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Jonathan in your opinion if there were only say two hundred fans at each meeting would sponsors still put the same amount of money in? Put another way, what's in it for sponsors, would fans voting with their feet and not turning up have any effect. How much power do sponsors have over clubs?

 

I know you may prefer not to answer, and I would understand that but fans are unlikely to get any info from other sources,

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Jonathan in your opinion if there were only say two hundred fans at each meeting would sponsors still put the same amount of money in? Put another way, what's in it for sponsors, would fans voting with their feet and not turning up have any effect. How much power do sponsors have over clubs?

 

I know you may prefer not to answer, and I would understand that but fans are unlikely to get any info from other sources,

if I owned a company and I sponsored Kings Lynn speedway I'd be fuming the actions of last Thursday dragging the company's name down with the club - I'd not be happy
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We need to get Roger Warnes back..... :party:

Are you sure about that, isn't he the main sponsor of Troy Batchelor? You know the whining Aussie who got injured on wednesday and has been a pain in the backside for many a year at kings Lynn?

Jonathan in your opinion if there were only say two hundred fans at each meeting would sponsors still put the same amount of money in? Put another way, what's in it for sponsors, would fans voting with their feet and not turning up have any effect. How much power do sponsors have over clubs?

 

I believe most sponsors in speedway do not sponsor for a ROI, they simply sponsor because they are fans who love the sport and are fortunate to have the money to do it. Therefore the amount of fans is irrelevant, however I do know they like to see their company name on TV and in news papers (often for personal gratification) so without fans will TV or the press want to show/report on speedway.

 

As I have said on another thread, speedway in my opinion is a pack of cards and it won't be long before one puff blows the whole lot down.... And that may be at the end of this season if no TV money is forthcoming for 2018.

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Are you sure about that, isn't he the main sponsor of Troy Batchelor? You know the whining Aussie who got injured on wednesday and has been a pain in the backside for many a year at kings Lynn?

 

Yeah.... Forgot about that..... :t:

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As I have said on another thread, speedway in my opinion is a pack of cards and it won't be long before one puff blows the whole lot down.... And that may be at the end of this season if no TV money is forthcoming for 2018.

 

I've thought that for a couple of years now.

Maybe it's best if the UK simply ban GP riders. go semi pro then maybe we can return to a bit of loyalty, interaction with fans and who knows more standardised engines and decent racing.

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I've thought that for a couple of years now.

Maybe it's best if the UK simply ban GP riders. go semi pro then maybe we can return to a bit of loyalty, interaction with fans and who knows more standardised engines and decent racing.

 

The only thing that has kept the mess going is the lump of money from sky, and as they say a phoenix will often rise from the ashes.

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The only thing that has kept the mess going is the lump of money from sky, and as they say a phoenix will often rise from the ashes.

 

And there we have it in a nutshell. I am sure that JC is correct about what has kept things going for the last 15 years. As for a new phoenix - can't see one unless it is BT and they are unlikely to be offering as much as Sky did - IF they offer anything.

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I've thought that for a couple of years now.

Maybe it's best if the UK simply ban GP riders. go semi pro then maybe we can return to a bit of loyalty, interaction with fans and who knows more standardised engines and decent racing.

It can go back to basics, train up youngsters, that if are really good can then join clubs abroad that want them. The sport can cost less because of standardised engines and highly tuned bikes etc can be banned. I have enjoyed watching the two lower leagues and would happily do that than no speedway. It may be the case that in a few years Poland loses its power and the restrictions about who can ride there might change.

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Sweden in decline Denmark similar and UK scrapping the bottom but Poland goes from strength to strength.

If there were a major drop in income then clubs would more than likely fold rather than try

and offer a watered down competition, in their and fans eyes.

Unlike the 1950's when speedway in the UK went down to 12 clubs (amazing I know) I can't see a revival that was the

Provincial league as the world has moved on and stadia that have closed couldn't afford to open.

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I just hope Rye can do what Poole did last week, keep themselves to themselves, keep out of any controversy, ride the track be it good or bad and pick up a few away points. I was intending to go but after what went on last week I will now follow it on the updates and probably go to Swindon on Thursday. Seems by not addressing this issue properly KL may have shot themselves in the foot as far as fans are concerned by sweeping it under the carpet and hoping it will blow over.

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Sweden in decline Denmark similar and UK scrapping the bottom but Poland goes from strength to strength.

If there were a major drop in income then clubs would more than likely fold rather than try

and offer a watered down competition, in their and fans eyes.

Unlike the 1950's when speedway in the UK went down to 12 clubs (amazing I know) I can't see a revival that was the

Provincial league as the world has moved on and stadia that have closed couldn't afford to open.

 

Yes the world has moved on from those "start again" days. I can't see a re-start getting off the ground if speedway does go under. So, if the turnstile income is truly important why does't Buster / BSPA take more notice of what supporters want or suggest? They should do a questionnaire to every paying fan who attends a match in September ( and not just be asked to listen to us on here ) before they make the big decisions at the AGM IF they hope to retain most of the existing fan base. IF they believe that fan's views are important and might just hold the key to declining crowds.

 

The BSPA have been "knowing best"for all of the time that the Sky money has been coming in and crowds have dropped during that time ( and clubs have closed ). They obviously don't "know best" or there would be 3 to 5,000 people attending everywhere every week.

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Holder and Batchelor will be in the Stars team against Rye House. The Lynn management are too weak to get rid of them.

Blimey,if every management got rid of every rider from their team for every misdemeanor there wouldn't be any riders left.I couldn't be there last week but by all accounts Batchelor must have had permission on injury grounds for Lynn to use the IRR.

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Blimey,if every management got rid of every rider from their team for every misdemeanor there wouldn't be any riders left.I couldn't be there last week but by all accounts Batchelor must have had permission on injury grounds for Lynn to use the IRR.

 

I really don't think it was a simple "misdemeanour" because it has left a number of fans who were there with little or no desire to go again and be put through something similar again. How many will stay away we do not know but the person who gives me lift was very miffed and talked of not going to go again. Speedway is a very hard habit to break ,but for all, including myself when you think what a lot of rubbish they offer you now - you do want to stay away.

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I just hope Rye can do what Poole did last week, keep themselves to themselves, keep out of any controversy, ride the track be it good or bad and pick up a few away points. I was intending to go but after what went on last week I will now follow it on the updates and probably go to Swindon on Thursday. Seems by not addressing this issue properly KL may have shot themselves in the foot as far as fans are concerned by sweeping it under the carpet and hoping it will blow over.

 

I doubt it, the luck doesn't seem to be with the Rockets, they could've done with those 4 points, similarly with the away points that Swindon got at Belle Vue. I expect the home riders to react with a big performance on Wednesday on what I expect to be a bald track!

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JC why not phone the old man and tell him he is making a total *^%$ up of it at Lynn and you will take it over and show him how it should be done.

 

Oh no, as he has said if the fans don't come then there is no Kings Lynn Speedway, hardly thinly disguised that comment now is it. If Buster was to put on a show that people wanted to see then the fans would be there. Sadly it seems he is stuck very much in the past.

 

So when Buster closes down Kings Lynn Speedway, make no mistake it will be the fault of the fans, and not where the real problem lies. Then again Buster cant be wrong, can he. Not one to admit to things like that,

 

Sad days at Saddlebow.

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JC why not phone the old man and tell him he is making a total *^%$ up of it at Lynn and you will take it over and show him how it should be done.

 

Oh no, as he has said if the fans don't come then there is no Kings Lynn Speedway, hardly thinly disguised that comment now is it. If Buster was to put on a show that people wanted to see then the fans would be there. Sadly it seems he is stuck very much in the past.

 

So when Buster closes down Kings Lynn Speedway, make no mistake it will be the fault of the fans, and not where the real problem lies. Then again Buster cant be wrong, can he. Not one to admit to things like that,

 

Sad days at Saddlebow.

of all the years of supporting the Stars I've never known things to be in such a sad state and I include the last season Waggy was in charge in that statement- bridge building between club and fans and riders and fans should have started last Friday morning here we are just over 48 hours before our next home meeting and we've had one feeble statement - an update on Dale would be a starting point an update on Lewis would also be good -and lastly a large slice of humble pie should be coming out of the club . Just why should fans turn up on Wednesday? Give us a reason Kings Lynn Speedway why should we spend £17 on you ?
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Blimey,if every management got rid of every rider from their team for every misdemeanor there wouldn't be any riders left.I couldn't be there last week but by all accounts Batchelor must have had permission on injury grounds for Lynn to use the IRR.

 

You were fortunate that you never went last week. Many times I have wished I hadn't gone either. But before you make a stupid comment like the above, Lets imagine you had paid your fee and was there waiting for the meeting to continue. At one time we were leading by 6, but now because of our riders not wanting to race, we are now 6 points drift. The Mic man tells us the Ref is coming down from his box to sort out some of the rider's issues. Then we wait,....... and wait......... We hear nothing,....... but we witness Buster working flat-out during remedy work on the track. Over an hour passes and still no information. We, the fans can only wait around ,in the hope we can claw back those points we are adrift.

 

Eventually 75 mins after the last message, we are informed that the meeting will continue. It is another 5 mins later we are informed that Batchelor would not be riding again and that we could use IRR as a replacement.... Don't you think the fans should've been told of Batch missing before making them wait over an hour under false pretences. It truth we never had a hope n' hell of getting back those points, and had the fans been kept informed they could have made their own mind up whether to stay or go home....

 

So this misdemeanour was far more than that. It was the dirtiest, most underhanded, contempt to the fans I've ever witnessed....

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You were fortunate that you never went last week. Many times I have wished I hadn't gone either. But before you make a stupid comment like the above, Lets imagine you had paid your fee and was there waiting for the meeting to continue. At one time we were leading by 6, but now because of our riders not wanting to race, we are now 6 points drift. The Mic man tells us the Ref is coming down from his box to sort out some of the rider's issues. Then we wait,....... and wait......... We hear nothing,....... but we witness Buster working flat-out during remedy work on the track. Over an hour passes and still no information. We, the fans can only wait around ,in the hope we can claw back those points we are adrift.

 

Eventually 75 mins after the last message, we are informed that the meeting will continue. It is another 5 mins later we are informed that Batchelor would not be riding again and that we could use IRR as a replacement.... Don't you think the fans should've been told of Batch missing before making them wait over an hour under false pretences. It truth we never had a hope n' hell of getting back those points, and had the fans been kept informed they could have made their own mind up whether to stay or go home....

 

So this misdemeanour was far more than that. It was the dirtiest, most underhanded, contempt to the fans I've ever witnessed....

Now,now calm down,i wasn't on about the meeting in general.I was just saying about Batchelor's injury in that he must have been told not to race the rest of the meeting or Lynn would not have been able to use the IRR.I was replying to someone wanting rid of Batchelor for this.

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So Batchelor was injured was he, same as he had an E/F in The World team cup and was excluded for it. Injured that badly that he got changed, load up and f***** off home, no thought of staying to support his team then ? Not a bit of it. Batchelor for Batchelor. , anyway he needed to get home to get his bikes ready to ride of Swindon 22 hours later. Miracle healing and all that. Then you had Holder who wouldn't come out as he didn't fancy the track ( I would wager he would have been out there if it was a Grand Prix),

 

What I really don't understand is why someone like Buster is allowing the likes of these 2 Aussies to pee all over him ? Not many people get to do that to Buster.

 

The place is a mess. It will be interesting to see if the fans show Buster by voting with their feet. I know a few who certainly wont be there.

 

As for that half assed apology put out, which ever PR Company Buster is using he should sack them.

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of all the years of supporting the Stars I've never known things to be in such a sad state and I include the last season Waggy was in charge in that statement- bridge building between club and fans and riders and fans should have started last Friday morning here we are just over 48 hours before our next home meeting and we've had one feeble statement - an update on Dale would be a starting point an update on Lewis would also be good -and lastly a large slice of humble pie should be coming out of the club . Just why should fans turn up on Wednesday? Give us a reason Kings Lynn Speedway why should we spend £17 on you ?

 

One good reason to go would be to promise that such a thing will never happen again under his ownership. And another one would be to confirm that the club IS taking disciplinary action against Holder and giving Batchelor notice that he is on a final warning. But we are not going to get that are we?

It is not the first calamity this season and there have been too many track problems causing long delays for rectification in the last couple of years. Why should we trust Buster? It was a very different man who laboured to build up the club.

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