Sidney the robin Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 I have just been doing some research on the 1935 Wimbledon Dons team god they finished bottom of the league.Looking at a photograph i have which included Norman Pritchard ( manager)- Gus Kuhn - Wal Phillips - Claude Rye - Wal Morton- T.Clarke (trainer)- Geoff Pymar- Vic Huxley- Syd Edmonds_. Jack Sharp they looked a pretty good team.They won only 8 league matches out of 24 to collect the wooden spoon.Can anyone add anything to this year and team anything would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 In 1978 in the Wimbledon match programmes they did a series of listing all of their contracted riders for the beginning - here is what they listed for 1935. Eric Collins Vic Huxley Syd Jackson Gus Khan Fred Levis ? Lemon (sorry no Christian name in the programme) Wal Phillips Geoff Pymar Bill Rogers Claude Rye Alf Sawford Jack Sharpe Wal Morton Hope this helps out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) In 1978 in the Wimbledon match programmes they did a series of listing all of their contracted riders for the beginning - here is what they listed for 1935. Eric Collins Vic Huxley Syd Jackson Gus Khan Fred Levis ? Lemon (sorry no Christian name in the programme) Wal Phillips Geoff Pymar Bill Rogers Claude Rye Alf Sawford Jack Sharpe Wal Morton Hope this helps out. Stan Lemon rode for Wimbledon a few times in 1931, 1934 and 1935, he then appeared for Hall Green and Eastbourne in 1938, moving on to Belle Vue Reserves and Stoke in 1939. He won the Championship of Sussex at Eastbourne in 1933. Edited June 20, 2017 by BL65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) It must be Stan Lemon then. All I know is what the programme states. Also I think Jack Sharpe should be Jack Sharp. Edited June 20, 2017 by Robbie B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 In 1978 in the Wimbledon match programmes they did a series of listing all of their contracted riders for the beginning - here is what they listed for 1935. Eric Collins Vic Huxley Syd Jackson Gus Khan Fred Levis ? Lemon (sorry no Christian name in the programme) Wal Phillips Geoff Pymar Bill Rogers Claude Rye Alf Sawford Jack Sharpe Wal Morton Hope this helps out. Thanks "Robbie!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 No probs if there are other Wimbledon teams you require please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 That was one of my favourite features in the 1978 progs! I still have the master list of all those teams that Derek Holder gave me. On the subject, anyone know if Derek is still around? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) Details of Wimbledon riders in 1935, and other seasons, as well as for other clubs between 1928 and 2005 can be found on the LINK. Enter the site, then scroll down to find the section LONDON SPEEDWAY HISTORY, then go LONDON TEAM SQUADS. http://londonspeedways.proboards.com Edited June 20, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 In 1978 in the Wimbledon match programmes they did a series of listing all of their contracted riders for the beginning - here is what they listed for 1935. Eric Collins Vic Huxley Syd Jackson Gus Khan Fred Levis ? Lemon (sorry no Christian name in the programme) Wal Phillips Geoff Pymar Bill Rogers Claude Rye Alf Sawford Jack Sharpe Wal Morton Hope this helps out. Not a relation of Sadiq,who was born and grew up near the stadium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) 1935 Wimbledon rider Gus Kuhn. The London Speedways website lists these riders for Wimbledon in 1935: WIMBLEDON: Vic Huxley, Geoff Pymar, Wal Phillips, Gus Kuhn, Sid Jackson, Claude Rye, Jack Sharpe, Bill Rogers, Eric Collins, Bert Spencer, Ron Howes, Alf Sawford, Wal Morton, Arthur Westwood, Wally Little, Keith Harvey, Stan Lemon, Fred Leavis. There are differences to the team squad for 1935 posted earlier by Robbie B. Edited June 20, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 South African rider Keith Harvey is listed as a possible 1935 member of the Wimbledon team. He also had links with other London tracks over the years - High Beech (King's Oak), Stamford Bridge, West Ham, Crystal Palace and New Cross. He was 32 years old when he made his speedway debut in 1929 and was past his 50th birthday when he retired at New Cross in June 1947. Although a South African, he never rode on speedway in his home country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Wal Morton!!! Just how many teams did he ride for? Wandering Wal of the Raceways!!! Some info on Wal http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=16517&page=2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 I have just read in an article that i had that in the disastrous 1935 year Wimbledon decided to split the strong Huxley/ Pymar partnership up.This was to try and change there fortunes but nothing really changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) Wimbledon 1935: Matches/Average Vic Huxley 24/8.71 Syd Jackson 14/6.37 Gus Kuhn 20/5.83 Wal Phillips 23/5.66 Jack Sharp 22/5.52 Geoff Pymar 24/5.46 Wal Morton 13/5.07 Claude Rye 8/4.74 Alf Sawford 2/4.00 Eric Collins 9/3.83 Ron Howes 1/0.00 Wimbledon won six of their first nine fixtures including three away. They then lost nine fixtures on the trot. It was said that the main reason for this loss of form was Syd Jackson, who suffered a shoulder injury mid term and on his return could only manage nine points.However, every single rider suffered a loss of form compared to their 1934 averages. Vic Huxley dropping from 10.31 to 8.71 for example. They not only finished bottom of the league but were also bottom of their ACU pool and were beaten comprehensively by Harringay in both the National Trophy and the London Cup. Edited June 20, 2017 by norbold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) Many thanks for your input Norbold it's nice to have the averages and some new names for the team list that wasn't in the Wimbledon programmes in 1978. Edited June 21, 2017 by Robbie B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Great stuff Norbold" really helped a lot , your figures did show that the spectacular Syd Edmonds was regressing a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 The problem with getting these old team line-up is that they are mainly made up of those who raced in team events. In those days clubs also had contract riders who never appeared in a team match. That's why whatever list is produced they are also sketchy - I think that earlier in the 1930s that Alvin 'Spike' Rhiando was a contract Wimbledon junior. He later became a leading midget car driver and post WW2 appeared in big circuit Formula 500 car racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) I totally agree with you there gustix but there's another issue regarding Wimbledon and that's their speedway office was completely destroyed by a bomb dropped by the Germans in 1943. Who knows what paperwork was lost during because of this incident. Edited June 21, 2017 by Robbie B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 You think 1935 was bad...1937 was a disaster! The newly installed promoter from Bristol must have wondered what he'd let himself in for as the Dons lost every fixture until September. Luckily, they managed to defeat Hackney and ended the campaign with a mere 2 victories. And the Promoter in question, one Ronald W Greene! Luckily for the Dons fans, Mr Greene stayed around for another 33 years to oversee events at Plough Lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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