Hamish McRaker Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Natalie is great. But I get the feeling she is trying to flog a dead horse attempting to entice Nicholls to stray from the utterly banal and bleeping obvious. She is very professional in not allowing her frustration to show in that respect, unlike Perry who occasionally does. Pearson reminds me of a rather poor version of Murray Walker. His brain and mouth don't seem to be in complete synch. Tatum tries to play the James Hunt role apart from the hollering. And this thing with deliberately using the stock phrases is well past it's sellby date. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) Ok my thoughts on BT and the studio. I think the BT coverage is pretty good, but the studio part is very mundane. Natalie is fine, but Scott Nicholls is too afraid to speak his mind or say anything slightly controversial in fear of upsetting one of his mates, or rocking the boat with the authorities. There is controvesy and nothing is said. Stuff is brushed away when it should be debated. Personally, there needs to be another face in the studio either alongside Nicholls or to even replace him. A third person might inject wider debate and bring up incidents, talking openly, if they are not tied to the sport like Nicholls is. How about a fan going on, or an ex rider who says things as it is? Personally I like Pearson and Tatum. They are very enthusiastic and it shows, similar to the Polish commentators in the extraleague, who also ger very shouty. Rather have commentary like that than the sec comentary team, who still do a decent job if a more matter of fact style. Edited July 8, 2017 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Ok my thoughts on BT and the studio. I think the BT coverage is pretty good, but the studio part is very mundane. Natalie is fine, but Scott Nicholls is too afraid to speak his mind or say anything slightly controversial in fear of upsetting one of his mates, or rocking the boat with the authorities. There is controvesy and nothing is said. Stuff is brushed away when it should be debated. Personally, there needs to be another face in the studio either alongside Nicholls or to even replace him. A third person might inject wider debate and bring up incidents, talking openly, if they are not tied to the sport like Nicholls is. How about a fan going on, or an ex rider who says things as it is? Personally I like Pearson and Tatum. They are very enthusiastic and it shows, similar to the Polish commentators in the extraleague, who also ger very shouty. Rather have commentary like that than the sec comentary team, who still do a decent job if a more matter of fact style. Good points, especially regarding a third studio guest, a bit like when sky used to have say Loram & Havelock, (no I'm not advocating Havelock), their conversation would naturally generate debate, it needs to be someone who won't pull any punches. Any ideas? I can't think of anyone off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Good points, especially regarding a third studio guest, a bit like when sky used to have say Loram & Havelock, (no I'm not advocating Havelock), their conversation would naturally generate debate, it needs to be someone who won't pull any punches. Any ideas? I can't think of anyone off the top of my head. Peter Collins, Michael Lee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Peter Collins, Michael Lee? John Davis who comes over as very articulate...although was never a fan of his when a rider despite seeing him blossom at Oxford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 I think Michael Lee would do well as he is a good speaker and has forthright non establishment views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 I think Michael Lee would do well as he is a good speaker and has forthright non establishment views. TOO much baggage sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Bring back Dave Norris for the extra studio guest or even Joe Screen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Ok my thoughts on BT and the studio. I think the BT coverage is pretty good, but the studio part is very mundane. Natalie is fine, but Scott Nicholls is too afraid to speak his mind or say anything slightly controversial in fear of upsetting one of his mates, or rocking the boat with the authorities. There is controvesy and nothing is said. Stuff is brushed away when it should be debated. Personally, there needs to be another face in the studio either alongside Nicholls or to even replace him. A third person might inject wider debate and bring up incidents, talking openly, if they are not tied to the sport like Nicholls is. How about a fan going on, or an ex rider who says things as it is? Personally I like Pearson and Tatum. They are very enthusiastic and it shows, similar to the Polish commentators in the extraleague, who also ger very shouty. Rather have commentary like that than the sec comentary team, who still do a decent job if a more matter of fact style. Think you probably need an ex-rider in studio to get proper debate Scott is ok but does not want to diss any of his riding companions.David Norris !!Bring back Dave Norris for the extra studio guest or even Joe ScreenSee you just beat me to it regarding Norris!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Natalie is great. But I get the feeling she is trying to flog a dead horse attempting to entice Nicholls to stray from the utterly banal and bleeping obvious. She is very professional in not allowing her frustration to show in that respect, unlike Perry who occasionally does. Pearson reminds me of a rather poor version of Murray Walker. His brain and mouth don't seem to be in complete synch. Tatum tries to play the James Hunt role apart from the hollering. And this thing with deliberately using the stock phrases is well past it's sellby date. What has been quite interesting is, when Tatum has been the main commentator on the rare occasions, the shouting and screaming stops. A couple of years ago when the world team final was re-run on a Sunday morning Tatum and Louis were the commentators. Tatum as the lead was superb no shouting out, just sensible and very enjoyable commentary with Louis giving the more technical side of things. Imo that's how it should be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 lets hope B.T. pull the plug on speedway coverage ! it may stop a good few posters slagging the coverage off. just be thankful that there is some speedway on your tv. i dont understand fans bad mouthing the coverage off . its on tv for gods sake . enjoy it while . its there . murdoch has seen the last of my money and hopefully B.T. will see more of it in the coming years . but it wont be on if people keep twisting the knives in B.T.s back .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 lets hope B.T. pull the plug on speedway coverage ! it may stop a good few posters slagging the coverage off. just be thankful that there is some speedway on your tv. i dont understand fans bad mouthing the coverage off . its on tv for gods sake . enjoy it while . its there . murdoch has seen the last of my money and hopefully B.T. will see more of it in the coming years . but it wont be on if people keep twisting the knives in B.T.s back .. Think you'll find the vast majority of comments here regarding the coverage are constructive rather than 'bad mouthing', we're all grateful that BT took it on but there's no harm in commenting on how they may improve it. So I reckon you're the only one here who hopes they pull the plug. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Tai Woffinden in the studio during world cup week could spark some lively debate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Tai Woffinden in the studio during world cup week could spark some lively debate thank god you put a smiley after it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Tai Woffinden in the studio during world cup week could spark some lively debate Until he decided he didn't want people to know what he really thought and walked off set (tv version of deleting tweets) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Ok my thoughts on BT and the studio. I think the BT coverage is pretty good, but the studio part is very mundane. Natalie is fine, but Scott Nicholls is too afraid to speak his mind or say anything slightly controversial in fear of upsetting one of his mates, or rocking the boat with the authorities. There is controvesy and nothing is said. Stuff is brushed away when it should be debated. Personally, there needs to be another face in the studio either alongside Nicholls or to even replace him. A third person might inject wider debate and bring up incidents, talking openly, if they are not tied to the sport like Nicholls is. How about a fan going on, or an ex rider who says things as it is? Personally I like Pearson and Tatum. They are very enthusiastic and it shows, similar to the Polish commentators in the extraleague, who also ger very shouty. Rather have commentary like that than the sec comentary team, who still do a decent job if a more matter of fact style. Bit puzzled here because Nat and Scott do confront the issue head on after heat 16 - ok, maybe avoiding being too controversial, but they certainly don't entirely duck the issue. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Sky invent or at least promote the Joker? If BT are happy to maintain, or have some say in the continuation of this abomination of a rule, then all the presenters are in pretty much in an impossible position. How can they be seen to be criticising policies promoted by the people who employ them? My take on the presenters - Nat is wonderful, a breath of fresh air! Scott is good, articulate, just a tad bland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Nicholls is dreadful in the studio. Boring, dead pan & frightened to say anything controversial about any issue incase of upsetting someone. Waste of time & end up turning over in between rounds of heats when he's talking. He needs replacing asap. Quirk is ok & at least has a knowledge of the sport but is a bit too nice with Nicholls & can't get anything out of him. Tatum very good in his role & knows what he's talking about. Puts Pearson in his place as well at times. Pearson is too much of a kiss arse & is too close to the riders. He's a bit precious & obviously doesn't like any criticism of the himself, the sport or his favourite riders. Someone like a Darren Fletcher with Tatum would be ideal, although doubt he'd do it with EPL commentaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Peter Collins, Michael Lee? Nicki Pedersen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Nicki Pedersen? Well at least he would know what he is talking about - he would probably be entertaining too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Pearson is too much of a kiss arse & is too close to the riders. He's a bit precious & obviously doesn't like any criticism of the himself, the sport or his favourite riders. It wasn't me saying this.... But I of course fully endorse these comments. I missed the final but just watched the race off and it was like he was the Team USA press officer touting for jobs for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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