Shaleshifter Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Surprised that this thread has not been started yet. Monday sees the Pirates travel to Monmore Green which has not been a happy hunting ground lately. Poole will have new Signing Timo Lahti making his debut in place of Nicolai klindt who's season is over due to his knee injury. I don't see Poole getting anything out of Monday's meeting but you never know. Paul Starke has hit form at reserve so will be key in the battles with the Wolves reserves. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 I think maybe Wolves will win this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) 51-39ish. Not near a point around this little trick track. Edited July 15, 2017 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
847084 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Lahti has gone well around Monmore in the past. Not sure he can replace the 16 points Klindt scored at the beginning of the season, albeit from reserve. Hans Andersen is capable of a couple of good heat wins but is unlikely to put five such rides together. Will Wolves be top again on Monday night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) 51-39ish. Not near a point around this little trick track. You mean the second best track in the top flight after Belle Vue?? Wolves should be to strong as Poole still have the worst number one in the league still riding though Hans and Starke will do ok. Lahti scored very well round there last time which was 4 years ago. Holder was poor on his first visit and Kurtz is poor round there so you wont miss him Ironically Newman and Klindt were Pooles best 2 riders there and both no longer ride for the club. I think we have a chance of getting a point out of this meeting. Hans always goes well around Monmore. Starke should have the reserves on toast. Shanes will chip in as well. Lahti is decent on small tracks. Last time your reserves scored 19 and Wolves scored 6 so basically you 'had them on toast' last time. Kurtz is missing ....im sure r/r will cover his 4 points from last time. Also Schlein replaces r/r for Wolves which yielded 3 point last time. You lost by 10 last time.............how can any of the above make you think you will get a point! Edited July 15, 2017 by Gavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Second best. More like second to last from a racing point of view. (Not from a track conditions point of view) Belle Vue Wolves Somerset Swindon Rye House Poole Kings Lynn Leicester Thats my order of where i would class the tracks in order of good racing.......opinions only obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Belle Vue Wolves Somerset Swindon Rye House Poole Kings Lynn Leicester Thats my order of where i would class the tracks in order of good racing.......opinions only obviously Not finishing order then. But im sure you'd love that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) Not finishing order then. But im sure you'd love that. Why don't you tell us what your order would be ? And I'm talking about the quality of racing. Edited July 15, 2017 by Beowulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Belle Vue Wolves Somerset Swindon Rye House Poole Kings Lynn Leicester Thats my order of where i would class the tracks in order of good racing.......opinions only obviously How many of those tracks have you actually visited in the past 18 months, ie since the start of 2016 season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 How many of those tracks have you actually visited in the past 18 months, ie since the start of 2016 season?Was gonna say that. Can't rate tracks unless you've been there to see it for yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) I think you can judge a track by watching the tv coverage! Gavans list seems fair to me although i haven't seen Leicester since the recent changes. Edited July 15, 2017 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 How many of those tracks have you actually visited in the past 18 months, ie since the start of 2016 season? Rye House and Swindon But you telling me i cant have an opinion by watching the racing on TV? As i said its my opinion on what ive seen. Was gonna say that. Can't rate tracks unless you've been there to see it for yourself! Erm...............yes you can. Can i not think Belle Vue is good then??? Not finishing order then. But im sure you'd love that. Swap Kings Lynn for Somerset it wont be far wrong lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 You can think BV is good in theory, but unless you've been to the tracks you can not judge them against each other accurately, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 You can think BV is good in theory, but unless you've been to the tracks you can not judge them against each other accurately, in my opinion.ive watched all the tracks with the possible exception of Rye House (though I have been there) lots of times on tv. As I said it's my opinion but it's surely obvious that you don't need to go to Belle Vue to realise it's the best track! World Cup last year proved that's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 The scary thing is of the tracks in the PL only BV , Somerset and Wolves produce decent racing at the minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 The scary thing is of the tracks in the PL only BV , Somerset and Wolves produce decent racing at the minute Racing at Poole has been in general good this year. Yes it was bad against bv on tv but much better on Wednesday. Always loads of passing on a fast circuit. Only tracks better in the top flight are BV and Somerset in my opinion. Wolves might be smooth but I couldn't watch that every week. Wobbleway. I have been to Monmore dozens of times and am just not a fan of the track. There's passing but mostly away riders having a wobble or locking up. Prefer proper speedway with the throttle open. Only track worse is Leicester, which has hardly any passing. Its all down to personal taste. Wolves fans like Monmore. I prefer tracks with speed and therefore BV, Somerset and Poole. Swindon can be good at times as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perton Wolf Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 ive watched all the tracks with the possible exception of Rye House (though I have been there) lots of times on tv. As I said it's my opinion but it's surely obvious that you don't need to go to Belle Vue to realise it's the best track! World Cup last year proved that's Belle Vue is an awesome track (produces better racing than most of the Swedish League tracks for starters) but it is to be expected with the money that was put into the new stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Only track worse is Leicester, which has hardly any passing.FWIW I thought the racing was quite decent at Leicester, but that was my only visit so far this season! As to the tight track versus speed point, it's surely possible to appreciate both? But as you say, personal taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Love going to Swindon for some reason but never see much passing , strangely same with Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Belle Vue is an awesome track (produces better racing than most of the Swedish League tracks for starters) but it is to be expected with the money that was put into the new stadium. It was nothing to do with the cost of the stadium. It was because David Gordon and Chris Morton insisted that the stadium was built around the track and not just adapted to fit inside it and because they did lots of research on other tracks including the old Hyde Road before finalising their design. They even went to the quarry and chose the shale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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