northyorksbear Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Please don't let it be a 20+ point hammering. Please don't let it be a 20+ point hammering. It was bad enough the first time. Well you got your wish - it was an 18 point hammering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 heard it was more like the Yangtze, but without the fight You cant win all the time, but we wernt even competitive.. best we could hope for is a drawn heat when lambert and worrall are out and maybe a heat advantage in heats 13 & 15.Poor stuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondGlory Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Well you got your wish - it was an 18 point hammering I was 2 points out. Just don't know what to think of away meetings anymore, when only 2 of 7 diamonds show up. Still have no clue why Lindgren was in heat 15. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 I was 2 points out. Just don't know what to think of away meetings anymore, when only 2 of 7 diamonds show up. Still have no clue why Lindgren was in heat 15. I guess Worrall didn't fancy it after his acrobatics in heat 13 - and Lindgren was your next best rider!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 I guess Worrall didn't fancy it after his acrobatics in heat 13 - and Lindgren was your next best rider!! Looked like Lindgren was on Morris's bike in 14 and 15 as well, and Hopwood was faster after the flag going back to the pits than he was in the actual races 😂😂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 I guess Worrall didn't fancy it after his acrobatics in heat 13 - and Lindgren was your next best rider!! by far... Looked like Lindgren was on Morris's bike in 14 and 15 was he showing him how to ride it ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 by far... was he showing him how to ride it ??? Not really he was gash... as were 4 others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Looks like a lovely evening ahead (weather wise) That should mean track isn't too wet for Robert, but hopefully not too dry for the rest of the team Fancy Robert and Stevie to get a pile of points and the rest to get enough to secure a win against the Bears select team Well Robert and Steve got a pile of points, reserves got exactly what they deserved, and the rest pathetic! Can't wait to hear moaning George's excuses - lets see Rose wasn't at fault when he fell unlucky with engine problems for the skipper Ostergaard should never have been allowed to replace Redcar's ex no. 7 track was patchy (ie too wet and too dry) rain spoiled the comeback When it should be I messed up not using tactical ride at first opportunity I messed up using two NL reserves to make top 5 stronger I messed up having 3 riders in top 5 who aren't good enough away from home Lets see what we get!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Well Robert and Steve got a pile of points, reserves got exactly what they deserved, and the rest pathetic! Can't wait to hear moaning George's excuses - lets see Rose wasn't at fault when he fell unlucky with engine problems for the skipper Ostergaard should never have been allowed to replace Redcar's ex no. 7 track was patchy (ie too wet and too dry) rain spoiled the comeback When it should be I messed up not using tactical ride at first opportunity I messed up using two NL reserves to make top 5 stronger I messed up having 3 riders in top 5 who aren't good enough away from home Lets see what we get!!! Taken from the Newcastle website: Team manager George English had to again look back at defeat, saying: "Again ultimately disappointing tonight. Why our form, especially away from Brough Park, is so patchy is something we cannot put our finger on, but the lads know if we don't start taking good points they those vital play-offs will get out of reach and with the side we have this year we deserve to qualify, but it's in their hands. They need to start winning away from home." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Taken from the Newcastle website: Team manager George English had to again look back at defeat, saying: "Again ultimately disappointing tonight. Why our form, especially away from Brough Park, is so patchy is something we cannot put our finger on, but the lads know if we don't start taking good points they those vital play-offs will get out of reach and with the side we have this year we deserve to qualify, but it's in their hands. They need to start winning away from home." patchy 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Taken from the Newcastle website: Team manager George English had to again look back at defeat, saying: "Again ultimately disappointing tonight. Why our form, especially away from Brough Park, is so patchy is something we cannot put our finger on, but the lads know if we don't start taking good points they those vital play-offs will get out of reach and with the side we have this year we deserve to qualify, but it's in their hands. They need to start winning away from home." He is having a serious laugh and playing us all for mugs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Maybe his credibilty should be questioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 How does he make out our away form is patchy ?? the only points we have taken away from home was when we used a ringer in the reserve berth - surely that fact in itself highlights why we are so crap away from Brough park Lambert and Worrall will soon need sick notes for bad backs carrying the rest of this team !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 How does he make out our away form is patchy ?? the only points we have taken away from home was when we used a ringer in the reserve berth - surely that fact in itself highlights why we are so crap away from Brough park Lambert and Worrall will soon need sick notes for bad backs carrying the rest of this team !! they maybe should've only went with 1 big hitter,,, esp. after the points limit was lowered. but its 'jumpers for goalposts' really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Maybe his credibilty should be questioned. Well I think his logic should be, if he thinks diamonds deserve to finish higher than Glasgow, Edinburgh, Sheffield and Ipswich (and probably Peterborough when then get team together) I had them down to be alongside Redcar and Worky, but having seen them twice I doubt that - if you are going to be at best a 5 man team and more likely a 2 man team away from home ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike7164 Posted June 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Well Robert and Steve got a pile of points, reserves got exactly what they deserved, and the rest pathetic! Can't wait to hear moaning George's excuses - lets see Rose wasn't at fault when he fell unlucky with engine problems for the skipper Ostergaard should never have been allowed to replace Redcar's ex no. 7 track was patchy (ie too wet and too dry) rain spoiled the comeback When it should be I messed up not using tactical ride at first opportunity I messed up using two NL reserves to make top 5 stronger I messed up having 3 riders in top 5 who aren't good enough away from home Lets see what we get!!! I have said for years now I don't and never have rated George as a manager & IMO should of been disposed of these duties years ago & I believe in many other clubs or sports would have been, we need a proper manager who one is a ex rider so there for knows if and when riders are under preforming, and two who put the fear of god in to riders so they know they are riding for their job or out! On the Connor vs Dan situation I fail to understand why we go back for a rider who is likely to under preform, he did no better than Connor was doing the last time we dropped Dan? I understand Connor must of been well down in confidence who wouldn't not scoring any points meeting after meeting, but IF as I suspect Dan does the same then so will his so we are no further forward. I would of either tried to increase our strength in the main body, or persevered with Connor and for example Steve Worrall should of worked with him to try and get to the bottom of whatever the problems were as he'd been there in that same position not to long ago and has turned it around since then spectacularly! Edited June 15, 2017 by mike7164 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Diamond Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) The team is nowhere near playoff level i cant name many teams it might finish ahead off. Nothing wrong getting it wrong start of the season other sides have, but they tried something do about it we need do the same.The problem with having poor reserves to have a strong top 5 is it actually has to be strong and reliable to begin with. Ludvig is only heatleader at home only average second string away and Ashley and Lewis were reserves last season big ask to step up to second string or heatleader level with nobody to back them up at reserve. Edited June 15, 2017 by Big Diamond 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) How does he make out our away form is patchy ?? the only points we have taken away from home was when we used a ringer in the reserve berth - surely that fact in itself highlights why we are so crap away from Brough park Lambert and Worrall will soon need sick notes for bad backs carrying the rest of this team !! It was obvious when Diamonds team was put together at the start of the season with Phillips a struggling 2 pointer and Coles with very limited experience at this level filling the reserve spaces that this alone would cause your team problems, the only other team to try similar idea was Ipswich . The difference is the 2 witches reserves who also were a gamble look to have a lot more potential . Your top 5 are fine but they can't carry the reserves every meeting . When any rider is injured and using R/R how many points are you going to get from your 2 reserves to compensate . I think you need to make 2 changes 1 reserve and 1 of your top 5 to get the balance right , then you could maybe bring in somebody at reserve with a bit more experience like Liam Carr and a new middle order rider. Your win at Peterborough wouldn't have happened without Shanes and there's the difference you had 1 decent reserve. Just for instance if you released Lindgren and Greenwood ,the you would be able to bring in Adam Ellis and Liam Carr which would bring team total to around 39.50 and you would have a better balanced team. Edited June 16, 2017 by New era Panthers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer09 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 It was obvious when Diamonds team was put together at the start of the season with Phillips a struggling 2 pointer and Coles with very limited experience at this level filling the reserve spaces that this alone would cause your team problems, the only other team to try similar idea was Ipswich . The difference is the 2 witches reserves who also were a gamble look to have a lot more potential . Your top 5 are fine but they can't carry the reserves every meeting . When any rider is injured and using R/R how many points are you going to get from your 2 reserves to compensate . I think you need to make 2 changes 1 reserve and 1 of your top 5 to get the balance right , then you could maybe bring in somebody at reserve with a bit more experience like Liam Carr and a new middle order rider. Your win at Peterborough wouldn't have happened without Shanes and there's the difference you had 1 decent reserve. Just for instance if you released Lindgren and Greenwood ,the you would be able to bring in Adam Ellis and Liam Carr which would bring team total to around 39.50 and you would have a better balanced team.That's a good shout if we could Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 So now the morning after the night before. Apologies to Redcar, should have praised them last night for a good solid team performance and job well done - you can only beat what's put in front of you and having accepted lambert and Worrall would be tough to beat they set about making sure they didn't finish behind any of the others and as the scoreline shows did the job well! Taking the abject performance of 5 riders and a team manager away it wasn't a bad meeting - updates show a lot of races won "ftg" but in fairness 1st bends were usually close and the racing good. You are never going to get loads of passing when one side (L&W excepted) are so outclassed. Only other minor gripe was getting wet - what was idea to hold interval just as shower started? that's a Havelock trick to get people in the bar! Did wonder before rerun of heat 10 when rain started if there would be a ploy to get match called off and test the new precedent of awarding matches 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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