Game On Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Does anyone think Batchelor and Holder are heading to Poole to replace KK and Klindt? Something very fishy about last night and i dont think it had anything to do with the track. Only you in your deluded little world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) Bournemouth Echo http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/15411579.amp/ Eastern Daily Press http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/buster-chapman-apologises-to-king-s-lynn-stars-fans-and-has-a-dig-at-some-of-his-riders-1-5106314?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it Doesn't take a scientist to work out who the problems were last night. If they're not sacked, I will not be backing Holder and Batchelor again. As far as I'm concerned, we're a 5 man team with 2 individuals. I want them out regardless of the damage it'll cause for the rest of 2017. I'm devastated that Gavin Carney has quite as the announcer, such a sad situation. How do you know what the problem was? Once again the promoters put out press releases blaming the riders and nobody asks the riders themselves what was wrong. The story going round Lakeside tonight from a couple of sources was that because the sidecar championship was being held tonight Capman tried to get away with one track prep instead of two, and prepared it for sidecars in a way totally unsuitable for solos. I don't know how much truth there is in that but it ill becomes the chairman of the BSPA to try to bad mouth the riders when it's his track and he must know exactly what the problem was, but didnt say. This could be the cumination of complaints by riders about the track over a period of time that just erupted. Unless and until someone asks the riders we won't have the full picture. As for Muddlo he has made a career out of sneering at other teams riders when problems like this arise. As Andrew. silver once saiid many years ago, the promoters risk their money, the riders risk their lives-so deal with it. Bottom line is not only are these things an indictment of the way the sport is run the problem is compounded by the totally amateurish way they wash their dirty linen in public. Edited July 14, 2017 by E I Addio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 and it was a woman apparantly who goaded Robert. looking at my pictures, she was wearing an Iversen jacket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 E I Addio said " Bottom line is not only are these things an indictment of the way the sport is run the problem is compounded by the totally amateurish way they wash their dirty linen in public." It is done this way just to muddy the waters even more - Chapman's statement was just to speed up the process of sweeping things under the carpet and "move on" hoping not to lose even more supporters along the way. He has definitely lost a goodly number more this time. We still do not know and he did not say - who ordered the two KL riders not to come out for heat 9? Was it the team manager or the riders themselves who started the protest / rebellion and who didn't give a fig for the fans? If it was the riders why was no action taken against them by the ref? If it was the promotion why have they not been censured? Is the referee's report on the meeting made public? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 any news on the team manager,is he still in hospital? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 The SCB should impose similar fines to those given to Coventry management and riders in that infamous Bees v Pirates Sky meeting a few seasons ago - albeit the fine for the club was later rescinded!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 How do you know what the problem was? Once again the promoters put out press releases blaming the riders and nobody asks the riders themselves what was wrong. The story going round Lakeside tonight from a couple of sources was that because the sidecar championship was being held tonight Capman tried to get away with one track prep instead of two, and prepared it for sidecars in a way totally unsuitable for solos. I don't know how much truth there is in that but it ill becomes the chairman of the BSPA to try to bad mouth the riders when it's his track and he must know exactly what the problem was, but didnt say. This could be the cumination of complaints by riders about the track over a period of time that just erupted. Unless and until someone asks the riders we won't have the full picture. As for Muddlo he has made a career out of sneering at other teams riders when problems like this arise. As Andrew. silver once saiid many years ago, the promoters risk their money, the riders risk their lives-so deal with it. Bottom line is not only are these things an indictment of the way the sport is run the problem is compounded by the totally amateurish way they wash their dirty linen in public. You have a pop at me who was there saying how do I know what the problem is then go on about what the problem is from a couple of shocking "sources" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 what... you don't get it from your mate at the motocross track... i'm shocked Its cheaper on subscription as I have my pension to consider!!! In any case I wouldn't see 'my mate' during the winter months, other than at one of the monthly Poole fans' social evenings/quiz nights!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 any news on the team manager,is he still in hospital?recovering at home i read somewhere? Peterborough website maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Also going to be having more tests done from the statement i read a min ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Would seem that K.Chapman has got some serious thinking to do, and needs to make crucial decisions within a short time. The future of Kings Lynn speedway is at stake, so he needs to get it right. No pressure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Who took over as Team Manager after he was taken to hospital? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunce Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Who took over as Team Manager after he was taken to hospital? I think it was Lieutenant Fletcher Christian ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 I asked my Geordie mate if this was correct and he replied "Aye, well he's bound te." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Also going to be having more tests done from the statement i read a min ago. Looking at photos of him, he isn't exactly the picture of health. He needs to lose a kilo or 20. Being obese certainly doesn't help blood pressure and stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 You have a pop at me who was there saying how do I know what the problem is then go on about what the problem is from a couple of shocking "sources" I put the information out for what it's worth as a discussion point. It's not beyond the realms of possibly but the fact is that both promotions blame the riders on a limited amoun of fact made public. We don't gave the riders version of it, and Chapman hasn't said specifically what was wrong with it. Either they should give the full facts or just apologise to the dAnd and move on. Just blaming the riders on one side of the story is a very old fashioned and amateurish way of dealing with it. People are bound to speculate. This is part of th problem with most promoters. Whatever goes wrong is everybody else's fault except theirs. They have too face up to the fact that the buck stops with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 I put the information out for what it's worth as a discussion point. It's not beyond the realms of possibly but the fact is that both promotions blame the riders on a limited amoun of fact made public. We don't gave the riders version of it, and Chapman hasn't said specifically what was wrong with it. Either they should give the full facts or just apologise to the dAnd and move on. Just blaming the riders on one side of the story is a very old fashioned and amateurish way of dealing with it. People are bound to speculate. This is part of th problem with most promoters. Whatever goes wrong is everybody else's fault except theirs. They have too face up to the fact that the buck stops with them. Both stories point in the same direction, and 2 rider's refused to continue while everyone else carried on. Regardless of their opinion their teammates clearly didn't agree with them. Packing their gear away while the outcome of the meeting hasn't been decided is not acceptable regardless. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted July 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Who took over as Team Manager after he was taken to hospital?. The guy who does the big screen info took over as team manager. Rob Lyon was nowhere to be seen although I had seen him earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Both stories point in the same direction, and 2 rider's refused to continue while everyone else carried on. Regardless of their opinion their teammates clearly didn't agree with them. Packing their gear away while the outcome of the meeting hasn't been decided is not acceptable regardless. We are getting into two separate things now. Under Regulation14.9.2 it is the referees job to ensure that all riders programmed to participate remain until the close of the meeting unless declared unfit to ride by the Medicsl Officer ( which presumably covers Batchelor) or upon a specific request from the Clerk of the Course to allow the rider to leave earlier. Now, the referee, from his box won't necessarily know who is coming and going unless someone tells him, so that begs the question did the Clerk of the Course get permission from the ref for Holder to leave before the end of the meeting (assumming you are right in saying he left early) or did the Clerk of the Course and indeed Chapman watch him go and do nothing about it ? One presumes the BSPA Chairman knows his own organisations rules about riders leaving before the meeting was concluded, so what really is going on ?If Chapman was that upset at the time why didn't he do something about Holder leaving early? Did he tell the ref or not ? No good complaining if he stood by and let it happen.That really seems to support my point that the fans don't know the half of it from the press reports. Quite apart from riders leaving early they have not been given a platform to express their version of it. It's Chapmans track, it would be easy for him to say to the fans "Look we had this or that problem preparing the track we did this to try to fix it and most riders were happy with that." Fans are not stupid. They know when a promoter is being straight and will understand unforeseen problems if there were any, but simply running off crying to the press blaming the riders but leaving other questions unanswered is not the way to go about things. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Ive given up on reading the last half a dozen pages but the promotors just don't get it, I thought of having a ride to Swindon but with no Doyle thought shall I make a night of it and ride down to KL where I've always enjoyed the meetings but with the feed back of late thought it's a bit risky. You know what I went up the pub and spent £9.65 instead of at least treble that for KL. oh yeh and I had a better night by the sounds of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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