foamfence Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Nielsen knows more about speedway than you would ever know!!!! Good rider did you watch him with your eyes shut GREAT rider more like. Of course he has made mistakes who hasn't Rossiter certainly has or do you convinenienly forget that Nielsen has taken over when Denmark have real problems they need to rebuild.Iversen,Pedersen. x2) ,Bjerre,Anderson are all well past there peak who wouldn't struggle every manager makes mistakes even the great Peter Adams. Erm.... Keep your foot well clear of that gun barrel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) Erm.... Keep your foot well clear of that gun barrel.Orion is Stevie Wonder in disguise .😂😜 Edited July 30, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Of course getting to the final without your top rider is something to brag about as is coming second last year ..Not a chance of Woffy doing better I would expect he would quit during the week to be honest . You only have to look at Hans ..a good rider but a clueless tm the same as Tai would be . Nielsen has taken over Denmark at the time of a re-build. He's therefore the ideal man for the job, because any incoming riders could hardly have a better example. GB scored 15 paltry points in this year's final. Woffy could have scored more than that by himself. And he could have advised riders like Cookie and Lambert, who struggled badly, regarding set-up. It's no coincidence that Steve Worrall, Woffy's mate who spoke to him regarding set-up before the meeting, did OK. How can Rosco advise riders how to set up a bike on a Polish track? Did he ever ride on one? If he did, I doubt if he ever scored points on one. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Correct no one listens to what fans say ...and people wonder why the sport its on it's knees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Nielsen has taken over Denmark at the time of a re-build. He's therefore the ideal man for the job, because any incoming riders could hardly have a better example. GB scored 15 paltry points in this year's final. Woffy could have scored more than that by himself. And he could have advised riders like Cookie and Lambert, who struggled badly, regarding set-up. It's no coincidence that Steve Worrall, Woffy's mate who spoke to him regarding set-up before the meeting, did OK. How can Rosco advise riders how to set up a bike on a Polish track? Did he ever ride on one? If he did, I doubt if he ever scored points on one. All the best Rob Rob why are you trying to big up Woffinden who has stuck his fingers up at British fans and British speedway? Wouldn't have him anywhere near teamGB until he apologises to British fans and asks to come back. And Roscos should have booted him out of the pits last night at the world games. No right to be there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Nielsen has taken over Denmark at the time of a re-build. He's therefore the ideal man for the job, because any incoming riders could hardly have a better example. GB scored 15 paltry points in this year's final. Woffy could have scored more than that by himself. And he could have advised riders like Cookie and Lambert, who struggled badly, regarding set-up. It's no coincidence that Steve Worrall, Woffy's mate who spoke to him regarding set-up before the meeting, did OK. How can Rosco advise riders how to set up a bike on a Polish track? Did he ever ride on one? If he did, I doubt if he ever scored points on one. All the best Rob This set-up lark is just an excuse,Cook and Worrall have been riding for years if they haven't learned anything by now their in trouble it's only some dirt on an oval.They all make the same excuse though.Good riders can have a bad 1st ride but generally sort it out.Woffy maybe should give them his machinery set up for Polish tracks is his intentions are that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Nielsen has taken over Denmark at the time of a re-build. He's therefore the ideal man for the job, because any incoming riders could hardly have a better example. GB scored 15 paltry points in this year's final. Woffy could have scored more than that by himself. And he could have advised riders like Cookie and Lambert, who struggled badly, regarding set-up. It's no coincidence that Steve Worrall, Woffy's mate who spoke to him regarding set-up before the meeting, did OK. How can Rosco advise riders how to set up a bike on a Polish track? Did he ever ride on one? If he did, I doubt if he ever scored points on one. All the best Rob Nothing to stop Tai offering to ride for the current set-up and to share his knowledge with his team mates, but he wants to be manager, captain, selector, number one and head coach, but only when it suits him. He should stop trying to undermine everything by bleating to the press and social media and get back in the TEAM. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 This set-up lark is just an excuse,Cook and Worrall have been riding for years if they haven't learned anything by now their in trouble it's only some dirt on an oval.They all make the same excuse though.Good riders can have a bad 1st ride but generally sort it out.Woffy maybe should give them his machinery set up for Polish tracks is his intentions are that good. Who knows what Woffy would do if they gave him the chance he is asking for? After all, when New Zealand won in 1979, Ivan Mauger's bikes were out in 14 races out of 16. Interestingly, Mauger refused to ride for New Zealand in the WTC between '75 and '78. In his case, it was a protest over the qualifying round being on a Sunday, when we wanted to be on the continent riding in lucrative Longtrack bookings. When Mauger committed, he always committed 100% to win. He wasn't in it to come second or fourth or whatever. He was in to finish first. Woffy is the same. He wants to win. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) When Mauger committed, he always committed 100% to win. He wasn't in it to come second or fourth or whatever. He was in to finish first. Woffy is the same. He wants to win. All the best Rob He has to be in it to win it. At the moment he has won it as many times as I have. And if he keeps up his selfish and arrogant attitude to British speedway he will end his career viewed as a pariah. All very sad and a waste, but he has never been a team player. Edited July 30, 2017 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 He has to be in it to win it. At the moment he has won it as many times as I have. And if he keeps up his selfish and arrogant attitude to British speedway he will end his career viewed as a pariah. All very sad and a waste, but he has never been a team player.Total rubbish so are you saying there is nothing wrong with British Speedway and the International set up?there clearly is.Tai wanted to add his input and maybe put thing's in place have a say at least would you not at least listen to a double world champion.? i would given the position we are in now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Correct no one listens to what fans say ...and people wonder why the sport its on it's knees I think he can do a lot worst ...what is he going to do when things don't go his way ? Quit and take his ball home as normal ...he's to got grow up a lot before he given the keys to the safe so to speak .If he can beat Rosco's outstanding record of coming 2nd and 4th in the last two years are be amazed . Last years result was purely down to Tai. This year was purely down to the fact Event 1 was stupidly easy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) Steve Worrall is proving that our boys can be competitive at the highest level without intervention of Tai (afaik). Steve is a fantastic gater for starters but there's much more to it than that. Edited July 30, 2017 by Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) He has to be in it to win it. At the moment he has won it as many times as I have. And if he keeps up his selfish and arrogant attitude to British speedway he will end his career viewed as a pariah. All very sad and a waste, but he has never been a team player. Shovvy, what nonsense. Woffy has always been a team player. And he still is. He's been advising Steve Worrall. Woffy was a brilliant team-rider right from the off. I remember him team riding superbly for Scunny at Oxford with Joe Haines in 2007, when he was 17 and Haines was 15. He's quite entitled to complain, when he feels the team management is not up to scratch. He's a professional, and if he feels the team manager is an amateur, then he should say so. It's been 28 years since we won the WTC. Time for a change! All the best Rob Edited July 30, 2017 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) Nielsen has taken over Denmark at the time of a re-build. He's therefore the ideal man for the job, because any incoming riders could hardly have a better example. GB scored 15 paltry points in this year's final. Woffy could have scored more than that by himself. And he could have advised riders like Cookie and Lambert, who struggled badly, regarding set-up. It's no coincidence that Steve Worrall, Woffy's mate who spoke to him regarding set-up before the meeting, did OK. How can Rosco advise riders how to set up a bike on a Polish track? Did he ever ride on one? If he did, I doubt if he ever scored points on one. All the best Rob Point proven again in the World Games where Worrall, with Woffinden in his corner, put up another creditable performance. Shame about his partner. He has to be in it to win it. At the moment he has won it as many times as I have. And if he keeps up his selfish and arrogant attitude to British speedway he will end his career viewed as a pariah. All very sad and a waste, but he has never been a team player. That's why he was there at the World Games helping Steve Worrall. As Rob B says above he has been one of the best team riders in the sport in the modern era. Steve Worrall is proving that our boys can be competitive at the highest level with intervention of Tai (afaik). Steve is a fantastic gater for starters but there's much more to it than that. Did you mean to type 'with' or 'without'.. Edited July 30, 2017 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Nielsen knows more about speedway than you would ever know!!!! Good rider did you watch him with your eyes shut GREAT rider more like. Of course he has made mistakes who hasn't Rossiter certainly has or do you convinenienly forget that Nielsen has taken over when Denmark have real problems they need to rebuild.Iversen,Pedersen. x2) ,Bjerre,Anderson are all well past there peak who wouldn't struggle every manager makes mistakes even the great Peter Adams. When did I say I did or say he was not a great rider ...if going to make a effort to reply at least try to understand the point being made ...in this case that just because you are a great rider it does make you a great team manager .You called Peter Adams a great tm but I can't think what he did as a rider . I don't think with the side Denmark that anyone had them down to come last and get knocked out in fact they were joint favs to win the meeting it was a shocking display from them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Point proven again in the World Games where Worrall, with Woffinden in his corner, put up another creditable performance. Shame about his partner. That's why he was there at the World Games helping Steve Worrall. As Rob B says above he has been one of the best team riders in the sport in the modern era. Did you mean to type 'with' or 'without'.. Without I meant, just how much intervention has Tai had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 When did I say I did or say he was not a great rider ...if going to make a effort to reply at least try to understand the point being made ...in this case that just because you are a great rider it does make you a great team manager .You called Peter Adams a great tm but I can't think what he did as a rider .I don't think with the side Denmark that anyone had them down to come last and get knocked out in fact they were joint favs to win the meeting it was a shocking display from them .You said Nielsen was a GOOD rider your words not mine, you odviously did not see alot of him.Ok we move on Denmark have to rebuild do you agree? Denmark this year had no chance of winning anything at least now they know they have problems and have to regroup and plan for the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) You said Nielsen was a GOOD rider your words not mine, you odviously did not see alot of him.Ok we move on Denmark have to rebuild do you agree? Denmark this year had no chance of winning anything at least now they know they have problems and have to regroup and plan for the future. I also said he was a great rider my words also ...Having to rebuild has nothing on there shocking display in the last two years with the side they had out ...they were 2nd favs next to Poland this year only to go out in the first round . Nielsen has been been hopeless as a tm thus far thou if you used Rob Peasley logic they should done great as Hans should have had the bikes set up perfect lol Edited July 30, 2017 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 You said Nielsen was a GOOD rider your words not mine, you odviously did not see alot of him.Ok we move on Denmark have to rebuild do you agree? Denmark this year had no chance of winning anything at least now they know they have problems and have to regroup and plan for the future.They probably don't have the riders to win things this year but they should be doing much better than they have done the last couple of seasons. Their riders seem to be underperforming when they represent their country at the moment, something which hadn't been seen for many years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 I also said he was a great rider my words also ...Having to rebuild has nothing on there shocking display in the last two years with the side they had out ...they were 2nd favs next to Poland this year only to go out in the first round . Nielsen has been been hopeless as a tm thus far thou if you used Rob Peasley logic they should done great as Hans should have had bikes set up perfect lolTotal crap if you believe that set of riders without Nicki outside of VOJENS were second favourites you were deluded the other countries have caught up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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