Fromafar Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 BEGINNING to think you are right. Premiership tracks bemoan the lack of meetings at time yet arrange some when the opposition is likely to be without key men. One has to wonder at times whether that is deliberate but surely those who pay to get in what to see full-strength teams whenever possible. Perhaps there were extenuating circumstances that I am unaware of, but why did Belle Vie go to Somerset on a Friday that clashed with the Danish Championship. Surely that could have been avoided or am I being naive? Its hard to figure out how they could mess up the fixture list so badly,Teams going weeks without meetings!!! Then still visiting Teams are still not full strength .You couldn't make it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 BEGINNING to think you are right. Premiership tracks bemoan the lack of meetings at time yet arrange some when the opposition is likely to be without key men. One has to wonder at times whether that is deliberate but surely those who pay to get in what to see full-strength teams whenever possible. Perhaps there were extenuating circumstances that I am unaware of, but why did Belle Vie go to Somerset on a Friday that clashed with the Danish Championship. Surely that could have been avoided or am I being naive? The fixture planning is shambolic and is one of the main causes for riders missing.The Leicester kings Lynn meeting though I think is a rare exception to that rule. Not sure Leicester could have foreseen that KL would ditch holder and batch and replace them with riders who would be unavailable, that Kai would make the euros or Lambert be injured. Or that such inadequate cover would be arranged. KL fault not Leicester's or the fixture planners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Think it is hard to put all the blame on Buster, he's working with a committee who stab him in the back at the blink of a eye.Self interest rules as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 STRONG statement from Buster Chapman and the BSPA regarding Peterborough's decision to release Jack Holder to race in Poland rather than here this afternoon. But one wonders what sanctions the BSPA can inflict upon the Peterborough management for blatantly ignoring the rules. I can recall many years ago when the SCB were strong and had Michael Limb as Chairman, he told me that discipline was easy to impose upon tracks when they were making buckets full of money and wouldn't risk losing their licence but almost impossible when any serious fine could cause them to shut their doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 STRONG statement from Buster Chapman and the BSPA regarding Peterborough's decision to release Jack Holder to race in Poland rather than here this afternoon. But one wonders what sanctions the BSPA can inflict upon the Peterborough management for blatantly ignoring the rules. I can recall many years ago when the SCB were strong and had Michael Limb as Chairman, he told me that discipline was easy to impose upon tracks when they were making buckets full of money and wouldn't risk losing their licence but almost impossible when any serious fine could cause them to shut their doors. That's true and anything imposed shouldn't punish the fans (the promoter seems very adept at that already). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 STRONG statement from Buster Chapman and the BSPA regarding Peterborough's decision to release Jack Holder to race in Poland rather than here this afternoon. But one wonders what sanctions the BSPA can inflict upon the Peterborough management for blatantly ignoring the rules. I can recall many years ago when the SCB were strong and had Michael Limb as Chairman, he told me that discipline was easy to impose upon tracks when they were making buckets full of money and wouldn't risk losing their licence but almost impossible when any serious fine could cause them to shut their doors. Surely it's also hypocritical, given Thorssel was allowed to skip an EL match for a rescheduled Polish match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 YOU could say that two wrongs don't make a right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 YOU could say that two wrongs don't make a right.I fully agree. My view is that both were wrong and noth riders should have copped a ban for witholding services or clubs punished if they allow it.But it is hypocritical and unfair to allow one - with facility- but condemn another. YOU could say that two wrongs don't make a right.I fully agree. My view is that both were wrong and noth riders should have copped a ban for witholding services or clubs punished if they allow it.But it is hypocritical and unfair to allow one - with facility- but condemn another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 It's got to the point for me now where I think we should finish the British season tomorrow , have a good rethink and start fresh in 2018 , at the moment it's just in a big downward spiral with damaging issues happening almost every week 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 It's got to the point for me now where I think we should finish the British season tomorrow , have a good rethink and start fresh in 2018 , at the moment it's just in a big downward spiral with damaging issues happening almost every week We say that every year, but it doesn't happen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) It's got to the point for me now where I think we should finish the British season tomorrow , have a good rethink and start fresh in 2018 , at the moment it's just in a big downward spiral with damaging issues happening almost every week THOSE sentiments, at least as far as the Premiership is concerned, were voiced in the Speedway Star office last week. Every year we suggest it cannot get any worse and yet it does. Edited August 6, 2017 by PHILIPRISING 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 I fully agree. My view is that both were wrong and noth riders should have copped a ban for witholding services or clubs punished if they allow it. But it is hypocritical and unfair to allow one - with facility- but condemn another. I fully agree. My view is that both were wrong and noth riders should have copped a ban for witholding services or clubs punished if they allow it. But it is hypocritical and unfair to allow one - with facility- but condemn another. Only one is subject to the rules of a visa. If your theory was law we would have to pardon all murderers because someone got off with a technicality in 1914. Whatever has happened in the past, now is the time to make a stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Only one is subject to the rules of a visa. If your theory was law we would have to pardon all murderers because someone got off with a technicality in 1914. Whatever has happened in the past, now is the time to make a stand.Don't understand the VISA comment?Your example doesn't really make sense, we are talking about an almost identical situation happening two weeks ago.generally if you have two identical cases goto court in a 2 week period you would expect the same verdict in both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Don't understand the VISA comment? Your example doesn't really make sense, we are talking about an almost identical situation happening two weeks ago.generally if you have two identical cases goto court in a 2 week period you would expect the same verdict in both? Do we actually know if the BSPA gave the ok for Thorsell?? Anyway perhaps they wouldn't have kicked off if it was only the one meeting, but it appears Ged has green lighted more than one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Don't understand the VISA comment? Your example doesn't really make sense, we are talking about an almost identical situation happening two weeks ago.generally if you have two identical cases goto court in a 2 week period you would expect the same verdict in both? They aren't the same, Thorsell has been with his Polish club all season, Holder hasn't. The visa might have stipulations that affect this situation? Irrespective of all that, it's time to stop this happening, we can do little about the past but we can certainly do something about the future. Even if our leagues have to be downgraded it would be better than teams turning up full of guests, R/R and NL riders, while their supposed regulars are appearing, elsewhere, you have to accept that riders might get injured but some other absences are not acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 BEGINNING to think you are right. Premiership tracks bemoan the lack of meetings at times yet arrange some when the opposition is likely to be without key men. One has to wonder at times whether that is deliberate but surely those who pay to get in want to see full-strength teams whenever possible. Perhaps there were extenuating circumstances that I am unaware of, but why did Belle Vue go to Somerset on a Friday that clashed with the Danish Championship. Surely that could have been avoided or am I being naive? Exactly. Lynn had to go to Somerset on a GP weekend without Holder. And BV go on a non-GP week when Bjerres not available. Why were the two not just swapped from the start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Anybody who criticises the Panthers after today's event is in denial. That was one of the best meetings I've ever attended. £20 for that many quality races. If every meeting was like that, the crowds would be huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Anybody who criticises the Panthers after today's event is in denial. That was one of the best meetings I've ever attended. £20 for that many quality races. If every meeting was like that, the crowds would be huge. You really don't understand what everyone is talking about do you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 You really don't understand what everyone is talking about do you That requires some form of intelligence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 If every meeting was like that, the crowds would be huge. Why? Were the burgers free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.