robert72 Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) Jason Crump has more English heritage than Tai has Australian (I remember reading an interview with Phil where he said one of his grandparents came from Devon and emigrated to Oz at the turn of the last century) but I bet the Aussies didn't give a monkeys. Not 100% sure but wasn't JC mum and uncles also born in the uk ? I would put JC as the most successful British born rider ever. Edited June 12, 2017 by robert72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Not 100% sure but wasn't JC mum and uncles also born in the uk ? I would put JC as the most successful British born rider ever. Jason's mother was Carol (?) daughter of Neil Street...not sure if she was born in Britain or Australia however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 The BSF gets a lot of unfair criticism . It's a normal cross section of life that you have to deal with anywhere . You get the ones " in the know " that get snotty when someone posts something not quite correct . You get the know alls , you get the ones who are always right and have to have the last word in any debate . You get the wind up merchants and the ones who like to stretch the boundaries . But there are some really good posters , some very intelligent posters , and some very funny ones too ( intentionally or not ) . If you develop a thick skin and don't take yourself or the forum too seriously , then it's enjoyable on here . I've enjoyed speedway a lot more since I joined this in 2006 and I've made some very good friends because of this forum . 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) The BSF gets a lot of unfair criticism . It's a normal cross section of life that you have to deal with anywhere . You get the ones " in the know " that get snotty when someone posts something not quite correct . You get the know alls , you get the ones who are always right and have to have the last word in any debate . You get the wind up merchants and the ones who like to stretch the boundaries . But there are some really good posters , some very intelligent posters , and some very funny ones too ( intentionally or not ) . If you develop a thick skin and don't take yourself or the forum too seriously , then it's enjoyable on here . I've enjoyed speedway a lot more since I joined this in 2006 and I've made some very good friends because of this forum . I'd agree...generally... although there are a few who take it a bit too far...snapping and barking! Personally I do have a thick skin and it's water off a duck's back to me! Edited June 12, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 I have learned that a good number of people have the same views as myself, and a good number don't. For me it all makes for a bit of fun - unless it gets too personal, which it does on occasion. Over all though, a bit of sensible argument and discussion makes for a bit of enjoyment and fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerblade Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Jason's mother was Carol (?) daughter of Neil Street...not sure if she was born in Britain or Australia however. Me neither... always assumed she was born in Oz because Neil and Phil were, but in reality I have no idea! Going back to the topic... another thing I have learned is that speedway fans moan endlessly as to why the sport isn't given identical coverage to sports with millions more fans, but also moan that TV exposure isn't any good for the sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Jason's mother was Carol (?) daughter of Neil Street...not sure if she was born in Britain or Australia however. I think Neil was living in Devon when his children were born, 1 daughter 2 sons I think, maybe wrong but I am sure this was mentioned elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Being born in Britain, to British parents, means nothing; just because you spent a few years in Australia because your parents moved there, means you are automatically Australian. Funny how Tai gets labelled as "Australian" but Robert Lambert never gets labelled as a German (let alone "a "Kraut", "Hun", "Bosch" "Nazi", "Boxhead" or any other derogatory term reserved for Germans) And yet, where did Lambert learn his craft? Which country did he represent at youth level? He's still adored at places like Gustrow and all over Germany. The Germans almost view him as one of their own. And yet, he's not been given the same stick as Tai has by the British fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Funny how Tai gets labelled as "Australian" but Robert Lambert never gets labelled as a German (let alone "a "Kraut", "Hun", "Bosch" "Nazi", "Boxhead" or any other derogatory term reserved for Germans) And yet, where did Lambert learn his craft? Which country did he represent at youth level? He's still adored at places like Gustrow and all over Germany. The Germans almost view him as one of their own. And yet, he's not been given the same stick as Tai has by the British fans. You know exactly why Tai gets stick.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 You know exactly why Tai gets stick.... I can recall him being called an Aussie from his first days at Scunthorpe and Rye House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Funny how Tai gets labelled as "Australian" but Robert Lambert never gets labelled as a German (let alone "a "Kraut", "Hun", "Bosch" "Nazi", "Boxhead" or any other derogatory term reserved for Germans) And yet, where did Lambert learn his craft? Which country did he represent at youth level? He's still adored at places like Gustrow and all over Germany. The Germans almost view him as one of their own. And yet, he's not been given the same stick as Tai has by the British fans. Robert Lambert is powerfully proud to represent GB and has never suggested that he would ride for Germany, even though he did learn his craft there because he could not, at the time do it here ( at his age ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 I agree with you about stevebrum hehe Says the supposed ex speedway rider. Be careful acting troll like won't you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Funny how Tai gets labelled as "Australian" but Robert Lambert never gets labelled as a German (let alone "a "Kraut", "Hun", "Bosch" "Nazi", "Boxhead" or any other derogatory term reserved for Germans) And yet, where did Lambert learn his craft? Which country did he represent at youth level? He's still adored at places like Gustrow and all over Germany. The Germans almost view him as one of their own. And yet, he's not been given the same stick as Tai has by the British fans. Why would he ride for the Hun? He is British - just like Tai. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Why would he ride for the Hun? He is British - just like Tai. Didn't he actually do just that in one of the u21 championships a few years ago, when he was still riding on a German license? I'm pretty sure I recall seeing a scorechart from somewhere with "Lambert - GER" on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Didn't he actually do just that in one of the u21 championships a few years ago, when he was still riding on a German license? I'm pretty sure I recall seeing a scorechart from somewhere with "Lambert - GER" on it. When Robert starts belting out " Das Deutschlandied " I'll get worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Why would he ride for the Hun? He is British - just like Tai. Tai is only British when it suits his own needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 When Robert starts belting out " Das Deutschlandied " I'll get worried. So wearing a Black Pepper, Ketchup and Mustard body colour isn't enough for you then? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 So wearing a Black Pepper, Ketchup and Mustard body colour isn't enough for you then? Great description of the German Flag! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 So wearing a Black Pepper, Ketchup and Mustard body colour isn't enough for you then? I like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 So wearing a Black Pepper, Ketchup and Mustard body colour isn't enough for you then? Hmmmmm he came over to get rides on a 500cc because he wasn't allowed to race in the UK.As he had a German licence he could also ride in the German national championships.He never said he was german and nobody else said he was german,but there was some small BSF controversy about it back then.... .It was the same with the Dryml brothers.Laguta was the local wildcard in one or two Latvian GPs,and went further by stating he was taking out Latvian citizenship,but seemed to fail the test or drop the idea.Simon Wigg also had a foreign licence and some like Marvyn Cox also rode in the German Championship.Think he even won it,but nobody thinks he is german Even Ryan Giggs played for England at some level and nobody thinks he is english Groan................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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