ruffdiamond Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 I don't think that is relevant. From what was said on the Centre green this evening SW is likely to ride tomorrow in the British Final and as such appears to be putting that ahead of his commitments to his clubs. He isn't the first to do that and he won't be the last, but if we were to fail to make the playoffs by one or two points... yeah,,, wasn't very tactful, (what was said),,,, even before he goes to the doctors, (on Tuesday). its only a scaphoid, doesn't have much use, a bit like a woodruff key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrace Grumbler Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 Could have used IRR Yes indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 Could have used IRRMight be wrong but don't think you can on a previous injury 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andys Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 Might be wrong but don't think you can on a previous injury You beat me to it, I thought you could only use it if you have been injured by another rider not from just pulling out of the meeting, altho I do stand to be corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 Might be wrong but don't think you can on a previous injuryhoway mate you know how speedway works... his neck would av been hurting after hitting a rut or had toothache or something.😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 Might be wrong but don't think you can on a previous injury Well it wouldn't be would it I'm sure it would be a new problem possibly in the same area 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 Might be wrong but don't think you can on a previous injury You beat me to it, I thought you could only use it if you have been injured by another rider not from just pulling out of the meeting, altho I do stand to be corrected. no, its just happened !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrace Grumbler Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 If you had of listened properly Roy said "Steve was going to TRY and ride tomorrow".. What if he had of tried and failed tonight we would of been without R/R ..At least if he fails tomorrow he is only letting himself down not the whole team I listened to every word, and heard what was said as being that Steve will ride in the British final tomorrow. Let's see if he does or not. I hope that I am being too cynical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) and its worse I heard some fans thinking we're going to get relegated.. we might, but at least we have our reserves sorted if we do. Edited June 18, 2017 by ruffdiamond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 I'm not gutted about whichever team won or lost to be honest, I'm more gutted that we lost the home undefeated record. It could have been prevented. Lindgren, Rose, and Hopwood need to shape up or ship out. There's no way we can make the playoffs, and its worse I heard some fans thinking we're going to get relegated. The closest tracks to me are all championship clubs, so getting relegated means I'd only be able to go to home meetings. Really hope the promotion salvage this season, or it'll be a total waste. Get relagated? Are you for real?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondGlory Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) Get relagated? Are you for real?! Apparently so, some diamonds fans think we're worse than Berwick and Scunthorpe. Edited June 19, 2017 by DiamondGlory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 The whole team needs ripped apart and if that means upsetting people then so be it, the balance and personnel of the team are not working. What is there to lose?? But will our promotion have the balls to do it and at least try?. Â So you have narrowly lost to probably the strongest side in the CL and having to use r/r for your second heat leader which realistically, you cannot expect the lower order riders to match his usual points return at home. Â Get a grip, it's your first home defeat, and tbh, no surprise, given the circumstances. Â If your "whole team needs ripped apart", where are the replacement riders going to come from? Â Be interested to know what alternative 1 - 7 you would suggest that are available and would comply with the 40 pt limit. Â And don't use the excuse "it's not my job, it's the Manager's", as you're the one demanding radical surgery on here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Apparently so, some diamonds fans think we're worse than Berwick and Scunthorpe.  I don't believe there is a facility for relegation to the NL - just from PL to CL so relax  in any case I believe there will be more changes this winter which may see a larger CL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrace Grumbler Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Â So you have narrowly lost to probably the strongest side in the CL and having to use r/r for your second heat leader which realistically, you cannot expect the lower order riders to match his usual points return at home. Â Get a grip, it's your first home defeat, and tbh, no surprise, given the circumstances. Â If your "whole team needs ripped apart", where are the replacement riders going to come from? Â Be interested to know what alternative 1 - 7 you would suggest that are available and would comply with the 40 pt limit. Â And don't use the excuse "it's not my job, it's the Manager's", as you're the one demanding radical surgery on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Â So you have narrowly lost to probably the strongest side in the CL and having to use r/r for your second heat leader which realistically, you cannot expect the lower order riders to match his usual points return at home. Â Get a grip, it's your first home defeat, and tbh, no surprise, given the circumstances. Â If your "whole team needs ripped apart", where are the replacement riders going to come from? Â Be interested to know what alternative 1 - 7 you would suggest that are available and would comply with the 40 pt limit. Â And don't use the excuse "it's not my job, it's the Manager's", as you're the one demanding radical surgery on here. id agree with you if last nights match was the real concern but its not, We effectivley have a side that contains 4 reserves from at some point last season, with 2 of them 2 point novices and a captain who has more off than on nights, meaning our top 2 having to carry the rest.What we have is plainly not working, so do we sit back and accept it or try and change it for the better?? Berwick, ippo, peterboro, redcar, worky, scunny, have all found available riders so far this season so there is some out there. Riders like Bach, vissing, Palovaara, robson, kennet, morley, allen, hansen, carr, knight, off the top of my head are not riding in the championship and may be available, maybe not.... im not privvy to that info. Unless we do something our season will be all but over soon imo as we are sitting ducks away from home. Â ' but thats not my job, its the promotions' 😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike7164 Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 So I take it with your George must go comments, you no longer want speedway on Tyneside, George has openly admitted if there was a better option as team manager he'd gladly step aside and concentrate on running the club, bottom line there isn't end of!!!! I'm pretty sure you weren't slagging him off when we were winning the league and cups not so many years ago, altho come to think about it you and certain others probably were, if you can do better go and have a chat with him, and as for terrace grumblers comments about Steve Worrall ffs get a life will you. I am personally sick of this getting churned out everytime anyone including myself questions the running of our club and yes I do acknowledge it may or may NOT happen, however I am getting sick of the current regime within our club season after season and we never get any better, this team is running in parallel with 2004 when we had Jason Lyons and not a lot else, only 2017 sees less changes in the team. Â All riders have the ability as it proved in heats 14 and 15 with the major under preforming riders on the night so Newspeed IMO ship up or pull out, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen, and we can find out weather anyone else out there is willing to put in or not, but in recent times a fair few clubs have came back from near the brink so who's to say we wouldn't either? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Newcastle need a revamp, the middle orders not doing it and the reserves are as outclassed as the previous two. Â Big changeround now or seasons abs dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 So the slide continues - at least at this rate averages will be dropping. Â Everyone is saying it would have been different if stevie had ridden, we would have won etc etc. Simple fact is he wasn't and we lost, which just highlights the frailities of the side. Any time we are missing a rider and use r/r we have serious problems, at home we can just about get away with it, depending on how many of opposition can ride our track, but away - oh dear! Â Greenwood is competent and obviously has more confidence than Coles showed, but he isn't the answer and frankly was lucky he scored the points he did. Â Only possible hope is the issuing of the Premier averages imminently - it is still all a mystery as to what they will get converted to for Championship, but it may be possible to replace Lindgren., Morris & Hopwood with Tungate, Graversen and Carr. Don't get too excited I say possible it's a guess on what averages will be! Whilst everyone will probably complain at Graversen, he might be best fit to get a strong heatleader to back up our over worked 1&2 and allow a reserve who woul be competitive!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Bear Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Given their home track advantage I was surprised that Newcastle did not sneak home last night. The RR for SW was giving plenty of strength. I do not watch them every week so I do not know where the actual weaknesses are. The most apparent one is the Reserves, Chopping & Changing for riders of the same ability will never be a recipe for success. Â Last Thursday I thought that Lindgren,Rose & Morris were as inconsistent as each other but at home they should be ok given as I have said the home track advantage. Â When Redcar go there I expect that we will lose , I hope we fight harder than Newcastle have on their 2 visits to Redcar. Â Newcastle in my opinion should be in the top league, the most enjoyable times I had watching speedway were when Newcastle were top division & we were in the Second, we got to see all the riders. Â Then of course we were not in the DU / DD era which is ruining the sport 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Isn't Lewis and Rose the same person Nowt gets past you Keith. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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