Tsunami Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) I didnt know that bit sorry Point I am making though is more people come if its cheaper.. It's a fallacy that lowering the admission by say 50%, means you will get over 100% increase in the gate levels. Edited August 2, 2017 by Tsunami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 It's a fallacy that lowering the admission by say 50%, means you will get over 50% increase in the gate levels. If you lower admission by 50% you need a 100% increase in gate levels to offset it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) It's a fallacy that lowering the admission by say 50%, means you will get over 50% increase in the gate levels. Yep we would down here. But if the league keeps dropping we will all be watching NDS eventually. Chapman needs a vote of no confidence. Edited August 2, 2017 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 I mentioned the good crowd at BV the other week when BT were there with the cameras, and wondered if it had been tried before - that is lower the price regularly to £10. The comment I got back was the crowds will be there for a few weeks then start to dwindle down to the die hards, so the club is worse off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 If you lower admission by 50% you need a 100% increase in gate levels to offset it you're back!?!? Did you spend the last couple of years recovering from meeting up with Sidney In all seriousness, welcome back, I for one have missed your postings. Hopefully the NSS has been enough to tempt you back to live speedway as well. It's a fallacy that lowering the admission by say 50%, means you will get over 50% increase in the gate levels. i dont think its even a fallacy, i don't think anyone belives it to be true. And as Oldace mentions you would need a 100% increase not a 50% increase. What it does show though is that speedway has the potential to significantly improve attendances, and that there is some element of price elasticity in terms of demand, at least on a short term basis. And people attending a 50% full stadium I would say are more likely to enjoy the experience and want to return than those attending a meeting with a 30% full stadium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 you're back!?!? Did you spend the last couple of years recovering from meeting up with Sidney In all seriousness, welcome back, I for one have missed your postings. Hopefully the NSS has been enough to tempt you back to live speedway as well. i dont think its even a fallacy, i don't think anyone belives it to be true. And as Oldace mentions you would need a 100% increase not a 50% increase. What it does show though is that speedway has the potential to significantly improve attendances, and that there is some element of price elasticity in terms of demand, at least on a short term basis. And people attending a 50% full stadium I would say are more likely to enjoy the experience and want to return than those attending a meeting with a 30% full stadium. I totally agree. The problem is getting more folk to attend. How you do that - I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 I totally agree. The problem is getting more folk to attend. How you do that - I don't know. A range of ways, most of which have been proposed on here countless times. And none of which, surpising as it may be, is continually diluting the product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 A range of ways, most of which have been proposed on here countless times. And none of which, surpising as it may be, is continually diluting the product. They would get one back if they got rid of Double Points wkha1. Actually they might get a few more to return if that happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 It's a fallacy that lowering the admission by say 50%, means you will get over 50% increase in the gate levels. you're correct, you wouldn't, 50 or 100, but you would get an increase and that would be something to build on this overall lack of income should be compensated by lowering costs - machinery, foreign travel, etc - big ask I know As I said once before Newcastle get around the same crowd as Blyth Spartans or Gateshead on a good run - they don't fly footballers in from all over Europe time to get real and accept where we are in the entertainment pecking order, you could take yr other half for a meal or pictures for less than 2 tix for Brough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 If you lower admission by 50% you need a 100% increase in gate levels to offset it Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 If there was any doubt then I think events this week have proved the answer is a no. Can't argue with the decision to sack Holder and Batchelor and I'll give him credit for standing up to them but the timing of it? To have the head of the BSPA acting in such a spiteful way is concerning, and the way Gomolski seems to have been treated is shocking and suggests he's completely untrustworthy also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Can't imagine the Holder and Batchelor situation was dealt with as it was without the agreement of at least the majority of the PL promoters. I think Chapman is one of the better people that have held the post over the past couple of decades having seen some of the others in action. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) time to get real and accept where we are in the entertainment pecking order, you could take yr other half for a meal or pictures for less than 2 tix for Brough Sounds to me like a good argument for keeping speedway admission prices at present levels and leaving the other half at home. Edited August 4, 2017 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Sounds to me like a good argument for keeping speedway admission prices at present levels and leaving the other half at home. how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Looking at the ongoing shambles at Leicester tonight, where the line ups are not known until the day of the meeting. I'd say superman couldn't save speedway in this country!. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Looking at the ongoing shambles at Leicester tonight, where the line ups are not known until the day of the meeting. I'd say superman couldn't save speedway in this country!. I thought Buster would be the right man to get speedway at least on a sure footing and start to build towards the future, I was wrong, in fact of anything its more of a shambles now than before so I don`t see Buster lasting after this years AGM. Thing is suitable people to take over and make the much needed changes aren`t exactly thick on the ground. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Can't imagine the Holder and Batchelor situation was dealt with as it was without the agreement of at least the majority of the PL promoters. I think Chapman is one of the better people that have held the post over the past couple of decades having seen some of the others in action. But we shouldn't have to imagine. At least we should know how and by who the decision to approve the new KL line up was made. The lack of transparency is shocking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 But we shouldn't have to imagine. At least we should know how and by who the decision to approve the new KL line up was made. The lack of transparency is shocking. Can't see how it would make much difference to the majority to be honest. Whoever did it would be slated by some and praised by others but the decision is already made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 He should step down now or be removed at the end of season conference by the other promoters who make up the BSPA. They should hire someone to oversee the sport or admit that it is just seeing out it's last days as a professional sport that has lost it's credibility. The appointment of Buster Chapman as Chairman of the BSPA has genuinely made things worse - that what it looks like from the outside at least. Bereft of sensible ideas that would tempt some old fans back and more new ones to give the sport a try. Nothing has happened , so far, on his watch , that improves speedway or shows it in a better light. It has not just been "shot in the foot" again it is writhing around in it's death throes. Thankfully no-one outside the sport hears of the latest insanities because the media ignores the existence of speedway, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Looking at the ongoing shambles at Leicester tonight, where the line ups are not known until the day of the meeting. I'd say superman couldn't save speedway in this country!. BEGINNING to think you are right. Premiership tracks bemoan the lack of meetings at times yet arrange some when the opposition is likely to be without key men. One has to wonder at times whether that is deliberate but surely those who pay to get in want to see full-strength teams whenever possible. Perhaps there were extenuating circumstances that I am unaware of, but why did Belle Vue go to Somerset on a Friday that clashed with the Danish Championship. Surely that could have been avoided or am I being naive? Edited August 6, 2017 by PHILIPRISING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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