Championship Fours 06/08 Peterborough

[iris123]

It is all fair enough arnieg.Some people on here though never seem to realise there are people with different opinions

 

Some people watch a great meeting whilst others watching the same meeting think it i boring.It happens on here a bit.I know even i have been to Vojens and had a good time and most of the Danes around me seemed to have an even better time But i get back home and look on the BSF and there are plenty of posts complaining about how poor it was.We have people here who won't go to meetings because of the silly rules and others who like the rules.We had a guy who got made redundant and had a list of riders he wanted to see and travelled around Europe choosing the meetings,so he could cross people off his list.I have been to meetings because of the riders announced only to find they aren't there and also weren't injured etc.I have also since pointed out a few times that particular tracks were announcing riders in their line-ups who were maybe weeks before injured and out for a while!!!!......We all have different goals and opinions.Just still trying to find that list to see if i am a genuine fan though

 

 

As for the weekend's meeting . Certain ones on here had their fun moaning about this , that and the next thing . Wanting bans , sanctions , riders burned at the stake , promoters disembowelled , we had the lot . Whilst everyone who attended the meeting had a wonderful time and were royally entertained by some breathtaking racing . So all in all , all tastes were catered for .

And there you will notice a big difference.I can only speak for those that i saw.There might have been one or two near me and could well be loads that i didn't see,as i didn't notice everyone.But others make this great statement and speak for everyone!!! Of course your post was tongue in cheek,as you'd never do that

Edited August 8, 2017 by iris123

[Paulco]

 

 

And there you will notice a big difference.I can only speak for those that i saw.There might have been one or two near me and could well be loads that i didn't see,as i didn't notice everyone.But others make this great statement and speak for everyone!!! Of course your post was tongue in cheek,as you'd never do that

I should have added , in my opinion . Others might have been standing yawning watching Chris Harris and others duel neck and neck for four laps

[iris123]

I should have added , in my opinion . Others might have been standing yawning watching Chris Harris and others duel neck and neck for four laps

After years of watching your mob try and play fitba anything seems like good entertainment and value for money

[Paulco]

After years of watching your mob try and play fitba anything seems like good entertainment and value for money

This is a speedway forum , we'll keep that nonsense out of it thank you very much

[Badge]

I should have added , in my opinion . Others might have been standing yawning watching Chris Harris and others duel neck and neck for four laps

 

or the Witches fans crying cos their team went from heroes to zero's lol Edited August 8, 2017 by Badge

[Paulco]

or the Witches fans crying cos their team went from heroes to zero's lol

That's ok , mine never even reached those lofty heights

[bigcatdiary]

As for the weekend's meeting . Certain ones on here had their fun moaning about this , that and the next thing . Wanting bans , sanctions , riders burned at the stake , promoters disembowelled , we had the lot . Whilst everyone who attended the meeting had a wonderful time and were royally entertained by some breathtaking racing . So all in all , all tastes were catered for .

 

And of course the BSPA making a shed load of money, we will have to see if Ged Rathbone agrees to stage it again next year.

 

Perhaps they should stage it at Kings Lynn, they get some cracking processions I am told, that will pack them in.

[Gemini]

I should have added , in my opinion . Others might have been standing yawning watching Chris Harris and others duel neck and neck for four laps

I don't see why you have to add 'in my opinion' because obviously anything you post on here is your opinion.........in my opinion.

Edited August 8, 2017 by Gemini

[Halifaxtiger]

 

 

Good for you.Your opinion and right,but you obviously don't speak for everyone.

 

 

I was going to quote all the people on here who thought the meeting, the racing or whole day was fantastic/brilliant/amazing.

 

Unfortunately, the site doesn't allow you to quote that many.

 

Shads might not speak for everyone. But based upon opinion on here at least, he speaks for the overwhelming majority at worst.

 

In addition, there will always be those who will prefer to focus on any issue that damns the BSPA, a promotion or a rider and utterly ignore or belittle the quality of the speedway. I really don't understand that mentality.

 

Apart from arguing with the Poldark boys in the pub before hand, I don't believe I thought about Jack Holder, Torun or Ged Rathbone once and I most certainly didn't when I was watching that astonishing final.

Edited August 8, 2017 by Halifaxtiger

[topsoil]

As for the weekend's meeting . Certain ones on here had their fun moaning about this , that and the next thing . Wanting bans , sanctions , riders burned at the stake , promoters disembowelled , we had the lot . Whilst everyone who attended the meeting had a wonderful time and were royally entertained by some breathtaking racing . So all in all , all tastes were catered for .

Sometimes, when you ignore the politics, concentrate on what speedway is, four riders over four laps at high speed, you remember what a bloody good sport we have here.

[spin king]

i did not attend the meeting, but generally Peterborough is know for good quality racing, and I don't think that it hold much of an advantage so for keep there fours running at Peterborough, and it is harsh to think that Peterborough had an advantage especially when the release Jack Holder and replace him with Simon Lambert.

 

For me there has to be some sort of punishment coming Peterborough's way as they did under value the event by releasing Holder to ride in Poland.

 

My solution would be to

 

Keep back 25% of the fee they received for running the event monies to be given to the Ben Fund.

 

Also 25% of their share of the profits from the meeting and that to be given to the Poultec scheme for British Youth riders.

[Crump99]

For me there has to be some sort of punishment coming Peterborough's way as they did under value the event by releasing Holder to ride in Poland.

 

My solution would be to

 

Keep back 25% of the fee they received for running the event monies to be given to the Ben Fund.

 

Also 25% of their share of the profits from the meeting and that to be given to the Poultec scheme for British Youth riders.

 

Rathbone said "“We get nothing from it other than the pride and satisfaction" which suggests that there is no fee or profits?

 

Sets a bad precedent so whatever else the BSPA don't do they need to tighten the rules so that it doesn't happen again. Holder should get 28 days irrespective of whether the club gives the blessing it wasn't theirs to give but he'll not of course, despite Chapman's PR rant as it was described. If they tighten the rules then that should be sufficient with a severe reprimand for Rathbone and warning on future conduct. That's as close to doing nothing as they should be able to get away with,

Edited August 9, 2017 by Crump99

[LagutaRacingFan]

i did not attend the meeting, but generally Peterborough is know for good quality racing, and I don't think that it hold much of an advantage so for keep there fours running at Peterborough, and it is harsh to think that Peterborough had an advantage especially when the release Jack Holder and replace him with Simon Lambert.

 

For me there has to be some sort of punishment coming Peterborough's way as they did under value the event by releasing Holder to ride in Poland.

 

My solution would be to

 

Keep back 25% of the fee they received for running the event monies to be given to the Ben Fund.

 

Also 25% of their share of the profits from the meeting and that to be given to the Poultec scheme for British Youth riders.

 

You are kidding right?

 

The Panthers did the BSPA a favour by running this event and attracting a huge crowd.

 

£3000 x £20 = £60,000 divided by 10 PL clubs = £6,000 each for doing absolutely nothing.

Edited August 8, 2017 by Jeremy Corbyn Fan

[False dawn]

Fair enough.Lost my list of 'genuine' fans and thought False dawn was on it.My bad

Sorry, but I can't let that go without putting my side in context.

I went to Peterborough expecting to see every club put out their best team to contest a recognised National event. Not every club did and to be told that's alright because someone stumped up some money left me feeling short changed. Did I go home feeling cheated? No, of course not. I count myself as a genuine fan (for nearly 50 years as it happens) and what I witnessed, in the final especially, was speedway out the top drawer.

So all is well. Peterborugh won, despite not having Jack in their team. We all got 32 heats for a sensible entrance fee and even the weather stayed nice.

Well no. All is not well. A very bad precedent was set. Will it be okay if 3 clubs or 5, do the same next year? Because if that's okay I don't think there will a Fours 3 or 4 years from now. There has to be some integrety in the way we conduct ourselves, whether it be in our personal lives or in business. A principle is at stake here and it doesn't just cover riders being released to ride elsewhere. We now have others threatening to not do the Fours because of the money. What next? I don't like that track?

To be fair, there were riders there that demonstrated their pride in their clubs and rode as hard as they could.

That, I applaud.

[waiheke1]

 

You are kidding right?

 

The Panthers did the BSPA a favour by running this event and attracting a huge crowd.

 

£3000 x £20 = £60,000 divided by 10 PL clubs = £6,000 each for doing absolutely nothing.

Less vat and costs of course, so I doubt very much each club is getting 6k..

[Siggytastic]

There was a lot of £2 car park fees. Is it normally that much?

[Whisperer]

 

You are kidding right?

 

The Panthers did the BSPA a favour by running this event and attracting a huge crowd.

 

£3000 x £20 = £60,000 divided by 10 PL clubs = £6,000 each for doing absolutely nothing.

 

That's right; no vat to pay, no prize money, no travelling expenses, no insurance, no rent, no officials fees, no temporary, facilities hire, no marketing cost's, no trophies to pay for, no staging fee for the home promotion - all a gift from above - dickhead post

Edited August 9, 2017 by Whisperer

[Midland Red]

Matt Ford does the "no trophies to pay for" economics if I remember correctly

[topsoil]

Genuine question from a fan who doesn't know. What does the likes of Peterborough or any staging track get from meetings like this? Obviously parking and tea / bar / food takings, the entrance money will go to the BSPA, who will meet the expenses.

 

Does a staging track receive a fee for holding the event? Does the staging track have to tender for the event and pay a fee to the BSPA?

[bigcatdiary]

Genuine question from a fan who doesn't know. What does the likes of Peterborough or any staging track get from meetings like this? Obviously parking and tea / bar / food takings, the entrance money will go to the BSPA, who will meet the expenses.

 

Does a staging track receive a fee for holding the event? Does the staging track have to tender for the event and pay a fee to the BSPA?

Tea, Bar and Food at Peterborough is done by the Showground, none of this profit goes to Peterborough Speedway or the BSPA.