dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Wouldnt the dirt piled up against the fence have been saturated and likely to have caused more problems than it solved if dragged back down?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 I just find it hard to see it as a competitive sport after that. Normally you'd expect both teams wanting to go out for a win. Speedway so often seems to be exceptional in this case. Had their adrenaline rush, got their money. They're happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Wouldnt the dirt piled up against the fence have been saturated and likely to have caused more problems than it solved if dragged back down?? Maybe, maybe not, but it would've been nice to have at least tried. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Howe had 0 problems riding the fence in heat 14... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 I just find it hard to see it as a competitive sport after that. Normally you'd expect both teams wanting to go out for a win. Speedway so often seems to be exceptional in this case. Had their adrenaline rush, got their money. They're happy. wasnt there so obviously i dont know the conditions i agree with the above post but we also dont want to see any injured to often now riders are getting meetings called of when fans are enjoying some of the best speedway theyve seen recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) Don't know about track covers! Looks like it's covered STADIUMS is the only way to gaurantee 15 Hts these days,even then the riders would probably find something wrong with the track!!!! This highlights why many Promotions don't bother with track covers,because unless the weather is 100% gaurenteed to clear up the meeting might not go ahead anyway.The fans are certainly being "short changed " too easily these days. Edited July 16, 2017 by Fromafar 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 I`m afraid I still haven't changed my opinion from last night but I except what David Howe was saying, as ever he did speak well when trying to put the case for the abandonment. Biggest problem I have is that we watched three or four heats in the rain shower of which the last of those finished around 8-50pm, even with our curfew that gave the track team thirty minutes minimum to get the track something like raceable, sadly there was zero effort in that direction and a total disregard for the paying customers in the stands . The weather had gone in fact as I left the car park the sun had come out again so the track wouldn't have got worse only better and even if after the track work the meeting was abandoned at least there had been a bit of effort put in. The dirt was pilled indeed up against the fence but surely we have the equipment to move the dirt back down. Your point about why apparently no effort was made to carry out remedial work on the track after ht14, given the improving weather conditions, at least deserves a public explanation from the Berwick Promotion. If no public statement is forthcoming from Bandits by midweek, may I suggest you raise the matter directly with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnorthstar Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Berwick now saying the ref called it , well that wasn't said last nite they said the riders called it for safety reasons ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBSC Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Wouldnt the dirt piled up against the fence have been saturated and likely to have caused more problems than it solved if dragged back down?? Not sure about that, watching track being bladed after meeting the shale against fence looked quite dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Berwick now saying the ref called it , well that wasn't said last nite they said the riders called it for safety reasons ? Riders have no power to cancel meetings , referee has the final say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Riders have no power to cancel meetings , referee has the final say.True,but that's not how it happens in real life these days,it's naive to think the ref would overrule the riders these days.Health and Safety is the "buzz "word. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Riders have no power to cancel meetings , referee has the final say. I believe that may have added to the problem, we had a trainee referee who was being supervised by Mick Bates, IMO he could've been firmer with the riders and raced Ht15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Riders have no power to cancel meetings , referee has the final say.The riders said they didn't want to ride ht15, the ref had asked for the pits to phone up confirming selections for gates and riders so the ref was happy to continue... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 I never thought I'd see the day a certain poster woke up and smelt the coffee about the jokers that run this sport . Good to see a certain other poster was fully behind the decision to abandon Happy clapping the decision :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Not sure about that, watching track being bladed after meeting the shale against fence looked quite dry. They bladed the track AFTER the meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 They bladed the track AFTER the meeting Why not. Far better to do that, than leave it for another 2 weeks and then pull it back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dodds Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 They bladed the track AFTER the meeting as they do after every meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Love the last three posts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) Feel as if us fans have totally have the urine taken out of us tonight. Utter farce that heat 15 wasn't run. What rubbed salt into the wound was riders coming on the mic and saying how dangerous it would have been to ride: after just having 2 heats in pouring rain!!!! Very patronising. 35 minutes until curfew, no water lying on the track, clear skies, not a single bit of track grading to even try to get heat 15 on. It's hard to take the sport seriously after that - I've suddenly lost a massive amount of interest in it I so much agree with you, hardly a fan that left the stadium that was not angry with that decision I haven't left a speedway meeting as disappointed and frustrated in a long time , in my opinion Berwick and the public were robbed of a win tonight. The conditions would have been no worse than they where when it was actually raining, the times in hts 13&14 where improving so I don't think that the track was the problem, it's my view that Glasgow didn't want to lose and where happy with the two points for the draw , I and plenty others have seen racing continue in far worse conditions than that track was in . A sad end to,what was a decent meeting that left a bitter taste in the mouth I have seen the track worse at the beginning of the meeting, never mind the end. Assuming it's a load of baloney but any truth is Lawson and Worrall having a bit of argy bargy tonight I`m sure it suited both teams not to run heat 15. Both teams saved a heat`s wages. Glasgow probably happy to take 2 points for the away draw- a 4-2 reverse in the last and they would have only got 1 plus Berwick didn`t have a home defeat although if run they could have got a home win !! Makes you think ' Back hander' heaven forbid see your point mate but the riders made the decision and we need to respect it. Track looked very slippy apart from riding close to fence Whether we like it or not they risk their necks and who are we to argue We didn't like it but folks saying they won't be back is a bit much. Given Berwick record in last heat ones this probably went in their favour ! Cannot agree, plenty of time to re-grade track and bring the dirt off the fence, 10 minutes to settle, would have been fine doubling up is ruining british speedway worralls got a ride at poole aswell Whats her name Great meeting, unfortunate about H15, but it was an ice rink in places the last few heats. Probably should / could have sorted it out but an enjoyable night none the leass. Roll on Glesga this afternoon. Definately COULD HAVE, and most definite SHOULD HAVE Enjoyed 14 heats of good speedway in a nip and tuck meeting looking forward to heat 15 after heat 14 time was quicker than 12 and 13 never seen that coming i think a lot of supporters will be in two minds to go back.Utter £iss take it was not run,instead of talking about the meeting its all about no heat 15 can see why us and Glasgow are leading the way with track covers they dont want to get wet.Berwicks already dwindling support will now tested to the max i for one will think long and hard about going back and the club has no one to blame apart from themselves $issed of Just 1 of so many Edited July 17, 2017 by balderdash&piffle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnstormer Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 I so much agree with you, hardly a fan that left the stadium that was not angry with that decision I have seen the track worse at the beginning of the meeting, never mind the end. Makes you think ' Back hander' heaven forbid Cannot agree, plenty of time to re-grade track and bring the dirt off the fence, 10 minutes to settle, would have been fine Whats her name Definately COULD HAVE, and most definite SHOULD HAVE Just 1 of so many Well have to agree with plenty posts but pardon pun it water under bridge now it won't change so onwards and downwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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