Haza Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 I'd have Sedgmen at Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 In place of whom, Haza? beating in mind averages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 If I didn't know any different , I would believe Buster is doing alll he can to really P--z people off. We started late, we had a 18min grading break after ht 6, then another 16min Interval / Grading break after ht 10.. Don't he realise people want to go home, they don't want to watch him driving that bloody tractor all night. When Twitter said Poole and Leicester had finished, we still had 4 races to run. Now if the track had been good, then probably we could except the delays. but when we consistently have this gate and go fiasco I don't see why we need so many delays.... The racing was poor too. apart from 2 or 3 exceptions most races were strung out and processional.. I must say speedway is not like it use to be.... Our team is poor when comparing it with the likes of Belle Vue. They like Wolves are light years ahead of us... With the exception of Huckenbeck they were better in every position. Ever race they had winners, If their HL (heat leader) faltered they had SS ( Second String) to step up. To provide only 4 race winners illustrates how poor we were. The fact we were within 1 point with only 1 race to go was down to the implementation of that stupid double point rule. Belle Vue were streets ahead and thoroughly deserved their success. It makes little sense challenging for them Play-off places when we perform like this. What is the point of competing a semi-final when we cant beat these teams on home soil. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrstarman29 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Another dire performance.. and another night of watching utter rubbish speedway.. I will always support the Stars but the last two weeks have been dreadful, and to top it off we have Buster and his team having a race with their tractors for 20 minutes. I'm sorry but I'm not paying £17 and not be entertained or at least see some sort of speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Great post GRW123 . Everything you said is correct. What I dont understand is Belle Vue are a good team yet they can still fit Tungate in. Poole are good and they get Starke. Stars are poor and we can only fit Jorgensen into he team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 In place of whom, Haza? beating in mind averages without knowing averages I can't answer all I'm saying Sedgmen would be a good addition to the side . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) So glad I went to a quiz night instead of this crock of rubbishe. Was not only royally entertained, also had a dish of snacks provided for each team and best of all we won so I ended up £16 better off. Take note semion, I'll let you know when the next one is I guess you'll be happy if Lynn go the same way as Coventry. By all means vent your frustration at your promotion, but fans staying away could lead to closure. Edited June 22, 2017 by hyderd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) I guess you will be happy when Lynn go the same way as Coventry. By all means vent your frustration at your promotion, but fans staying away could leads to closure. its a 2 way street Hyderd. For sure the fans should support the club, which they do ( otherwise there would be no club) in turn it is up to the promotion to offer something in return by way of entertainment for that support. As Kings Lynn fans we have been brought up on winning sod all ( at the top level, a couple of cups apart) but have always had a quality racing circuit ( until the last few years). That was our place in the swing of things and one that we have accepted over the years. Entertainment first, prizes second. Now we don't appear to have either. So where is the encouragement to go and hand over £17 plus of our hard earned money ? Note... Sorry. this is not meaning to sound like I'm replying on SL's behalf, as she is far more capable than me.. Edited June 22, 2017 by semion 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Your not going to keep paying out for something that you've stopped enjoying even if it means the end of your club. I was a season ticket holder up the baggies for about 12 years but fell out of love with the game so never go now. Would I be bothered if they went out of business, it'd be a shame but not going to go if I don't enjoy it or get vfm. Same principal with speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Another good away win for the Aces, but sad that Kings Lynn has fallen so far in terms of entertainment, it was one of the very best tracks that produced excellent racing on a consistent basis. As for Chapman being hailed as some sort of saviour for the sport on taking over the chair at the BSPA, well, he cant even sort his own club out let alone the mess that is British speedway. I really hope the Stars get back on track. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 its a 2 way street Hyderd. For sure the fans should support the club, which they do ( otherwise there would be no club) in turn it is up to the promotion to offer something in return by way of entertainment for that support. As Kings Lynn fans we have been brought up on winning sod all ( at the top level, a couple of cups apart) but have always had a quality racing circuit ( until the last few years). That was our place in the swing of things and one that we have accepted over the years. Entertainment first, prizes second. Now we don't appear to have either. So where is the encouragement to go and hand over £17 plus of our hard earned money ? Note... Sorry. this is not meaning to sound like I'm replying on SL's behalf, as she is far more capable than me.. You make valid points and I hope the promoters at Lynn do something positive as new fans will only return if their 1st visit was entertaining, we the core fans can do our bit by venting our frustration on social media, but staying away....................? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 I guess you'll be happy if Lynn go the same way as Coventry. By all means vent your frustration at your promotion, but fans staying away could lead to closure. I've said many times I don't want to see the end of any club, but from where I am Lynn speedway is quite a way down the path of self destruct. I certainly won't feel responsible if it does close, sad yes but responsible never. I'm more than willing to regain my enthusiasm and with it returning to the terraces but you only have to read the views of the majority of Lynn fans (most of whom have been going for decades) to see I'm not alone in being dissatisfied. The majority of complaints can easily be put right at minimal cost to the promotion but they either can't be bothered or don't see the problem. Lynn fans are used to not winning, that's never been an issue here in Norfolk but we we don't like being taken for fools. I fail to see why I or anyone else should use my money to shore up something that does not even come close to value for money. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Ive about had enough of it £17 value for money ? I think not can't start on time lengthy tractor breaks then an interval follow the leader in most heats . And do they care ? I think not . At KL the necessary, simple cost free changes which fans have requested over the last two or three years have not been put in place - e.g. a long drawn out match in midweek ( unnecessarily so ) following the 10 mins late starting - even without a sun delay last night. The cash cow no longer milks well at all, as you can see from the plentiful and ever growing gaps on the terracing. Why do we never hear from Rob Lyon about anything significant? Since he became the Promoter he has been invisible to all intents and purposes. I cannot stay for the after match inquest- what was said last night? Oh Please Let it Be So! Cannot somebody on here with influence ensure that the powers that be at the AFA ( race director? ) seriously considers this, as I bet that a majority of fans like the idea. Something needs to be done because if you take a prospective fan that is one of the first things they ask. I hope you are right that the KL promotion DO read these comments. And NO 26 min. track grades ever please ( if that timing was correct ) My "prayers" went unanswered re last bight! I guess you'll be happy if Lynn go the same way as Coventry. By all means vent your frustration at your promotion, but fans staying away could lead to closure. It's a failing business - as is UK speedway - it could take some simple steps to improve itself and please it's customers but feedback falls on deaf ears. It WILL close for speedway racing unless the promotion make some effort. so that the paying customer understands better their efforts. Sad but very likely to come true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Breaks in the races are necessary really, to prepare the track, but what needs to happen is the fans needs to be kept entertained in these periods. During the past year or so I have been lucky enough to go to a number of different sports, ice hockey, basketball, T20 cricket, rugby league, all of these sports have breaks in play, but in these breaks the fans are kept entertained by various things. It doesn't take a lot of effort or money. Interviews, quizzes, sponsored giveaways (tickets, T shirts), to even daft little things (this was at the rugby league) like two fans fighting with pillows in a ring, to fans racing on space hoppers. Ten minutes should be easy to fill, have the weekly raffles during one of them. I don't see the need for an interval after heat 10 if there is a track grading break after heats 4, 8 and 12 say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Looks like sedg went out with a bang. Utter professional. Well done him. A match winner after being sacked. Meeting was better than when I was last there but still notnl kings Lynn standards. Why they started nearly 8pm is beyond me. Then long breaks. Luckily the win made it worth it. Good to meet Gordon Bennett Sedgman's been sacked? We'll take him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Breaks in the races are necessary really, to prepare the track, but what needs to happen is the fans needs to be kept entertained in these periods. During the past year or so I have been lucky enough to go to a number of different sports, ice hockey, basketball, T20 cricket, rugby league, all of these sports have breaks in play, but in these breaks the fans are kept entertained by various things. It doesn't take a lot of effort or money. Interviews, quizzes, sponsored giveaways (tickets, T shirts), to even daft little things (this was at the rugby league) like two fans fighting with pillows in a ring, to fans racing on space hoppers. Ten minutes should be easy to fill, have the weekly raffles during one of them. I don't see the need for an interval after heat 10 if there is a track grading break after heats 4, 8 and 12 say.or even start at 7-30 and just get on with it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 What I don't understand is why Chapman as a businessman appears to be purposely running his business into the ground by not providing for the paying customer, it really does not make one iota of sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 or even start at 7-30 and just get on with it Having been a speedway follower since 1958, my wife has always been understanding about my nights at the track when she's not with me. But a couple of times this year, she's dropped gentle hints, with tongue in cheek, suggesting I might be seeing another woman as I'm so late getting home, in comparison to when we visit places like Peterborough for example, together. Last night was very uncomfortable for me when I got home, as she did accept my excuse for being so late, but let me know in no certain terms that she couldn't understand why it doesn't happen when we are at venues together, barring accidents of course. As far as I know, it's the referees job to keep meetings moving along, so I can't understand why that isn't happening. I'm now working on my next excuse!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Another woman Mimmo ? Did you not explain to her that one is more than enough !! It almost like they become part of the family ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) its a 2 way street Hyderd. For sure the fans should support the club, which they do ( otherwise there would be no club) in turn it is up to the promotion to offer something in return by way of entertainment for that support. As Kings Lynn fans we have been brought up on winning sod all ( at the top level, a couple of cups apart) but have always had a quality racing circuit ( until the last few years). That was our place in the swing of things and one that we have accepted over the years. Entertainment first, prizes second. Now we don't appear to have either. So where is the encouragement to go and hand over £17 plus of our hard earned money ? Note... Sorry. this is not meaning to sound like I'm replying on SL's behalf, as she is far more capable than me.. Dead right Problem is it seems to me that some speedway promoters believe they can serve up any old rubbish and people should pay for it. It simply must be the case that the product is attractive enough (or at least every effort is made to ensure it is) to pull people in and, if its not, I don't blame anyone walking away if they do not feel they are getting their money's worth. Relying on loyalty to the team is just not enough. Late start, rubbish racing and intervals would be three reasons for me to think again about going because there is no need for any of them. Edited June 22, 2017 by Halifaxtiger 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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