Mark Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/694695/adrian-miedzinski-jest-zagrozeniem-dla-siebie-i-innych-powinien-zostac-przebadan This article does not translate well but its incredible to read. It says that Meidzinski is a danger to others riders but this stems from concussion a few years ago. A Doctor claims Miedzinski has no idea when to shut of the gas or any thought of self preservation. It needs proper translation. . Edited June 20, 2017 by marky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/694695/adrian-miedzinski-jest-zagrozeniem-dla-siebie-i-innych-powinien-zostac-przebadan This article does not translate well but its incredible to read. It says that Meidzinski is a danger to others riders but this stems from concussion a few years ago. A Doctor claims Miedzinski has no idea when to shut of the gas or any thought of self preservation. It needs proper translation. . I'd say Miedzinski needs a proper translation himself. He was involved in the incident which put Emil Sayfutdinov out of the GP series in 2013, just when Emil was looking like a potential champion. Edited June 20, 2017 by Rob McCaffery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawel115 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Lot of people are suggesting that he Miedzinski should have some psych testing cause he is a danger to himself and others and this has been going on for a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 He seriously need looking into even if this report is half right. He did more then enough damage to Emil - I never forget that crash. Its one thing being a danger to yourself, but when others are put at risk its time to protect others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 What was Nicki Pedersen's excuse, I read once where he said he wasn't in total control of his bike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Isn't he the most (with 4) excluded rider in Polish speedway at the moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Isn't he the most (with 4) excluded rider in Polish speedway at the moment?I'm no fan of Miedzinski but I'm not convinced he deserved the exclusion for the clash with Doyle. Doyle lifted and moved to the right entering the turn. I wasn't sure what Miedzinski did wrong in that clash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 I'm no fan of Miedzinski but I'm not convinced he deserved the exclusion for the clash with Doyle. Doyle lifted and moved to the right entering the turn. I wasn't sure what Miedzinski did wrong in that clash. That`s not how I saw it at all, IMO Miedzinski was turning left on Doyle most of the way down the home straight and was rightly excluded. What does everyone else think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzNXb5bF5_c 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 So its heat 14, restarted after first bend incident between Doyle and Medzinski, in rerun Medzinski goes from the fence straight to inside but Doyle already there. Medzinski goes into fence but persime thats where Doyle got injury to right foot. Medzinskis move was similar to what Nicki Pedersen did in one of his two GPs this year - took someone to the fence then wants to go to the inside all in one move - not on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 So its heat 14, restarted after first bend incident between Doyle and Medzinski, in rerun Medzinski goes from the fence straight to inside but Doyle already there. Medzinski goes into fence but persime thats where Doyle got injury to right foot. Medzinskis move was similar to what Nicki Pedersen did in one of his two GPs this year - took someone to the fence then wants to go to the inside all in one move - not on . There's one thing being a hard and determined rider, and then there's injuring people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 That`s not how I saw it at all, IMO Miedzinski was turning left on Doyle most of the way down the home straight and was rightly excluded. What does everyone else think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzNXb5bF5_c Doyle is no stranger to hard/dirty riding. I didn't really see that Miedzinski did anything wrong in the first one, Doyle bailed out to get the rerun. In the rerun Doyle lifted and turned in later than you'd expect - if he hadn't a collision may have been avoided but I don't think there was anything malicious in that one from either of them, just a racing incident when two came together. Can't comment on Miedzinski's other misdemeanours as I don't recall seeing them. There is a difference between hard and dirty riding and certainly Doyle oversteps in my view on occasion, as did Lindgren before him, NP and Gollob before that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) If you not seen Emil - Miedzinski crash August 2013 take a look. Finished Emils year whe he was in with a strong chance of being world champ, and who knows if its still affecting him now. Certainly as he gets older he will suffer with his heath because of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da-5O8wY_RA and Emil was excluded! Edited June 21, 2017 by OveFundinFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Was certainly a bad crash but still nothing like as dirty as I've seen some when they go right to the fence - in the old days the guy on the outside would shut off knowing the gap would close. He must have known Emil was there because he didn't go right to the fence and in fact moved away from it but it was enough to cause the crash. I'm not convinced it was deliberate move to knock him off. Now Ben Howe on Ronni Pedersen at Peterborough is a different story, as were some of the Gollob and NP moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Doyle is no stranger to hard/dirty riding. I didn't really see that Miedzinski did anything wrong in the first one, Doyle bailed out to get the rerun. In the rerun Doyle lifted and turned in later than you'd expect - if he hadn't a collision may have been avoided but I don't think there was anything malicious in that one from either of them, just a racing incident when two came together. Can't comment on Miedzinski's other misdemeanours as I don't recall seeing them. There is a difference between hard and dirty riding and certainly Doyle oversteps in my view on occasion, as did Lindgren before him, NP and Gollob before that.regarding latest Meeting I agree with you Miedzinski did not do much wrong was pushed out in 1st running and Doyle jumped off. 50/50 in rerun IMO if Doyle hadn't lifted he would not have collided with.There was some very hard moves from a number of riders in that meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 That`s not how I saw it at all, IMO Miedzinski was turning left on Doyle most of the way down the home straight and was rightly excluded. What does everyone else think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzNXb5bF5_c It's not dirty as he was on the outside and was the vulnerable rider. It could be described as a clash of two determined riders. Neither wanted to shut off the gas. As for the Emil crash. I've seen a lot worse moves in the GP's. It was a ruthless move but that is hard racing. Emil could have shut off the gas and no accident would have happened. Emil kept the gas on and hit the fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawkins20 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 IMO it had nothing to do with Doyle lifting or not. Just look where Miedzinski and other riders starts to turn left. He had no chance getting his bike in front of Doyle, he is half a bike behind it was an utterly dumb move and extremely dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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