert quite clearly is also some way ahead of Woryna to. Woryna is on a par with Smektala and Kubera. Put Dan Bewley in a race with Woryna over here and my money would be on Bewley Musielek has been scoring heavily in the heat leader role for the same team Decent signing for Poole on his average but its nice to see the Poole fans going overboard like they did with KK and Klindt and how did that turn out lol Bit of a weird post from you to be honest Gavan. Klindt was a brilliant signing... so not really sure what you mean by that. And I don't see any Pirates fans going overboard? Where do you get these things from? British speedway will be lucky to have more than 1 GP rider next year. Our expectations of a great signing have changed drastically. The new "great signings" are these young foreigners that actually want to ride over here. No older than our young Brits, but with greater racing experience, financial backing and from a winning pedigree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Bit of a weird post from you to be honest Gavan. Klindt was a brilliant signing... so not really sure what you mean by that. And I don't see any Pirates fans going overboard? Where do you get these things from? British speedway will be lucky to have more than 1 GP rider next year. Our expectations of a great signing have changed drastically. The new "great signings" are these young foreigners that actually want to ride over here. No older than our young Brits, but with greater racing experience, financial backing and from a winning pedigree. Agree totally if the likes of Smektala, Kubera, venture over here to get experience that has to be good for us the spectator.I know Britain is way down the pecking order now but those riders named will improve as riders certainly if they have to master our more technical tracks.Musielak is a great example at Wolves he struggled did well away but that experienced gained certainly has made him improve as a rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Woryna is a good signing for Poole and I think with a bit more experience and guidance will become a lot more consistent ...as for comparisons to Drabik a little bit unfair as to me they are very much different propositions with Max having a more tidier compact style and Woryna a bit less so but very much an entertaining exciting rider .There has been a lot of extra pressure put on Drabik previously which I think has led to too much expectation whereas Woryna has gone under the radar somewhat maybe a bit like Wozniak this season but in some ways these are all fairly close to each other in standard and I guess you can throw Musielak back into that equation now ..sometimes you can have too many prospects and each season they will probably keep jumping up and down the order! Good signing and I disagree with Gavan with his dismissal of adding 2-3 points on his average with his mentality and confidence this year I expect him to at least attain a 7 plus average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Woryna is a good signing for Poole and I think with a bit more experience and guidance will become a lot more consistent ...as for comparisons to Drabik a little bit unfair as to me they are very much different propositions with Max having a more tidier compact style and Woryna a bit less so but very much an entertaining exciting rider .There has been a lot of extra pressure put on Drabik previously which I think has led to too much expectation whereas Woryna has gone under the radar somewhat maybe a bit like Wozniak this season but in some ways these are all fairly close to each other in standard and I guess you can throw Musielak back into that equation now ..sometimes you can have too many prospects and each season they will probably keep jumping up and down the order! Good signing and I disagree with Gavan with his dismissal of adding 2-3 points on his average with his mentality and confidence this year I expect him to at least attain a 7 plus average Depends where he rides. If he starts at reserve he should clean up, but at second string he will possibly struggle. If he gets a 7 average it will be due to him being a reserve. I also have said its a good signing but there seems to be a lot of pressure on him from some Poole fans already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 I think Hagonshocker has it spot on really, and yes dont forget Wozniak i have always liked him hope he is seen again on our tracks.Woryna for me can come in and hit the ground running and i think he can average seven plus i have a feeling he could be a real force around a PREPARED Wimborne Rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) Just a very small taste of Woryna last week riding against "reserves". Semi final. 38 mins 30 secs. Against "reserves" Doyle, Laguta and Holta. Final. Go to 40mins 47secs. Against "reserves" Madsen, Zmarzlik and Dudek. Gavan clearly doesn't watch Polish speedway to realise just how good young Woryna is. Talking about making himself look a pillock. Lol! Drabik also rides as a Polish reserve. Lambert rides in the Polish Third division. Polish reserves like Drabik and Woryna are used to replace top 5 team members during meetings all the time. Perhaps Gavan should watch last Sundays Ribnik v Torun Extraleague meeting where Woryna, (who Gavan thinks is nowhere near as good as Lambert) sees off the Torun team. Edited August 19, 2017 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 isnt it pathetic when so called fans are thinking of 2018 when 2017s only 2/3rds done,terrabal stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 isnt it pathetic when so called fans are thinking of 2018 when 2017s only 2/3rds done,terrabal stuff. If a superb signing for 2018 is officially announced we shouldn't debate it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANANAMAN Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 ruckerroo, on 19 Aug 2017 - 10:58 AM, said:isnt it pathetic when so called fans are thinking of 2018 when 2017s only 2/3rds done,terrabal stuff. True , but if your season is over you need something to look forward to . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Depends where he rides. If he starts at reserve he should clean up, but at second string he will possibly struggle. If he gets a 7 average it will be due to him being a reserve. I also have said its a good signing but there seems to be a lot of pressure on him from some Poole fans already No, you just don't like Poole fans being happy and positive. Whenever they are about something you always seem quick to shoot it down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Just a very small taste of Woryna last week riding against "reserves". Semi final. 38 mins 30 secs. Against "reserves" Doyle, Laguta and Holta. Final. Go to 40mins 47secs. Against "reserves" Madsen, Zmarzlik and Dudek. Gavan clearly doesn't watch Polish speedway to realise just how good young Woryna is. Talking about making himself look a pillock. Lol! Drabik also rides as a Polish reserve. Lambert rides in the Polish Third division. Polish reserves like Drabik and Woryna are used to replace top 5 team members during meetings all the time. Perhaps Gavan should watch last Sundays Ribnik v Torun Extraleague meeting where Woryna, (who Gavan thinks is nowhere near as good as Lambert) sees off the Torun team. I watch loads of Polish speedway thanks troll Ive also said he is a good signing.........................but its one thing riding well in Poland lets see how he gets on over here. The way you are going on you have him being your number one!! So in Poland he can the odd time beat the big guns well riders do that over here all the time. Lets see what equipment he brings..............lets see how he goes on British tracks this time around. No, you just don't like Poole fans being happy and positive. Whenever they are about something you always seem quick to shoot it down. No nothing wrong with being happy and positive and ive said its a good signing whats wrong with that???? Some Poole fans are expecting him to be an 8 point rider, im merely pointing out that thats a bit to much. If a superb signing for 2018 is officially announced we shouldn't debate it? You should..........i mean we had pages and pages on how good the signings of KK and Klindt were and anyone that dared disagree was shot down in flames by the usual suspects..........good job both KK and Klindt are firing in the big scores so you can win the league.........i mean it could be worse your promoter could have brought in Kennett or Lahti! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 In my opinion a top signing for Poole and I would say a 7 point average is a reasonable target, Kurtz has achieved a 8 point average and I would say Woryna could be as good. Don't know what Gavan is going on about with Klindt he was a great signing and injury free could also have achieved a 7. KK well fair point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 with so much uncertainty in poland,uk and sweden re rules and regs for 2018 i find this thread a little boring,its still summer 17 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) with so much uncertainty in poland,uk and sweden re rules and regs for 2018 i find this thread a little boring,its still summer 17 Then the answer is don't read and come and debate on this thread. Simple! Edited August 19, 2017 by Steve Shovlar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Expecting 'exciting' signings and the riders to perform to their expectations are 2 very different things. As most will be performing in Poland and Sweden - if allowed then once again the UK will be a sideshow for riders not wanting to use best engines or indeed avoid injury and missing out on lucrative contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 They're still both very good riders, but so is Robert... Exactly, which was my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) Expecting 'exciting' signings and the riders to perform to their expectations are 2 very different things. As most will be performing in Poland and Sweden - if allowed then once again the UK will be a sideshow for riders not wanting to use best engines or indeed avoid injury and missing out on lucrative contracts. Woryna doesn't ride in Sweden at this time. And to be honest watching it on Premier, it doesn't look like it is dripping in cash. In fact I would go as far as to say with the riders in the Swedish league, it looks completely unsustainable. If Poland insist that riders can only ride in one other country then the UK may well be the place for young Polish riders to try to head to gain experience. Edited August 19, 2017 by Steve Shovlar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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