CookieIpswich Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Any feedback on this? British Premier League 1. Belle Vue 2. Kings Lynn 3. Poole 4. Rye House 5. Swindon 6. Wolverhampton 7. Glasgow 8. Ipswich Example of Teams/Strength (team building method TBC) Belle Vue - Cook, S. Worrall, R. Worrall, K. Bjerre, Bewley, J.Sedgeman, Tungate. Kings Lynn - C. Holder, Lambert, Batchelor, Porsing, Barker, Rose, Huckenbeck. Poole - Andersen, B.Kurtz, J.Holder, Starke, Klindt, Ellis, Newman. Rye House - Kennett, Nicholls, Nilsson, Wells, Robson, Jorgensen, Berge Swindon - Doyle, Morris, Zengota, Bellego, Grajczonek, Palm-Toft, BWD. Wolverhampton - F. Lindgren, Thorsell, Masters, Howarth, L. Lindgren, Procter, L.Bjerre Glasgow - Lawson, Summers, Garrity, Harris, Wright, Kerr, Hougaard. Ipswich - King, Schlein, Covatti, Bridger, E. Riss, Bates, Allen British Association Cup Competition - Potential meetings for riders minimum 2 maximum 6 depending on progress. example of draw Quarter Finals.... Belle Vue vs Ipswich Kings Lynn vs Gasglow Swindon vs Rye House Poole vs Wolverhampton Home & Away Legs aggregate winner going through, 13 Heat format, points 3,2,1,0 British League Cup Competition - Potential meetings for riders minimum 6 maximum 10 example of draw GROUP A - Bellue Vue, Glasgow, Rye House, Wolverhampton. GROUP B - Ipswich, Kings Lynn, Swindon, Poole. Home & Away Legs, 16 Heat format with two nominated Heats 15 & 16, points 4,3,2,0 to encourage team-riding Top Two Teams progress Winner A vs Runner Up B etc. British Premier League - Potential meetings for riders 14 minimum (7 H & A), 18 maximum (play offs) Each team race Home & Away once, under current 15 Heat Format, Top 4 into Play-Offs, League Winner gets pick of draw etc. Overall for the Top League of British Speedway that would be a minimum of 22 meetings per season or a maximum of 34 meetings per season, opens the opportunity for clubs to do "The Treble" as per other sports such as Football, team strengths are instantly stronger than the current system, however the challenge is making 22-34 meetings pay for riders in this league to make it a "professional league". Ways to increase revenue to pay riders in the top league more money 1) Less meetings may encourage more people to go so overall over less meetings you may see a bigger increase in attendance 2) Title sponsor of the League alongside TV coverage on a Platform like BT Sport, I would give the coverage to BT Sport for FREE 3) Associate sponsors of the League to further add additional revenue, after securing one main sponsor you could have upto 5 other paid sponsors. 4) Official partners of the league in terms of product support getting free product or heavily reduced cost for riders 5) Potential to introduce the Gehard Engine in this league across the board from 2020 onwards or the equivelant from another manufacturer if they produce their own version. 6) Secure a media partner to boost the profile of the sport such as TalkSport or a national newspaper 7) Secure a Digital/Social Media partner to boost the profile of the sport such as Sport Bible. The rest would be down to the riders to attract enough sponsorship to cover their costs, more exposure the more sponsorship opportunities for competitors. This could also be boosted by having a dedicated agnecy working for the sport on the riders behalf. BPLTV - British Premier League TV Alongside any deal with BT Sport, BSPA need to launch their own online streaming channel where you register and pay £6.99 per month to have access or pay a one-off fee for selected meetings at £12 Alongside the LIVE offerings from the selected television partner, BPLTV can provide an additional stream of 4 meetings per month minimum, host a weekly chat show/review of the sport, plus clubs can work with their own marketing/media people to regularly upload content with interviews, behind the scenes news for subscribers to watch, the more content the more likely you are to get subscribers. Have all filmed meetings available on a Digital Download 7 days after the meeting for people to download and keep on their Hard Drives for £5 For Argument sake, lets say 6,000 fans of speedway subscribed, that would be over £500,000 revenue per season, during the off-season they can put content on like classic meetings or interviews, podcasts etc. to keep people involved, the cost of showing 4 meetings per month (lets say 30 meetings) can be achieved at 1/5th of the total revenue, over 30 meetings even if you got an extra 100 people who are not subscribed but want to watch at a full price of £12 because of various reasons, thats £36,000 and say you get 15% of subscribers downloading their teams full season onto hard-drive, so 900 fans downloading 34 meetings at £5 each that is an additional revenue of £153,000 British Championship Grand Prix Turn the British Championship into a mini Grand Prix series over 5 rounds, get it on the Stream channell, sponsored etc. have a good prize fund for the riders and give ethe British riders the opportunity to earn money from this Elite series.... i'd take it to Glasgow, Kings Lynn, Somerset, Wolverhampton and finish at Belle Vue. I would say you would get 500 people paying £12 to watch each round who do not subscribe to the stream, with 1000 people paying for the 5th and final round, that would generate £36,000 after costs you could put £20,000 into prize money, if each round attracted 1,500 spectators at £12 per head and 50% of this was allocated for prize money coz other costs are subsidised by sponsorship that would be a total prize fund of £65,000 (£20k from the stream) If you are Danny King as an example, would you be happy with a 5 round series and being able to be crowned British Champion and take home £15,000 for first place overall? It's time the BSPA got their S%^T together and started to think out of the box as the sport will not continue past where we are now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesR Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 A very well thought out post and some great recommendations Cookie, which would certainly bring UK speedway more into this century. In addition to your suggestions I think the rules could be changed to allow the signing of three additional riders in the heat leader, second string and reserve positions, squad members if you like. These riders can only ride for one team in BPL and can replace riders who are off form, injured or away on FIM duty. Heat leaders would most likely come from riders not riding in this country now and the second strings and reserves coming from the lower division/s in this country. BPL meetings to take presedence over any meetings in this country. Clubs would also have the choice to use RR for injured or away heat leaders and second strings. The BPLTV is certainly going in the right direction and could be a great success if administered properly. Whether any of this will be taken on board by the powers of the BSPA is anyone guess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 As CookieIpswich says - and there are many other good ideas in his post - This is something I have suggested to the KL promotion before Buster became Chairman and to the BSPA since - Although we cannot expect Sky or BT quality broadcast the level that Premier Sports takes from Swedish League speedway currently is more than acceptable. A two camera operation. Technology makes this very viable. CI is also correct in his comment "It's time the BSPA got their S%^T together and started to think out of the box as the sport will not continue past where we are now" SPOT On. The current year on year decline of the sport needs better, braver attempts to halt that decline. BPLTV - British Premier League TV Alongside any deal with BT Sport, BSPA need to launch their own online streaming channel where you register and pay £6.99 per month to have access or pay a one-off fee for selected meetings at £12 Alongside the LIVE offerings from the selected television partner, BPLTV can provide an additional stream of 4 meetings per month minimum, host a weekly chat show/review of the sport, plus clubs can work with their own marketing/media people to regularly upload content with interviews, behind the scenes news for subscribers to watch, the more content the more likely you are to get subscribers. Have all filmed meetings available on a Digital Download 7 days after the meeting for people to download and keep on their Hard Drives for £5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) As missing riders is the main issue to the credibility and integrity to the Leagues couldn't the GP qualifying, World U21 qualifiers and Finals all be done and dusted by the end of April? Many riders do 'pre-season' in Southern Europe now meaning weather is ok, so couldn't the FIM just use these tracks in March, and say the first two weeks of April include the more North European tracks to clear the decks for League racing around Europe? Six weeks and all GP qualifying set in stone for the following year meaning that years GP riders know their fate if they tried to qualify via the challenge. More time for qualifiers to gain Sponsorship and be prepared for the following year too.. U21 World Champ crowned with no impact to League racing and he can milk any Sponsorship opportunities for the rest of the year. We stop League racing for the SWC so why not dedicate time to do the same for other events that drip feed sporadically through the season? One week Team U21 World Cup could also be included in the six weeks prior to League racing commencing around Europe... Some good ideas on here, however you can have as many permutations on Leagues, Team Strengths, PPV TV coverage/streaming etc etc as you want. If riders do not turn up because they are 'elsewhere' and can get replaced by 'ringers' then there is simply no credibilty regardless of what good ideas may exist.. Edited June 18, 2017 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted June 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 I have thought that winner of the british championship should get their gp wildcard the follow season as it allows more prep time and more opportunity to get sponsorship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) I have thought that winner of the british championship should get their gp wildcard the follow season as it allows more prep time and more opportunity to get sponsorship Agreed. So long as its not Rory schlien. Any feedback on this? British Premier League 1. Belle Vue 2. Kings Lynn 3. Poole 4. Rye House 5. Swindon 6. Wolverhampton 7. Glasgow 8. Ipswich Example of Teams/Strength (team building method TBC) Belle Vue - Cook, S. Worrall, R. Worrall, K. Bjerre, Bewley, J.Sedgeman, Tungate. Kings Lynn - C. Holder, Lambert, Batchelor, Porsing, Barker, Rose, Huckenbeck. Poole - Andersen, B.Kurtz, J.Holder, Starke, Klindt, Ellis, Newman. Rye House - Kennett, Nicholls, Nilsson, Wells, Robson, Jorgensen, Berge Swindon - Doyle, Morris, Zengota, Bellego, Grajczonek, Palm-Toft, BWD. Wolverhampton - F. Lindgren, Thorsell, Masters, Howarth, L. Lindgren, Procter, L.Bjerre Glasgow - Lawson, Summers, Garrity, Harris, Wright, Kerr, Hougaard. Ipswich - King, Schlein, Covatti, Bridger, E. Riss, Bates, Allen British Association Cup Competition - Potential meetings for riders minimum 2 maximum 6 depending on progress. example of draw Quarter Finals.... Belle Vue vs Ipswich Kings Lynn vs Gasglow Swindon vs Rye House Poole vs Wolverhampton Home & Away Legs aggregate winner going through, 13 Heat format, points 3,2,1,0 British League Cup Competition - Potential meetings for riders minimum 6 maximum 10 example of draw GROUP A - Bellue Vue, Glasgow, Rye House, Wolverhampton. GROUP B - Ipswich, Kings Lynn, Swindon, Poole. Home & Away Legs, 16 Heat format with two nominated Heats 15 & 16, points 4,3,2,0 to encourage team-riding Top Two Teams progress Winner A vs Runner Up B etc. British Premier League - Potential meetings for riders 14 minimum (7 H & A), 18 maximum (play offs) Each team race Home & Away once, under current 15 Heat Format, Top 4 into Play-Offs, League Winner gets pick of draw etc. Overall for the Top League of British Speedway that would be a minimum of 22 meetings per season or a maximum of 34 meetings per season, opens the opportunity for clubs to do "The Treble" as per other sports such as Football, team strengths are instantly stronger than the current system, however the challenge is making 22-34 meetings pay for riders in this league to make it a "professional league". Ways to increase revenue to pay riders in the top league more money 1) Less meetings may encourage more people to go so overall over less meetings you may see a bigger increase in attendance 2) Title sponsor of the League alongside TV coverage on a Platform like BT Sport, I would give the coverage to BT Sport for FREE 3) Associate sponsors of the League to further add additional revenue, after securing one main sponsor you could have upto 5 other paid sponsors. 4) Official partners of the league in terms of product support getting free product or heavily reduced cost for riders 5) Potential to introduce the Gehard Engine in this league across the board from 2020 onwards or the equivelant from another manufacturer if they produce their own version. 6) Secure a media partner to boost the profile of the sport such as TalkSport or a national newspaper 7) Secure a Digital/Social Media partner to boost the profile of the sport such as Sport Bible. The rest would be down to the riders to attract enough sponsorship to cover their costs, more exposure the more sponsorship opportunities for competitors. This could also be boosted by having a dedicated agnecy working for the sport on the riders behalf. BPLTV - British Premier League TV Alongside any deal with BT Sport, BSPA need to launch their own online streaming channel where you register and pay £6.99 per month to have access or pay a one-off fee for selected meetings at £12 Alongside the LIVE offerings from the selected television partner, BPLTV can provide an additional stream of 4 meetings per month minimum, host a weekly chat show/review of the sport, plus clubs can work with their own marketing/media people to regularly upload content with interviews, behind the scenes news for subscribers to watch, the more content the more likely you are to get subscribers. Have all filmed meetings available on a Digital Download 7 days after the meeting for people to download and keep on their Hard Drives for £5 For Argument sake, lets say 6,000 fans of speedway subscribed, that would be over £500,000 revenue per season, during the off-season they can put content on like classic meetings or interviews, podcasts etc. to keep people involved, the cost of showing 4 meetings per month (lets say 30 meetings) can be achieved at 1/5th of the total revenue, over 30 meetings even if you got an extra 100 people who are not subscribed but want to watch at a full price of £12 because of various reasons, thats £36,000 and say you get 15% of subscribers downloading their teams full season onto hard-drive, so 900 fans downloading 34 meetings at £5 each that is an additional revenue of £153,000 British Championship Grand Prix Turn the British Championship into a mini Grand Prix series over 5 rounds, get it on the Stream channell, sponsored etc. have a good prize fund for the riders and give ethe British riders the opportunity to earn money from this Elite series.... i'd take it to Glasgow, Kings Lynn, Somerset, Wolverhampton and finish at Belle Vue. I would say you would get 500 people paying £12 to watch each round who do not subscribe to the stream, with 1000 people paying for the 5th and final round, that would generate £36,000 after costs you could put £20,000 into prize money, if each round attracted 1,500 spectators at £12 per head and 50% of this was allocated for prize money coz other costs are subsidised by sponsorship that would be a total prize fund of £65,000 (£20k from the stream) If you are Danny King as an example, would you be happy with a 5 round series and being able to be crowned British Champion and take home £15,000 for first place overall? It's time the BSPA got their S%^T together and started to think out of the box as the sport will not continue past where we are now.... You ain't half going to upset the championship boys. Edited June 18, 2017 by Starman2006 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted June 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 Yeah true but its the only realistic way I can see the sport surviving, the rest of the clubs should split into national league division one and two and have promotion/relegation BUT there are not enough riders to fill all those places It just can't continue in this state its been known for years with nothing done to change it Its sad to see I've been involved in this sport from birth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 Yeah true but its the only realistic way I can see the sport surviving, the rest of the clubs should split into national league division one and two and have promotion/relegation BUT there are not enough riders to fill all those places It just can't continue in this state its been known for years with nothing done to change it Its sad to see I've been involved in this sport from birth Is it really "impossible to make it pay" riding in one league now? Or are riders being greedy? Almost everybody in both leagues is looking for another team in the other league! And unless both leagues are only riding on one fixed night in 2018 - a different one of course - next season will see more fans walking away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 And unless both leagues are only riding on one fixed night in 2018 - a different one of course - next season will see more fans walking away. I disagree........unless the BSPA stop riders riding for more than one team in the UK, the sport will die (domestically) within two years. The situation British Speedway currently finds itself in is farcical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted June 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 Look at Tungate for example yes he rides in Poland, but atm has no UK club tho is probably fixed up. Is he pleading poverty? Stuart Robson, Kennett etc only do one league? I think its the case it's been made too easy for riders to double up, put all the top riders into one pro league and give them the exposure to cover costs in sponsorship 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 I disagree........unless the BSPA stop riders riding for more than one team in the UK, the sport will die (domestically) within two years. The situation British Speedway currently finds itself in is farcical. Disagree, Nobody should have a problem with riders riding for 2 uk clubs, but this should definitely be restricted to riders with no European league commitments. Also, the top league should be tied to Monday, Wednesday or Thursday race night's. Rider's tied to clubs in both leagues have to commit to the top leagues fixture schedule including rearrangements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted June 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 Riders riding for more than one UK club is part of the problem in Britain speedway, riders miss meetings through injury riding for someone else To get any integrity back to the sport it should be one rider, one club, but speedway at present does not have enough riders, or is it a case of too many clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) I disagree........unless the BSPA stop riders riding for more than one team in the UK, the sport will die (domestically) within two years. The situation British Speedway currently finds itself in is farcical. We all know that, but you try telling them that. You try telling the powers that be that. suddenly they cop a deaffen.. Edited June 18, 2017 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew2 Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 Any feedback on this? British Premier League 1. Belle Vue 2. Kings Lynn 3. Poole 4. Rye House 5. Swindon 6. Wolverhampton 7. Glasgow 8. Ipswich Example of Teams/Strength (team building method TBC) Belle Vue - Cook, S. Worrall, R. Worrall, K. Bjerre, Bewley, J.Sedgeman, Tungate. Kings Lynn - C. Holder, Lambert, Batchelor, Porsing, Barker, Rose, Huckenbeck. Poole - Andersen, B.Kurtz, J.Holder, Starke, Klindt, Ellis, Newman. Rye House - Kennett, Nicholls, Nilsson, Wells, Robson, Jorgensen, Berge Swindon - Doyle, Morris, Zengota, Bellego, Grajczonek, Palm-Toft, BWD. Wolverhampton - F. Lindgren, Thorsell, Masters, Howarth, L. Lindgren, Procter, L.Bjerre Glasgow - Lawson, Summers, Garrity, Harris, Wright, Kerr, Hougaard. Ipswich - King, Schlein, Covatti, Bridger, E. Riss, Bates, Allen British Association Cup Competition - Potential meetings for riders minimum 2 maximum 6 depending on progress. example of draw Quarter Finals.... Belle Vue vs Ipswich Kings Lynn vs Gasglow Swindon vs Rye House Poole vs Wolverhampton Home & Away Legs aggregate winner going through, 13 Heat format, points 3,2,1,0 British League Cup Competition - Potential meetings for riders minimum 6 maximum 10 example of draw GROUP A - Bellue Vue, Glasgow, Rye House, Wolverhampton. GROUP B - Ipswich, Kings Lynn, Swindon, Poole. Home & Away Legs, 16 Heat format with two nominated Heats 15 & 16, points 4,3,2,0 to encourage team-riding Top Two Teams progress Winner A vs Runner Up B etc. British Premier League - Potential meetings for riders 14 minimum (7 H & A), 18 maximum (play offs) Each team race Home & Away once, under current 15 Heat Format, Top 4 into Play-Offs, League Winner gets pick of draw etc. Overall for the Top League of British Speedway that would be a minimum of 22 meetings per season or a maximum of 34 meetings per season, opens the opportunity for clubs to do "The Treble" as per other sports such as Football, team strengths are instantly stronger than the current system, however the challenge is making 22-34 meetings pay for riders in this league to make it a "professional league". Ways to increase revenue to pay riders in the top league more money 1) Less meetings may encourage more people to go so overall over less meetings you may see a bigger increase in attendance 2) Title sponsor of the League alongside TV coverage on a Platform like BT Sport, I would give the coverage to BT Sport for FREE 3) Associate sponsors of the League to further add additional revenue, after securing one main sponsor you could have upto 5 other paid sponsors. 4) Official partners of the league in terms of product support getting free product or heavily reduced cost for riders 5) Potential to introduce the Gehard Engine in this league across the board from 2020 onwards or the equivelant from another manufacturer if they produce their own version. 6) Secure a media partner to boost the profile of the sport such as TalkSport or a national newspaper 7) Secure a Digital/Social Media partner to boost the profile of the sport such as Sport Bible. The rest would be down to the riders to attract enough sponsorship to cover their costs, more exposure the more sponsorship opportunities for competitors. This could also be boosted by having a dedicated agnecy working for the sport on the riders behalf. BPLTV - British Premier League TV Alongside any deal with BT Sport, BSPA need to launch their own online streaming channel where you register and pay £6.99 per month to have access or pay a one-off fee for selected meetings at £12 Alongside the LIVE offerings from the selected television partner, BPLTV can provide an additional stream of 4 meetings per month minimum, host a weekly chat show/review of the sport, plus clubs can work with their own marketing/media people to regularly upload content with interviews, behind the scenes news for subscribers to watch, the more content the more likely you are to get subscribers. Have all filmed meetings available on a Digital Download 7 days after the meeting for people to download and keep on their Hard Drives for £5 For Argument sake, lets say 6,000 fans of speedway subscribed, that would be over £500,000 revenue per season, during the off-season they can put content on like classic meetings or interviews, podcasts etc. to keep people involved, the cost of showing 4 meetings per month (lets say 30 meetings) can be achieved at 1/5th of the total revenue, over 30 meetings even if you got an extra 100 people who are not subscribed but want to watch at a full price of £12 because of various reasons, thats £36,000 and say you get 15% of subscribers downloading their teams full season onto hard-drive, so 900 fans downloading 34 meetings at £5 each that is an additional revenue of £153,000 British Championship Grand Prix Turn the British Championship into a mini Grand Prix series over 5 rounds, get it on the Stream channell, sponsored etc. have a good prize fund for the riders and give ethe British riders the opportunity to earn money from this Elite series.... i'd take it to Glasgow, Kings Lynn, Somerset, Wolverhampton and finish at Belle Vue. I would say you would get 500 people paying £12 to watch each round who do not subscribe to the stream, with 1000 people paying for the 5th and final round, that would generate £36,000 after costs you could put £20,000 into prize money, if each round attracted 1,500 spectators at £12 per head and 50% of this was allocated for prize money coz other costs are subsidised by sponsorship that would be a total prize fund of £65,000 (£20k from the stream) If you are Danny King as an example, would you be happy with a 5 round series and being able to be crowned British Champion and take home £15,000 for first place overall? It's time the BSPA got their S%^T together and started to think out of the box as the sport will not continue past where we are now.... Apologies if i missed the point but are you saying Somerset host a British Final GP round but are not in the 'League'?? May as well get the cows back in the field if that is it! The main stated reason Somerset went up this winter was due to the geographical location of opposition but if Poole and Swindon are included then a stable and well respected setup that Somerset is would get left on a limb. I know the results haven't gone their way this year at home but the meetings i have been to (didn't go to the Poole or Swindon fixtures either when apparently it was packed) the crowds in 2017 seem to have been up on the Premier League days. I get the gist of what you are saying but personally think one big league would be better with weaker Championship teams joining a enhanced NL getting somewhere back to the old BL and NL or the 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted June 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 There are not enough high ish standard of riders for one big league, I struggled putting together 8 teams. Some clubs have give, couldn't put Somerset in the Top 8 and take out other clubs, national league would be cheaper than the old premier league Somerset is a good track so yes why not give it a round of the british championship its either Somerset or Poole.... Well to be honest I'd say swindon once the new place is ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Disagree, Nobody should have a problem with riders riding for 2 uk clubs, Rubbish........that is EXACTLY what will/is killing domestic speedway. Do you honestly think that ANYONE can take a sport seriously when that is allowed to happen? We all know that, but you try telling them that. You try telling the powers that be that. suddenly they cop a deaffen.. That's their choice........if they continue to 'cop a deaffen' they will go out of business within two years (in my opinion). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 There are not enough high ish standard of riders for one big league, I struggled putting together 8 teams. Some clubs have give, couldn't put Somerset in the Top 8 and take out other clubs, national league would be cheaper than the old premier league Somerset is a good track so yes why not give it a round of the british championship its either Somerset or Poole.... Well to be honest I'd say swindon once the new place is ready Swindon a possibility yes, but will we see it in 2018 OR 2019 AND how long will it survive in the middle of a new housing estate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Best thing about that proposition is that the stated Swindon team would probably win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted June 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Hahaha there would have to be some team building formula in place I just listed it that way to try and find 8 decent looking teams It's actually quite frightening looking at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 There are not enough high ish standard of riders for one big league, I struggled putting together 8 teams. Some clubs have give, couldn't put Somerset in the Top 8 and take out other clubs, national league would be cheaper than the old premier league Somerset is a good track so yes why not give it a round of the british championship its either Somerset or Poole.... Well to be honest I'd say swindon once the new place is ready Does it have to be "high" standard? Better that it's equal quality so providing closer, more challenging racing The attraction should be more aimed at entertainment than at win-at-all-costs, by chopping and changing team members Stability amongst team line-ups should be an aim where a competitive side has been achieved And return to 13 heat matches plus second-halves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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