mikebv Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) For someone who seemed to be hailed as the saviour of the sport when he got the job I think it's fair to say he hasn't exactly lived up to it. Nothing has changed, the sport is still in decline with no obvious plan to help and the same dodgy decisions are made especially in the NL where it seems there's a different rule for every day of the week. The farce at Kings Lynn this week should be properly investigated but how can it be when the head of the BSPA also owns that club? It always ends in that same old answer of needing someone independent to come in and run it. Ideally they would observe everything for a year and work on a plan to take things forward before taking over at the BSPA (if they haven't been frightened off in that time!) but there is clearly no chance of promoters happy to be told what to do by an outsider so everything will stay as it is. If it is true that certain riders refused to ride in that meeting then it is very poor that they seemingly have escaped without bans. It just sums everything up, you have a 16 year old kid in Jack Parkinson-Blackburn who was struggling in the Championship and quit Sheffield, probably in the heat of the moment, and he's given a ban for withholding his services meaning he also loses out on riding for Birmingham for a month. But here with senior riders deciding they've had enough halfway through a meeting creating another mess which will lose fans it gets pushed under the carpet and nothing will be said. One of Busters most laudable pledges when he took over was his mission to improve the integrity within the Sport, so I am sure riders walking out from meetings will be seen by him, quite correctly, as 100% totally unacceptable and there will be some severe disciplinary action taken against those responsible.. Just like there would be when this situation happens in all properly ran Sports... 😨😂 Edited July 16, 2017 by mikebv 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 The BIG problem with the Kings Lynn track is the excessive amount of clay in the track, This suits the stock cars but but not solo Speedway. It would appear that the stock cars are the money making side of Buster's business & that's why the track is prepared the way it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 There's loads of good promoting being done this season at different clubs. It's great to see it all being shown on twitter and facebook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 The BIG problem with the Kings Lynn track is the excessive amount of clay in the track, This suits the stock cars but but not solo Speedway. It would appear that the stock cars are the money making side of Buster's business & that's why the track is prepared the way it is! I think most people already know about the clay content but other tracks eg Scunthorpe, have a very heavy usage of all kinds of track racing and produce better racing than that. There are also claims that KL isn't as good for racing as it was several years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 The task is too big for him, and the rest of the promoting clan. It really needs someone totally neutral to come in and sort the whole mess out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 When a senior rider leads the call for a meeting to be stopped and refuses to appear on track, serious action is called for. I have this from someone who was in the pits last Thursday. I was on the terraces and I was ashamed of the sport I've followed all my life. I know about rider safety but I also know when riders have put themselves in danger by riding a track timidly. If every track has to be the same, we'll all be watching billiard tables with no shale. If a track is unsafe, it's the ref that makes the call to halt proceedings. Hang your heads in shame, those that let us all down last Thursday. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 I was delighted when Buster became chairman as I thought he would be the one to bring real change for good, he said in an interview in Speedway Star that he would throw away the rule book and start a new, sadly we are still waiting in fact of anything the rules are more confusing now than they were when Buster took over. I still believe he`s the right man, but how you bring significant change when you need the backing from the rest of the promoters is posing to be a problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 When a senior rider leads the call for a meeting to be stopped and refuses to appear on track, serious action is called for. I have this from someone who was in the pits last Thursday. I was on the terraces and I was ashamed of the sport I've followed all my life. I know about rider safety but I also know when riders have put themselves in danger by riding a track timidly. If every track has to be the same, we'll all be watching billiard tables with no shale. If a track is unsafe, it's the ref that makes the call to halt proceedings. Hang your heads in shame, those that let us all down last Thursday. maybe if the bikes weren't rockets (something fans don't give a toss about) then they could cope with less than perfect surfaces 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 maybe if the bikes weren't rockets (something fans don't give a toss about) then they could cope with less than perfect surfaces although that's not the answer to speedways problems there is a hell of a lot of truth in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 I just got the latest Backtrack magazine through the post yesterday and it lovely to see an action picture on the front cover showing an upright Weslake 4-valve in action - just bring those days back.....that would be a good start to getting speedway back on the right tracks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 I just got the latest Backtrack magazine through the post yesterday and it lovely to see an action picture on the front cover showing an upright Weslake 4-valve in action - just bring those days back.....that would be a good start to getting speedway back on the right tracks. 2 valve JAWA would be even better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 2 valve JAWA would be even better. You beat me to it. Well said Sir!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 I will settle for 2 valvers then - just bring them back. Racing was just as exciting for spectators, riders certainly looked in more control of the machine - just look at the likes of Zmarzlik, he definitely looks like hes hanging on for life. Roll on the revolution 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 I will settle for 2 valvers then - just bring them back. Racing was just as exciting for spectators, riders certainly looked in more control of the machine - just look at the likes of Zmarzlik, he definitely looks like hes hanging on for life. Roll on the revolution My views on this subject are well known. Speedway has never been the same since the advent of the 4-Valve Engine. It has changed things tremendously - and most certainly NOT for the better. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) Wrong thread. Edited July 16, 2017 by Lord Skid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 maybe if the bikes weren't rockets (something fans don't give a toss about) then they could cope with less than perfect surfaces I could be persuaded by such arguments. We could debate this back and forward but it would be a waste of time. Every form of motorsport spends endless funds on going faster. It's what competitors do. But as to the case in hand. No one has managed to beat Nicki Pedersen's track record of 57.6 set on 11th September 2002. Last Thursday we had a time of 58.06 set in heat 3 by Robert Lambert. My reaction was the usual, "The tracks too fast. We won't see good racing tonight". In the very next race we had the sight of a senior home rider, "flat tanking it" and finally "retiring". You tell me. If I see quality home riders setting (almost) record times and others giving up, what am I to think? My conclusion? Sometimes you have to attack the conditions that are put in front of you. If the track had been over watered or there was rain (beyond the Peter Kaye spitting) I might have a different view. The reaction from me and many home fans around me was "Get on with it". The impact of this debacle will certainly hit KL's income. Given the critical state of many track's profitability, it could end speedway at KL altogether. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Can't wait to see Jonathan Chapman's reply tho SCB's opening post. Not sure what you are expecting but I feel no desire to comment as if I say anything positive it will be seen as favouritism and anything negative will be taken like I have an axe to grind. I will however say that I am very saddened at the way Speedway in UK seems to have continued its downward trajectory. Ten years ago I had so much hope for it and believed it could go onto great things, but now watching from the outside I am 100% sure it has missed the boat and before long (when the TV money runs dry) the sport will be semi-pro at its best (something between National League and Championship). 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) Not sure what you are expecting but I feel no desire to comment as if I say anything positive it will be seen as favouritism and anything negative will be taken like I have an axe to grind. I will however say that I am very saddened at the way Speedway in UK seems to have continued its downward trajectory. Ten years ago I had so much hope for it and believed it could go onto great things, but now watching from the outside I am 100% sure it has missed the boat and before long (when the TV money runs dry) the sport will be semi-pro at its best (something between National League and Championship). So when the tv money does run out, which could be Oct this year, from what you are saying it seems the Premiership league will cease to exist. That would answer a few questions about certain things that seem to be happening. Edited July 16, 2017 by A ORLOV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 So when the tv money does run out, which could be Oct this year, from what you are saying it seems the Premiership league will cease to exist. That would answer a few questions about certain things that seem to be happening. I know the financial mechanics of running a team in every single league of British Speedway, and I can assure you that without TV money the quality of rider that teams can afford without wealthy backers is equal to second strings in the championship as heat leaders (or whatever league is set up to replace it). A few may try to front it out and prove top level speedway can exist without TV money but they will go bust by June or July. In addition to that if Championship and Premiership tried to amalgamate their would be a shortage of what we call second string riders so that means it would again push riders demands up. This years championship reserves could find themselves catapulted to stardom but I am not sure how many fans will come to watch them race. Overall summary: Pack of Cards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 but now watching from the outside Just pack yourself on the back you're not in there fighting to make speedway great. Your negative analysis is less than helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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