keef robin Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Doyle has to be in the Swindon Legends section certainly in the top 10 riders ever to wear a Robins racejacket.Briggs,Crump,Ashby,Adams,Doyle,Kilby,Broadbanks,Autrey, Zagar ,Petersen.(no order).If he wins the WC and i think he will he will jump the quew and will only be behind Briggo in the immortals. My top 7 same as yours, Wardy also brilliant, and Nilsen was very good. Andersen super skipper in 2012 champions side. Heat 15 last night was a superb race, even though nothing at stake, a great night's entertainment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 My top 7 same as yours, Wardy also brilliant, and Nilsen was very good. Andersen super skipper in 2012 champions side. Heat 15 last night was a superb race, even though nothing at stake, a great night's entertainment Ward well i was honoured to see him ride for only a few months for the Robins he was oozing class all those you named spot on "beefy have to give Peter Moore/ George White a mention to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Doyle has to be in the Swindon Legends section certainly in the top 10 riders ever to wear a Robins racejacket.Briggs,Crump,Ashby,Adams,Doyle,Kilby,Broadbanks,Autrey, Zagar ,Petersen.(no order).If he wins the WC and i think he will he will jump the quew and will only be behind Briggo in the immortals. Are you going by Riders ability who rode for Swindon then? I wouldn't call Scott Autrey a Swindon 'Legend'...definitely an Exeter Legend....or Zagar, Doyle, and Petersen. I'd agree with Briggs, Phil Crump, Lee Adams, Martin Ashby, Bob Kilby, Mike Broadbanks...but would add to that, Geoff Bouchard, Malcolm Holloway, Brian Karger, Jimmy Nilsen, Ian Williams, Neil Street...and even Andrew Silver over the three I mentioned. 'Legend' to me, means riders who have ridden for a team for a longer period of time, but also have achieved respect amongst all speedway fans. I don't think Doyle even has that at Poole or Somerset where he's ridden just as much as he has for Swindon. Perhaps I'm in a minority in feeling that, but from other Speedway fans I've spoken too, I've not heard the love and respect for Doyle as you do other Speedway 'Legends'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Are you going by Riders ability who rode for Swindon then? I wouldn't call Scott Autrey a Swindon 'Legend'...definitely an Exeter Legend....or Zagar, Doyle, and Petersen. I'd agree with Briggs, Phil Crump, Lee Adams, Martin Ashby, Bob Kilby, Mike Broadbanks...but would add to that, Geoff Bouchard, Malcolm Holloway, Brian Karger, Jimmy Nilsen, Ian Williams, Neil Street...and even Andrew Silver over the three I mentioned. 'Legend' to me, means riders who have ridden for a team for a longer period of time, but also have achieved respect amongst all speedway fans. I don't think Doyle even has that at Poole or Somerset where he's ridden just as much as he has for Swindon. Perhaps I'm in a minority in feeling that, but from other Speedway fans I've spoken too, I've not heard the love and respect for Doyle as you do other Speedway 'Legends'. LEGEND on riding ability only, i certainly respect Doyle and it is worth paying 17 quid just to see him strut his stuff.Over the years us Budgie fans have been blessed with in/out superstar no 1s my prediction is Doyle will jump to no 2 behind Briggo as the greatest Robin ever.??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Have they reduced the banking on the corners at Blunsdon?...it certainly looks like it. It was noticeable how much the riders can really attack bends 3 and 4 and try to make passing moves...but the opposite on bends 1 and 2. I know it's downhill on the home straight....and it was with a breeze behind...but I've never witnessed riders at Blunsdon struggle around bends 1 and 2 so much. A dip into bend 1 also seems to have formed. Leading to many of the riders drifting wide, having to lock up or even get out of shape. I agree with what was said before about the track preparation...it was excellent. It occurred to me how important it was to get a decent start at Blunsdon...I can't recall seeing so many restarts before there. Enjoyed watching the new Pole adapt...reminded me a little of Renat Gaforov. As for Doyle...obviously got fast machinery, but imo, shouldn't be in the same sentence as Leigh Adams, who was different class in many ways. ;-) It does seem to be the case that something has happened to bends 1 and 2. It is the case that riders using the outside of bend 2, the bit that Killer used to ride right next to the fence, has lost its speed and grip and that now riders are cutting back and finding a faster line on the inside. Apart from that it was a good meeting, especially watching Jason back to form getting a max but all the others put in good performances. I am a little surprised that Adam did not score more from reserve but I appreciate the exclusion did not help him. The team seems now to have a more balanced look with jason, Nick and David putting in good scores, Tobi and BWD scoring a decent 6 or 7 and the reserves going ok. We have now won 7 out of the last 7 meetings but many need to attend next week to roar as we see off those pirates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 It does seem to be the case that something has happened to bends 1 and 2. It is the case that riders using the outside of bend 2, the bit that Killer used to ride right next to the fence, has lost its speed and grip and that now riders are cutting back and finding a faster line on the inside. Apart from that it was a good meeting, especially watching Jason back to form getting a max but all the others put in good performances. I am a little surprised that Adam did not score more from reserve but I appreciate the exclusion did not help him. The team seems now to have a more balanced look with jason, Nick and David putting in good scores, Tobi and BWD scoring a decent 6 or 7 and the reserves going ok. We have now won 7 out of the last 7 meetings but many need to attend next week to roar as we see off those pirates. I agree, the whole of bends 1&2 seem to be ridden completely differently to years past. Perhaps it's the bikes and not the track? It was interesting to read Toby's comments about Swindon being a 'tight track'...god help him at smaller tracks then. Saying you have to ride the middle of the track as the dirt moves outside. Which as you have noted...there doesn't seem to be any advantage anymore going round the outside...perhaps only on bends 3 and 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Swindon's track is tight, long straights into sharp/tight bends, always has been. Obvs nowhere near as tight as Wolves, Eastbourne & Lakeside but it can be a challenge. He will be comparing that to the open track of Poland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 I agree, the whole of bends 1&2 seem to be ridden completely differently to years past. Perhaps it's the bikes and not the track? It was interesting to read Toby's comments about Swindon being a 'tight track'...god help him at smaller tracks then. Saying you have to ride the middle of the track as the dirt moves outside. Which as you have noted...there doesn't seem to be any advantage anymore going round the outside...perhaps only on bends 3 and 4. Having thought about bend 2, it is strange because a couple of times this season one or two riders have stormed round the outside of bend 2 and have overtaken those on a tighter line. I will speak to a couple of the riders and see if they can give me a valid reason for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Swindon's track is tight, long straights into sharp/tight bends, always has been. Obvs nowhere near as tight as Wolves, Eastbourne & Lakeside but it can be a challenge. He will be comparing that to the open track of Poland. Oh for sure, I agree...but it is probably one of the less tight tracks in the UK...that was my point, which I didn't put across very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 I may have misread what you put in fairness Oh for sure, I agree...but it is probably one of the less tight tracks in the UK...that was my point, which I didn't put across very well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Have they reduced the banking on the corners at Blunsdon?...it certainly looks like it. It was noticeable how much the riders can really attack bends 3 and 4 and try to make passing moves...but the opposite on bends 1 and 2. I know it's downhill on the home straight....and it was with a breeze behind...but I've never witnessed riders at Blunsdon struggle around bends 1 and 2 so much. A dip into bend 1 also seems to have formed. Leading to many of the riders drifting wide, having to lock up or even get out of shape. I agree with what was said before about the track preparation...it was excellent. It occurred to me how important it was to get a decent start at Blunsdon...I can't recall seeing so many restarts before there. Enjoyed watching the new Pole adapt...reminded me a little of Renat Gaforov. As for Doyle...obviously got fast machinery, but imo, shouldn't be in the same sentence as Leigh Adams, who was different class in many ways. ;-) I did say Doyle reminded me of Adams for a second or two! That said, Doyle is more likely to become a GP world champion. Something the little master unfortunately was never able to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Another great win for the Rockinest ones Six different Robins got a heat win at Poole, followed by five last night. Such a shame we won't be able to keep this young side together for future seasons ! Keep it up Swindon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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