Sidney the robin Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) I am quarter of the way through this book what a terrific read certainly on par with the Backtrack books and of course they were all superb.Bob i was a big fan of one of my favourite riders along with Briggo and later Holloway and at the time you did not realise how good a rider he was. This book really brings that home to you the pictures also are superb my favourite is Kilb as the Exeter no 1 destroying Briggo at the Abbey no mean feat the book brings back happy childhood memories. Edited July 16, 2017 by Sidney the robin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 I am quarter of the way through this book what a terrific read certainly on par with the Backtrack books and of course they were all superb.Bob i was a big fan of one of my favourite riders along with Briggo and later Holloway and at the time you did not realise how good a rider he was. This book really brings that home to you the pictures also are superb my favourite is Kilb as the Exeter no 1 destroying Briggo at the Abbey no mean feat the book brings back happy childhood memories. Nice words mate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Must get my copy. Will always remember Bob's contribution as a 'Rebel' when he rode for Oxford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Remember when Killer rode for Swindon's arch rivals. They asked him to list 3 teams he wished to ride for. He wrote...Swindon, Swindon, Swindon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) Remember when Killer rode for Swindon's arch rivals. They asked him to list 3 teams he wished to ride for. He wrote...Swindon, Swindon, Swindon.Didnt like him riding for Oxford just didnt seem right nice to see him ride of course but it was strange.Going to Exeter like Crash got him out of Briggos shadow and he was a in/out top class no 1 beating the likes of Mauger,Olsen,Briggs along the way.When you think of Kilb have a look back at his testimonial line up top class and the crowd that was there that just showed how much respect he had from riders and fans he was a one off. Edited July 18, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Didnt like him riding for Oxford just didnt seem right nice to see him ride of course but it was strange.Going to Exeter like Crash got him out of Briggos shadow and he was a in/out top class no 1 beating the likes of Mauger,Olsen,Briggs along the way.When you think of Kilb have a look back at his testimonial line up top class and the crowd that was there that just showed how much respect he had from riders and fans he was a one off. Yes Swindon legend, Ferndale Road lad, his son Lee is nice guy. Wish I had seen the 67 side, first meeting on moving from London, a Dons fan,1968 Swindon beat Belle Vue 56-22, Kilbs and Briggo max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Yes Swindon legend, Ferndale Road lad, his son Lee is nice guy. Wish I had seen the 67 side, first meeting on moving from London, a Dons fan,1968 Swindon beat Belle Vue 56-22, Kilbs and Briggo max.I never see the 67 side "beefy but have this Swindon Robins 67 side memorabilia item with all the autographs of the riders my uncle gave it to me.My only gripe is i have one missing Peter Jackson i so wish i could get it.Going back to the Abbey "beefy did you go to the England v New Zealand test match where Kilb got 16 (beaten twice by Briggo) and Briggs got a 18 point max.?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 I never see the 67 side "beefy but have this Swindon Robins 67 side memorabilia item with all the autographs of the riders my uncle gave it to me.My only gripe is i have one missing Peter Jackson i so wish i could get it.Going back to the Abbey "beefy did you go to the England v New Zealand test match where Kilb got 16 (beaten twice by Briggo) and Briggs got a 18 point max.?? No, I went to GB v Sweden 68, 12000 official crowd, but hundreds climbed in. Stopped watching speedway around 72, then had 32 year break, still lovin it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) No, I went to GB v Sweden 68, 12000 official crowd, but hundreds climbed in. Stopped watching speedway around 72, then had 32 year break, still lovin it!Were you asleep for 32 years?😂😂 why the gap puzzling did you fall out of love with the sport i did in the nineties. Edited July 18, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) Were you asleep for 32 years? why the gap puzzling did you fall out of love with the sport i did in the nineties. Yep...just got bored with it, went to Workington in 2004 and got back into it. Edited July 18, 2017 by beefy keefy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Strange how so many seemed to have a break I only went now again between about 82 and 98. I only started going in 75 so had 7 years full on which is no way near the nearly 20 years since I returned to the sport. Trouble is I can remember more about them first 7 years than the past 20 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Strange how so many seemed to have a break I only went now again between about 82 and 98. I only started going in 75 so had 7 years full on which is no way near the nearly 20 years since I returned to the sport. Trouble is I can remember more about them first 7 years than the past 20 years Early signs of dementia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Never stopped going but i did get bored in the early nineties went to home meetings only like now apart from the odd meeting here and there .Jason Crump got me interested again when he started up on a 2.00 point average still enjoy it now but not as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Early signs of dementia Maybe, can't really remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) Never stopped going but i did get bored in the early nineties went to home meetings only like now apart from the odd meeting here and there .Jason Crump got me interested again when he started up on a 2.00 point average still enjoy it now but not as much. The winter of 1992 was the beginning of the end for me (started going in 1972) really although I continued to attend mostly home meetings until 2003. The supposed pay structure was introduced for the 1993 season and the promotion at Oxford felt that they couldn't offer Hans what he felt he was worth within the pay 'restraints'...he eventually moved to Coventry who were able to meet his demands with improved sponsorship etc. Funny how the promotion at Coventry were able to meet his demands? Personally I felt that Hans was made a scapegoat by the then Oxford Promotion (Northern Sports and Kevin Hedderley in particular) as their other business interests were struggling and Cowley suffered accordingly. Edited July 19, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) The winter of 1992 was the beginning of the end for me (started going in 1972) really although I continued to attend mostly home meetings until 2003. The supposed pay structure was introduced for the 1993 season and the promotion at Oxford felt that they couldn't offer Hans what he felt he was worth within the pay 'restraints'...he eventually moved to Coventry who were able to meet his demands with improved sponsorship etc. Funny how the promotion at Coventry were able to meet his demands? Personally I felt that Hans was made a scapegoat by the then Oxford Promotion (Northern Sports and Kevin Hedderley in particular) as their other business interests were struggling and Cowley suffered accordingly. The nineties for me up until,Crump/Gollob arrived on the scene was not the best i never really took to Ricko so that made a difference.1998 until now has been ok i do HATE how the GP series calls the shots yet our league clubs are never compensated in a way our clubs are dictated to yet get nothing back .Its like me owning a corner shop having to shut down on certain days, yet get no compensation back the series is decent but it has totally screwed British speedway bigtime. Edited July 19, 2017 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Just received my copy...looks great. Saving it for my holiday reading! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 The nineties for me up until,Crump/Gollob arrived on the scene was not the best i never really took to Ricko so that made a difference.1998 until now has been ok i do HATE how the GP series calls the shots yet our league clubs are never compensated in a way our clubs are dictated to yet get nothing back .Its like me owning a corner shop having to shut down on certain days, yet get no compensation back the series is decent but it has totally screwed British speedway bigtime.Not convinced the GP series is the main issue. I'd say the Polish and Swedish leagues are the main problem,without them the top riders would all still be riding in GB and the only impact of GPs would have been to remove a number of Saturday nights from the British calendar.If British speedway was presented like the gps and of the same quality a lot of issues would also disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Not convinced the GP series is the main issue. I'd say the Polish and Swedish leagues are the main problem,without them the top riders would all still be riding in GB and the only impact of GPs would have been to remove a number of Saturday nights from the British calendar. If British speedway was presented like the gps and of the same quality a lot of issues would also disappear. My gripe is why does British speedway not get some sort of compensation from the series? it does affect our speedway programme.Also most of the series is decent it should be it is the cream of our sport and yes the series does put our sport across well in a good light.But overall has the sport really benefitted from the series or just individual people i think the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 My gripe is why does British speedway not get some sort of compensation from the series? it does affect our speedway programme.Also most of the series is decent it should be it is the cream of our sport and yes the series does put our sport across well in a good light.But overall has the sport really benefitted from the series or just individual people i think the latter.The FIM get a fee and that should be passed through to the respective countries. No idea what actually happens to that money.GP series is by far my favourite speedway, though obviously my nearest track being 10+ hours flight away makes a difference there - if I was attending the NSS each week I'm sure the Aces would be my number one focus. The GP series is though speedway as it should be- but agree there should be a better flow of income to federations and arguably riders as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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