Stars V Pirates. 13 July

[ashtree123]

It is possible to try and punch someone and not punch them. No idea if that's what happened here.

 

Gavan - calm down you are getting aggressive again.

He didn't even attempt to throw a punch, all he wanted was for the loud mouth idiot to explain himself face to face to which he cowered away like a naughty little boy haha

 

wouldnt expect much else from him from what ive seen of him

spoilt brat comes to mind

You are a joke, must be a Lambert hater haha

 

Looking at photos of him, he isn't exactly the picture of health. He needs to lose a kilo or 20.

 

Being obese certainly doesn't help blood pressure and stress.

If I was you I would get this post removed you sad pathetic low life piece of s**t

[Steve Shovlar]

He didn't even attempt to throw a punch, all he wanted was for the loud mouth idiot to explain himself face to face to which he cowered away like a naughty little boy haha

 

 

You are a joke, must be a Lambert hater haha

 

 

If I was you I would get this post removed you sad pathetic low life piece of s**t

People who are hugely obese are at risk of death at an early age. It brings on stress, heart conditions and a multitude of other health issues. Sorry but its a fact. He has probably been told by doctors and should do something about it for his own wellbeing.

[stevebrum]

People who are hugely obese are at risk of death at an early age. It brings on stress, heart conditions and a multitude of other health issues. Sorry but its a fact. He has probably been told by doctors and should do something about it for his own wellbeing.

And likewise people who drink to excess and smoke.

Not sure any of this is relevant.

[Steve Shovlar]

And likewise people who drink to excess and smoke.

Not sure any of this is relevant.

The guy collapsed in the pits with a reported stress related condition. So no one should say anything and the guy dies, then people say, well he was very large.

 

No one is taking the P. If I smoked and someone said those fags will kill you I wouldn't take offence. I would know they would. But when someone is clearly overweight some people seem afraid to mention it.

 

I went up to over 100kg a few years ago. I was Fat. Now I am a much better and healthier 84kg. Telling someone they are obese and should do something about it is not wrong. His mates should encourage him to get fit.

[LisaColette]

Trouble with it is it depends on each persons relationship with food. Some people eat more when they feel sad. So telling someone in that scenario that they are obese will have a bad effect. If you are going to go down that route then the other person needs to be half way there in hearing it.

 

You can lose a fair bit of weight by cutting down on portion size!

Edited July 15, 2017 by lisa-colette

[RobMcCaffery]

The guy collapsed in the pits with a reported stress related condition. So no one should say anything and the guy dies, then people say, well he was very large.

 

No one is taking the P. If I smoked and someone said those fags will kill you I wouldn't take offence. I would know they would. But when someone is clearly overweight some people seem afraid to mention it.

 

I went up to over 100kg a few years ago. I was Fat. Now I am a much better and healthier 84kg. Telling someone they are obese and should do something about it is not wrong. His mates should encourage him to get fit.

There is one thing stating facts, and another having the tact and intelligence to know when to post such facts are grossly insensitive. You have demonstrated over many years both here and in previous discussion groups that you have neither.

 

You have overstepped the line here and if this forum were properly run you would be out on your backside for that.

 

I realise your twisted 'fun' here is in stating garbage just to provoke reactions to satisfy your obviously deeply unpleasant needs.

 

In fact you didn't just cross that line, you jumped over with both feet. You asked once who I was. I can tell you, I'm someone who would never behave like you do for your own sad gratification.

 

Yes this IS attacking the poster, not the post, and you damn well deserve it you sickening low-life. Piss off.

 

I'll probably earn a ban for this. As ever, it's the ones who provoke who get away with it and those who react who get hurt.

 

The sport and this forum really, really would be better without you. You are a cancer in speedway.

Edited July 15, 2017 by Rob McCaffery

[Halifaxtiger]

You're post is ridiculous.

 

Way over the top.

 

Why are you getting so mad for?

 

Rob has lost his temper here but he has a point.

 

I'd say referring to Dale's weight at a time when he has been taken ill is not only absolutely unnecessary its also pretty repugnant.

 

Surely its just a matter at this time of wishing him well and hoping for a speedy recovery ?

[Steve Shovlar]

Sorry if I have offended. It was most certainly not my intention. But a major problem is always people too afraid to speak up. My initial post was certainly not taking the P. I was told to lose weight by several people and did so. The benefits in being told and acting on the honest advice have improved my life ten fold.

 

I am not going to get into a slanging match with anyone over this. I was told by my doctor that part of the problem is people are too afraid to speak up for fear of offending, when it is far better to offend than lose someone and regret not speaking after it is too late.

 

Thats all I have to say on the matter.

 

I hope he makes a full and speedy recovery.

Edited July 16, 2017 by Steve Shovlar

[Mimmo]

Sorry if I have offended but a major problem is always people too afraid to speak out. My initial post was ceetainly not taking the P. I was told to lose weight and did so. The benefits in being told and acting on the advice have improved my life ten fold.

 

I am not going to get into a slanging match with anyone over this. I was told by my doctor that part of the problem is people are too afraid to speak up for fear of offending, when it is far better to offend than lose someone and regret not speaking after it is too late.

 

Thats all I have to say on the matter.

 

I hope he makes a full and speedy recovery.

All I'm going to say on this subject, is the fact that you don't know Dale Allitt personally, but I do.

 

If you knew the countless hours of sweat he's put in at the gym over the past couple of years, along with his eating habits he has to adhere to most of the time, you would never have said what you did.

 

Reply if you wish, but this will be my only posting on the matter, other than to congratulate you on losing the weight that you did, and to Dale for the weight he's lost in the past 24-months.

[Gavan]

Nice to see others getting mad at Shovlar. The man is simply a troll and uses a poor man being unwell for another daft post. November 2003 I caught tonsillitis off of my daughter. This morphed into strep A pneumonia. I was in a coma for 3 weeks (when my work colleagues changed my avatar!). I'm lucky to be here but this I think is the first time I've mentioned it on the forum. I was 11 stone 8. Don't smoke either and rarely drink. I was struck down. To slate someone for their weight whilst they still not right is crass at best

[Steve Shovlar]

All I'm going to say on this subject, is the fact that you don't know Dale Allitt personally, but I do.

 

If you knew the countless hours of sweat he's put in at the gym over the past couple of years, along with his eating habits he has to adhere to most of the time, you would never have said what you did.

 

Reply if you wish, but this will be my only posting on the matter, other than to congratulate you on losing the weight that you did, and to Dale for the weight he's lost in the past 24-months.

No I don't know him and clearly in retrospect I should not have said anything on here. I was not trying to be antagonistic or offensive at all but people are afraid to speak up on such matters.

 

I am glad he is doing something about it like I did and wish him well.

Edited July 16, 2017 by Steve Shovlar

[waytogo28]

I think we could congratulate S S on dealing with his post on Dale in a positive, sincere apology. I do congratulate him . Steve is outspoken and he is right that no subject should be taboo, but we should talk about it in a sensitive way, at an appropriate time.

[5 FURROW]

. The guy who does the big screen info took over as team manager. Rob Lyon was nowhere to be seen although I had seen him earlier.

Hopefully Rob Lyon had exited early with total guilt as he's the co promoter and allegedly running the show he's the one that should carry the can but still he maybe another with a don't care attitude

People who are hugely obese are at risk of death at an early age. It brings on stress, heart conditions and a multitude of other health issues. Sorry but its a fact. He has probably been told by doctors and should do something about it for his own wellbeing.

I don't think he is quite as obese as your sarcastic gob is

[SteveLyric2]

Anyone know if Mr Allitt's collapse happened before, after or during the conflab that resulted in the riders' refusal to race??

[mrss]

Dale was taken ill while remedial work was being done on the track. What difference does it make? Hopefully Dale will be back to normal as soon as possible.

[SteveLyric2]

It was reported that his illness was 'stress-related' - I just wondered if it was down to the stress caused by some of his riders refusing to race, that's all!!?

[hagonshocker]

Would imagine there is more stress in everyday life than managing a poxy speedway team...ludicrous to even think a couple of riders moaning would result in a trip to the hospital there could be an underlying issue that had built up, I've suffered from recent anxiety and stress but thankfully have had it dealt with for the better , it's surprising how it can affect your attitude to life and people ...would like to congratulate Steve on losing the weight I've done similar stood on the scales in early March weighed 16'3 nearly passed out but now down to 12'12 and another stone to go it's amazing how physically and mentally improved you can feel! Best wishes to Dale

[g13webb]

It was reported that his illness was 'stress-related' - I just wondered if it was down to the stress caused by some of his riders refusing to race, that's all!!?

 

I know of Dale because of my connection with the club, It is true I have never thought his appointment of team manager was right and always thought it was a decision made through convenience rather than expertise... I do not know him personally, but when we have spoken he has always bothered with a replied. My biggest fear of Dale as TM was he lacked the authority of making decisions when it mattered.

 

Looking into the pits, last Thursday, Dale found himself between a Rock and hard place. he was in a no-win situation. He was smack in the middle of every argument. On one hand, he has Holder trying to get riders to agree with him about the track, and on the other, he has Buster having a go at him for the riders not riding. I really did feel for him. It came as no surprise when hearing the news that Dale had collapsed and taken to hospital. Though not official, I am of the impression his situation was totally caused by the dynamics of the situation.

 

If he had had the authority to tell Holder to man-up/shut-up, or to tell Buster to sort the track out, probably his collapse could have been averted..

 

Pleased to hear Dale is back at home recovering well...

[Agrotron]

Sorry just read the above glad he is home and recovering well

Edited July 17, 2017 by Pirate Oliver

[waytogo28]

 

I know of Dale because of my connection with the club, It is true I have never thought his appointment of team manager was right and always thought it was a decision made through convenience rather than expertise... I do not know him personally, but when we have spoken he has always bothered with a replied. My biggest fear of Dale as TM was he lacked the authority of making decisions when it mattered.

 

Looking into the pits, last Thursday, Dale found himself between a Rock and hard place. he was in a no-win situation. He was smack in the middle of every argument. On one hand, he has Holder trying to get riders to agree with him about the track, and on the other, he has Buster having a go at him for the riders not riding. I really did feel for him. It came as no surprise when hearing the news that Dale had collapsed and taken to hospital. Though not official, I am of the impression his situation was totally caused by the dynamics of the situation.

 

If he had had the authority to tell Holder to man-up/shut-up, or to tell Buster to sort the track out, probably his collapse could have been averted..

 

Pleased to hear Dale is back at home recovering well...

 

A big part in all of this is that in truth Dale Allit and Rob Lyon have no real authority to demand either of the above. The power at KLS still comes from the owner, why else did Rob Lyon duck the issue?