lucifer sam Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Without I meant, just how much intervention has Tai had? Advised Worrall before the World Cup, and was in his pit crew for the World Games. I think we can already see Woffy can inspire a rider in a way that Rosco simply can't. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Total crap if you believe that set of riders without Nicki outside of VOJENS were second favourites you were deluded the other countries have caught up. ? What is it got to do with what I think ...the bookies had Denmark as second favs that is a fact . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) ? What is it got to do with what I think ...the bookies had Denmark as second favs that is a fact . The bookies often get it wrong. Denmark - with Nicki out injured and Kildemand out of the frame due to not being 100% - were nowhere near second favourites. Denmark are now facing a re-build, as they also did after Nielsen retired. All the best Rob Edited July 30, 2017 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) ? What is it got to do with what I think ...the bookies had Denmark as second favs that is a fact .Do you always go by the odds? have you not got a opinion? Silly question really anybody who says that Hans Nielsen was just a GOOD rider and you said GOOD says it all for me by the way did you see Hans ride much orion odviously not.😜🤓 Edited July 30, 2017 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Advised Worrall before the World Cup, and was in his pit crew for the World Games. I think we can already see Woffy can inspire a rider in a way that Rosco simply can't. All the best Rob Why is he not helping them all, trying to prove a point? Has he picked out Steve cos he's a great gater for starters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Why is he not helping them all, trying to prove a point? Has he picked out Steve cos he's a great gater for starters? Him and Worrall are just mates, I think. Why shouldn't he help out one of his friends? All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) The bookies often get it wrong. Denmark with Nicki out injured and Kildemand out of the frame due to not being 100% were nowhere near second favourites. All the best Rob it's all about opinion but bookmakers are one's who set the odds and in this case Denmark were second favs as I said . That is two years in a row that have been a total disaster for the danes ...just go's to show that because your a great rider it does not mean your going to make great team manager . Do you always go by the odds? have you not got a opinion? Silly question really anybody who says that Hans Nielsen was just a GOOD rider and you said GOOD says it all for me by the way did you see Hans ride much orion odviously not. Yet again I never said anything about it being my opinion I make a simple point that the danes were the second fav a point that you can't grasp .. there again coming from someone who thinks speedway promoters should take no notice of the fans it comes as no shock . Edited July 30, 2017 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) it's all about opinion but bookmakers are one's who set the odds and in this case Denmark were second favs as I said . That is two years in a row that have been a total disaster for the danes ...just go's to show that because your a great rider it does not mean your going to make great team manager .Yet again I never said anything about it being my opinion I make a simple point that the danes were the second fav a point that you can't grasp .. there again coming from someone who thinks speedway promoters should take no notice of the fans it comes as no shock .I will just say dont just go by the bookmakers odds all of the time, have your own opinion have faith.Also why by going on this topic alone on the forum Nielsen only being just GOOD in your opinion why would any promoter who put there hard earned money in listen to the likes of you.? Edited July 30, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 I will just say dont just go by the bookmakers odds all of the time, have your own opinion have faith.Also why by going on this topic alone on the forum Nielsen only being just GOOD in your opinion why would any promoter who put there hard earned money in listen to the likes of you.? Who said I did ? I explained that to you 3 times now ...You correct about the bottom bit, why would Promoters listen to fans who give them there earned money in the first place lol Fair play to you sid your funny if nothing else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) Who said I did ? I explained that to you 3 times now ...You correct about the bottom bit, why would Promoters listen to fans who give them there earned money in the first place lol Fair play to you sid your funny if nothing elseWhy even mention the bookmakers odds? do you really think Denmark were the second favourites i dont and if England had been in that round they could of been out as well.You are very very FUNNY by saying Nielsen was just a good rider you said it post 163 really he was one of the GREATS have you been on the ale?? Edited July 30, 2017 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Without I meant, just how much intervention has Tai had? Dear me... Of all the examples to pick. Woffinden has been advising Worrall and indeed at the World Games yesterday was in the pits with him. It's little wonder Worrall, again, performed above himself whilst the other GB performers were awful. You couldn't have picked a worse example! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Why even mention the bookmakers odds? do you really think Denmark were the second favourites i dont and if England had been in that round they could of been out as well.You are very very FUNNY by saying Nielsen was just a good rider you said it post 163 really he was one of the GREATS have you been on the ale?? England ? lol the gift that keeps on giving ...how can you try to explain something to someone who does not even understand what his own team is called ...and you go on about people being on the ale ..I reckon you must have drank the whole barrel . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Do you always go by the odds? have you not got a opinion? Silly question really anybody who says that Hans Nielsen was just a GOOD rider and you said GOOD says it all for me by the way did you see Hans ride much orion odviously not. No he doesn't, he follows the field mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) England ? lol the gift that keeps on giving ...how can you try to explain something to someone who does not even understand what his own team is called ...and you go on about people being on the ale ..I reckon you must have drank the whole barrel .You are a joke to be honest found out again you always are on speedway matters always found wanting .And your Nielsen comment well we wont mention it again as it shows just how much you actually know funny thing is when knobody else backs you up on threads you just keep digging a bigger hole for yourself HANS was good was he really.🤗!!!!!😤😂 Edited July 30, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 You are a joke to be honest found out again you always are on speedway matters always found wanting .And your Nielsen comment well we wont mention it again as it shows just how much you actually know funny thing is when knobody else backs you up on threads you just keep digging a bigger hole for yourself HANS was good was he really.🤗!!!!!😤😂 Good luck to team England next year lol ..who is knobbody by the way ? Is he a rider in this team England you go on about . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) Good luck to team England next year lol ..who is knobbody by the way ? Is he a rider in this team England you go on about .Does it matter if it is England,Great Britain or whoever,you always do this deflect attention off of the subject you are on about.You killed Woffinden off what's new you said Nielsen was a GOOD rider ( laughable in itself) and said Nielsen was clueless as a manager and was to blame for all Denmark's woes.You are going on IGNORE the first person i have done this to on this forum even Witcher we have had our spats but i do respect him and his point of view to debate anything with you to be honest is depressing. Edited July 31, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 HOW some people still questioning whether or not Woffinden should be back in the team is beyond me. Let us not forget the team was Going to be Cook and Lambert this weekend. Thankfully Stevie W came in and scored some points! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Yea marmite liked by 50 % disliked by 50 %Marmite? I can take it or leave it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 HOW some people still questioning whether or not Woffinden should be back in the team is beyond me. Let us not forget the team was Going to be Cook and Lambert this weekend. Thankfully Stevie W came in and scored some points! Why? He walked away from Team GB for the SWC with no good reason, so why should be automatically allowed back in? Yes he is our best rider, but that should not mean he calls the shots! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Does it matter if it is England,Great Britain or whoever,you always do this deflect attention off of the subject you are on about.You killed Woffinden off what's new you said Nielsen was a GOOD rider ( laughable in itself) and said Nielsen was clueless as a manager and was to blame for all Denmark's woes.You are going on IGNORE the first person i have done this to on this forum even Witcher we have had our spats but i do respect him and his point of view to debate anything with you to be honest is depressing. Does it matter in one post I say he's a good and the next I say he's a great ? then you want people to have there own opinion but the moment they do you then get upset and the toys come out of the pram . Maybe you should find a forum when people agree with you all the time . HOW some people still questioning whether or not Woffinden should be back in the team is beyond me. Let us not forget the team was Going to be Cook and Lambert this weekend. Thankfully Stevie W came in and scored some points! Not sure if your up to speed but Woffy is one who does not want be in the side ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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