Perton Wolf Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Riss has to be replaced quite a bad injury and even if he comes back will take time to get back to full speed.Can Clegg come back for Greaves now? or not i feel he could score a extra point or two which could be vital to replace Riss that will be difficult. Clegg isn't good enough to be the senior reserve. I'm still hoping that M Riss returns ahead of schedule and is 100% ready come the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 It's all about having the right gear and engines and certain mentality . Always knew BWD had the ability...it's just down to finance and set up at this level and that mentality. Same can be said of Tungate...give him the equipment and he'll do it for you. Wonder where his best engines are...abroad? In Ellis and BWD, Swindon have got two riders that are exciting to watch and who obviously enjoy their racing. I'm enjoying watching their progress. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 First of all, well done Swindon , completely deserved winners . But can anyone explain why BV riders looked 10 yrds slower than the visiting riders ? Not being disrespectful because he looks a fine prospect But how can riders like BWD absolutely fly round the NSS on their first ever visit , yet the home riders look really slow ? Set ups ? Machinery ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Certainly puts a different spin on the forthcoming KO Cup clash. I think many Aces fans thought it would be a walk in the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 As a Rye fan I'm now rooting for the Robins as they have stood by their riders and are gaining the reward. BWD has huge potential and I'm sure a few Polish teams will be taking a look. Stood by their riders ? Made two changes recently haven't they ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 First of all, well done Swindon , completely deserved winners . But can anyone explain why BV riders looked 10 yrds slower than the visiting riders ? Not being disrespectful because he looks a fine prospect But how can riders like BWD absolutely fly round the NSS on their first ever visit , yet the home riders look really slow ? Set ups ? Machinery ? Join the "Agatha Christie" - how does this come about club as many supporters have the same questions about KL Stars. As well as Set ups? Machinery? we also add track prep? and rider motivation ( match guarantees instead of points )? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 First of all, well done Swindon , completely deserved winners . But can anyone explain why BV riders looked 10 yrds slower than the visiting riders ? Not being disrespectful because he looks a fine prospect But how can riders like BWD absolutely fly round the NSS on their first ever visit , yet the home riders look really slow ? Set ups ? Machinery ? It's a lot to do with machinery and getting the set up right for the track conditions. Then you have to take in fatigue, travel and the mental state of the riders on the night. You look at the times of a meeting, and it's pretty much within a second each week. So why do riders, perform one week, but not the next? At this level, riders are much of a muchness. It's mainly down to machinery and getting the set up spot on early. However...Speedway riders can't help tinkering. They get it right one week...but still they will tinker to try and find extra speed. Yet this often leads to going backwards instead of forwards. Riders are like sheep...they see someone do something, and they all try it. An engine tuner says you need this doing, and they do it. It's been like this for as long as I can remember. You'll also get occasions where they prepare the track, thinking it's one thing, yet turns out the other. Home riders think it's slick, but turns out grippier than expected. Seen this happen a few times this season especially. You usually get a lot of mid meeting grading then lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Still..... the question is, why was BWD allowed to ride for Swindon, when this meeting was put in after Peterboroughs, so technically shouldnt of been riding for Swindon. Good old consistent BSPA once again, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Still..... the question is, why was BWD allowed to ride for Swindon, when this meeting was put in after Peterboroughs, so technically shouldnt of been riding for Swindon. Good old consistent BSPA once again,Yes good question i am not surprised you want an answer as you could have done with him last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted July 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Still..... the question is, why was BWD allowed to ride for Swindon, when this meeting was put in after Peterboroughs, so technically shouldnt of been riding for Swindon. Good old consistent BSPA once again, Don't know where you got that from, this meeting been in the fixtures since first released in January. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) Stood by their riders ? Made two changes recently haven't they ? Effectively the same rider in the team (Grondal replaced by Gappmeier replaced by Alpen) - which is where Swindon have been lacking - now have a better balanced side Edited July 15, 2017 by Steve0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) First of all, well done Swindon , completely deserved winners . But can anyone explain why BV riders looked 10 yrds slower than the visiting riders ? Not being disrespectful because he looks a fine prospect But how can riders like BWD absolutely fly round the NSS on their first ever visit , yet the home riders look really slow ? Set ups ? Machinery ? Maybe a deal because Swindon have to be top 4? Bet the teams above them feel aggrieved but that's the way it goes sometimes, speedway is not a science and results can be unpredictable. Edited July 15, 2017 by SPEEDY69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin wood Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 I reckon riders turn up at the NSS take a look at the track and think wow this is miles better than what I'm used to,I can't wait to have a blast round there.Big,fast loads of room and very smooth,bring it on.Swindon did and battered us.Too much tinkering with set ups by Aces riders and poor gating cost us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadster Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Last night was my firs visit to the NSS. I left feeling disappointed, having seen so many great races there on TV. The two memorable races were for 2nd/3rd place. It seemed to be that the guy in second on both occasions lost out by trying to catch the rider in front and was riding slightly the wrong line. Last night there seemed to be one really fast line out wide. Perhaps regular attenders could comment on whether the track was prepared differently to usual. One thing that struck me was that Cook was very reluctant to try the outside line, continually trying to work his way through on the inside. I'd have thought he'd have worked it out after his first ride. Maybe he had bike problems? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) Clegg isn't good enough to be the senior reserve. I'm still hoping that M Riss returns ahead of schedule and is 100% ready come the playoffs. What a crap rule what a surprise ??? is Clegg much different in ability and experience to Greaves.? Edited July 15, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 What a crap rule what a surprise ??? is Clegg much different in ability and experience to Greaves.? It's about form. After the way he rode at the end of last year, I expected Clegg to push on this year, instead he went backwards and it may have been the pressure of being the senior reserve.Since M.Riss came he provided points and excitement and both things are a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Thank you Mr Drop a Cog (why did you change your nom de plume Btw? ) . You certainly live up to your BSF surname.. Long story but I was being bullied by two bigger (not in real life) wolves boys, so I ran off and had to change my account to try and get the bullies to stop. I set up a new account but the bullies soon found out who I was and even tried to get me banned, it has been the same ever since. One of the bullies keeps going on about it even now. That learnt me to stand up to them and they don't like it much but I do. Peter Sellers came up with the user name although it was my parents who thought of calling me Fred in the first place. Forgot to mention that one of the bullies even contacts other users by pm (even as I type this!)and tells them lies about me. You just can't trust some people to keep a pm private can you, lol! More lies. Funny how you told me you were happy to take the ban to attack me because of I comment I made that you took offence too. (and obviously I wasn't banned for because it wasn't that bad at all quite clearly). So I'm not sure which fable was right now. Don't forget to mention me in every post tho now won't you. Only replying to put some truth into the lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Simple way to resolve it Steve, don't reply. Just ignore it. Difficult I know but rise above it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 What a crap rule what a surprise ??? is Clegg much different in ability and experience to Greaves.? Clegg has been established in the 2nd tier for a season. Also achieved a top flight average. Greaves has only ever really been NL standard until this season. Clegg has also been a big fish in the NL for 3 seasons now. Greaves has been 3rd heat leader standard at that level. Simple way to resolve it Steve, don't reply. Just ignore it. Difficult I know but rise above it Oh I have except for the odd post (for a titter). However lies need clarifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) Clegg has been established in the 2nd tier for a season. Also achieved a top flight average. Greaves has only ever really been NL standard until this season. Clegg has also been a big fish in the NL for 3 seasons now. Greaves has been 3rd heat leader standard at that level. Oh I have except for the odd post (for a titter). However lies need clarifying. Steve, Greaves had a stint at Swindon had you forgot ? so there ent that much difference in experience.Greaves has also had two seasons at PL level with Sheffield and Workington. Edited July 15, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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