Max the rebel Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) Can't teams have a meeting each at the start of the season to pay for track covers as they did for air fences. The covers work very well at Berwick and would stop most meetings being OFF Edited June 10, 2017 by TEAM LOGAN AND ERIKA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Plenty of other tracks could afford covers - I dont think cost is the issue for all. The problem is the logistics of stadium use and man power as to when they could be used. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Plenty of other tracks could afford covers - I dont think cost is the issue for all. The problem is the logistics of stadium use and man power as to when they could be used. Agreed, it is just tarpaulin I think but stadium use will be the biggest factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 They only last about 4 to 5 meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontrader Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 They only last about 4 to 5 meetings. But surely that is five meetings already this season that Berwick have saved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) But surely that is five meetings already this season that Berwick have saved Must be , I know we had a moan earlier but you have to credit them for there forward thinking and the meetings they have saved. Edited June 10, 2017 by Gazc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseq7 Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 They only last about 4 to 5 meetings. Really? Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Should be compulsory in the top league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 They only last about 4 to 5 meetings. Dave, Dave.... That's just not true. The current covers at Berwick were first used for a match against Redcar in April 2016, and again before another meeting, maybe two more, last season. This year, the Berwick promotion have saved SEVEN meetings more or less directly through the use of the same covers. To add to other posts on the subject, track covers cost about 50% of the cost of raining off ONE meeting. Now, I agree that other tracks aren't suited to being covered, and stadium access -- and availability of man-power -- might be a problem elsewhere. But problems are there to be sorted. I cannot believe other promotions have so far not investigated why Berwick have been so successful in this matter. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) Really? Why? It what was said when Berwick saved that FIM championship event about 3 years ago. I had reason to remember it. Don't forget not only do you have to have the covers but a large gang of people who can turn up at the right time to both put them down and lift them, and the duration and intensity of the rain to be to your advantage. Edited June 10, 2017 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Attention Briggo. Following your double action flicker and the Briggo dirt deflector, surely you can come with the Briggo track cover? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 It what was said when Berwick saved that FIM championship event about 3 years ago. I had reason to remember it. Don't forget not only do you have to have the covers but a large gang of people who can turn up air the right time to both put them down and lift them and the duration and intensity of the rain to be to your advantage. Yes, three years ago -- when Berwick had completely different covers -- that was perhaps true. That was then, this is now. Different covering system, and each time it gets done it gets easier. Twelve people, about an hour and they are laid. Always plenty of helpers to lift them before the meeting starts, which then maybe takes 20 minutes or so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Yes, three years ago -- when Berwick had completely different covers -- that was perhaps true. That was then, this is now. Different covering system, and each time it gets done it gets easier. Twelve people, about an hour and they are laid. Always plenty of helpers to lift them before the meeting starts, which then maybe takes 20 minutes or so. It was, and a lot of them got damaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 For covers to work well, would adequate drainage be needed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondGlory Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 For covers to work well, would adequate drainage be needed ? Probably, which is why it wouldn't work as well for us, because our draining is awful. Plus, there'd need to be more volunteers, so that's another problem that would need to be tackled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 It was, and a lot of them got damaged.And that was basically the first time anyone had tried to use covers in the UK just about so we was going in blind not knowing how to do it properly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 If covers were used all over the leagues I'm sure a lot of meetings would be saved, however as has been said the manpower would be extensive, time consuming and would require some sort of reciprocal gestures from the promotions involved (like free admission for the helpers) and as we all know they don't like giving anything away! At Ipswich if a season ticket holder can't make a meeting they won't even let someone else use their ticket which I think is disgusting PR. However back to original thread I think they are a great idea that should be in much wider use! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max the rebel Posted June 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 I think they should be mandatory like air fences after they have done what they need to do after a meeting the track staff put on the covers till next meeting. Then track staff get to next meeting take them off to do what they need to do to the track. If the hevans open then nothing u can do. U would save 90% of meetings and save thousands of pounds in doing so and the supporters no that they are doing everything possible to get the meeting on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 If covers were used all over the leagues I'm sure a lot of meetings would be saved, however as has been said the manpower would be extensive, time consuming and would require some sort of reciprocal gestures from the promotions involved (like free admission for the helpers) and as we all know they don't like giving anything away! At Ipswich if a season ticket holder can't make a meeting they won't even let someone else use their ticket which I think is disgusting PR. However back to original thread I think they are a great idea that should be in much wider use! Berwick offered free admission to helpers on Friday night. It normally take around a team of 12 to lay covers. It's £15 admission for adults. Therefore effectively it should cost £180 (lost takings). Compare that with the cost of a rain off. Any promotion not considering this would be daft. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 I think they should be mandatory like air fences after they have done what they need to do after a meeting the track staff put on the covers till next meeting. Then track staff get to next meeting take them off to do what they need to do to the track. If the hevans open then nothing u can do. U would save 90% of meetings and save thousands of pounds in doing so and the supporters no that they are doing everything possible to get the meeting on. Unfortunately most tracks don't belong to speedway teams and are used for various other purposes that makes it impractical to be able facilitate this idea, so we have to put up with chances of rain offs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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