chunky Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 No, I am not going to start a new series of threads gustix-style, but I am adding this one purely for my esteemed colleague Norbold! Vic Huxley Ronnie Moore Ade Hoole Mick Handley TOM FARNDON Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Thank you, Steve, the thought is much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 There was an Aussie who rode in the 80s. What was his name? Dave... something.... Oh yeah, Dave Cheshire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Three of the five named in Chunky's list were at least at some stage of their career, widely regarded as the best rider in the world. Must have something to do with the cheese their forefathers ate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Ronnie Moore? :shock: Cheshire? :shock: OK - tell me what I am missing here. I'll be the fall guy. Surely he was from Tasmania? I somehow know that you venerable Speedway luminaries will have an answer - but I'm damned if I can see what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Ronnie Moore? :shock: Cheshire? :shock: OK - tell me what I am missing here. I'll be the fall guy. Surely he was from Tasmania? I somehow know that you venerable Speedway luminaries will have an answer - but I'm damned if I can see what it is. Definitely Chershire, TWK, just like Les Moore and Ray Moore. All Cheshire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Ronnie Moore? :shock: Cheshire? :shock: OK - tell me what I am missing here. I'll be the fall guy. Surely he was from Tasmania? I somehow know that you venerable Speedway luminaries will have an answer - but I'm damned if I can see what it is. I think you are missing the point of this thread.It's very similar to the best riders from Lancashire thread. There's a good reason Declan ECCLES is included ahead of Peter Collins for example And can I just say wash your mouth out TWK. Ronnie may have been born is Tasmania but he's "from" NZ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted July 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 I think you are missing the point of this thread. It's very similar to the best riders from Lancashire thread. There's a good reason Declan ECCLES is included ahead of Peter Collins for example And can I just say wash your mouth out TWK. Ronnie may have been born is Tasmania but he's "from" NZ! Well, PC was from Cheshire anyway!!! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Well, PC was from Cheshire anyway!!! Steve Ah, good point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 As were all 5 Collins family from Cheshire, plus Chris and Dave Morton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) I think you are missing the point of this thread. It's very similar to the best riders from Lancashire thread. There's a good reason Declan ECCLES is included ahead of Peter Collins for example And can I just say wash your mouth out TWK. Ronnie may have been born is Tasmania but he's "from" NZ! ...Tasmania comes under the flag of Australia so Ronnie was actually born Australian and could have ridden for Australia but chose, instead, to ride for New Zealand...his adopted home. Edited July 5, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 ...Tasmania comes under the flag of Australia so Ronnie was actually born Australian and could have ridden for Australia but chose, instead, to ride for New Zealand...his adopted home.Being a kiwi I'm reasonably aware of where Tasmania is! My point is that there is a difference between being born somewhere and being "from" somewhere. My brother was born in Huddersfield, but he's say he's from NZ given that he's only lived in the uk for 3 out of 34 years of his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Being a kiwi I'm reasonably aware of where Tasmania is! My point is that there is a difference between being born somewhere and being "from" somewhere. My brother was born in Huddersfield, but he's say he's from NZ given that he's only lived in the uk for 3 out of 34 years of his life. ...er yes I understand what you were implying with your initial post to which I added an observation that Ronnie could have chosen to ride for either his place of birth, and presumably parentage, Australia (which I understand he seriously considered way back when he started out on his long career) or New Zealand. I recall Mitch Shirra had a similar choice (and if I recall did actually turn out for Australia) before adopting New Zealand although, apparently, he could have ridden for Scotland as well! There's obviously a differential margin where one was born and where one was bred...some people chose either depending on the criteria under discussion whether it sport or other walks of life. PS Having visited Huddersfield I can well understand why your brother regards himself as a Kiwi! Edited July 5, 2017 by steve roberts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Ronnie did actually ride for Australia.Think it might have been the first country he rode for,then went on to choose NZ Indeed.In his first season in the UK Ronnie rode for Australia against England at Wimbledon.Not sure if this was his international debut though http://www.internationalspeedway.co.uk/engvaus2.htm 1951,52 and 53 he was also in the Australian team Edited July 5, 2017 by iris123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Ronnie Moore? :shock: Cheshire? :shock: OK - tell me what I am missing here. I'll be the fall guy. Surely he was from Tasmania? I somehow know that you venerable Speedway luminaries will have an answer - but I'm damned if I can see what it is. You've exactly the same as I did on the Lancashire thread - read only the title and not the opening posts - doh! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted July 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Ronnie did actually ride for Australia.Think it might have been the first country he rode for,then went on to choose NZ Indeed.In his first season in the UK Ronnie rode for Australia against England at Wimbledon.Not sure if this was his international debut though http://www.internationalspeedway.co.uk/engvaus2.htm 1951,52 and 53 he was also in the Australian team Absolutely correct. Ronnie spent his first few years riding for Australia, and his early World Finals were as an Australian. Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 ...er yes I understand what you were implying with your initial post to which I added an observation that Ronnie could have chosen to ride for either his place of birth, and presumably parentage, Australia (which I understand he seriously considered way back when he started out on his long career) or New Zealand. I recall Mitch Shirra had a similar choice (and if I recall did actually turn out for Australia) before adopting New Zealand although, apparently, he could have ridden for Scotland as well! There's obviously a differential margin where one was born and where one was bred...some people chose either depending on the criteria under discussion whether it sport or other walks of life. PS Having visited Huddersfield I can well understand why your brother regards himself as a Kiwi! :rofl: But at least they have a Premier League Football Team - Ooops!! :unsure: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Absolutely correct. Ronnie spent his first few years riding for Australia, and his early World Finals were as an Australian. Steve What a great record Ronnie had he appeared in 14 world Finals and to think he also had a gap in his riding career 1963 until 1969 six seasons out ( Why was that.??? was it businesss interests.?? LEGEND. Edited July 5, 2017 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 What a great record Ronnie had he appeared in 14 world Finals and to think he also had a gap in his riding career 1963 until 1969 six seasons out ( Why was that.??? was it businesss interests.?? LEGEND. Think Ronnie had two breaks from the sport.He swapped to car racing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Moore_(speedway_rider) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 What a great record Ronnie had he appeared in 14 world Finals and to think he also had a gap in his riding career 1963 until 1969 six seasons out ( Why was that.??? was it businesss interests.?? LEGEND. Saw Ronnie ride twice during his last season in Britain (1972) and it was clear then what a class act he still was. I remember him scoring 14 points at Poole whilst riding for 'The Dons' and during an end of season challenge at Tilehurst (Reading). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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