Ipswich V Edinburgh Ch 8-6-17@7-30pm

[topsoil]

No doubt Edinburgh have a top prospect in Josh Pickering. He was very impressive at Berwick as well. Took two rides to size the place up, the flew around in his last two rides. Then I saw him at Armadale against Peterborough but he didn't look nearly as comfortable. He will be a steal on his average next season I reckon.

[TheScotsman]

No doubt Edinburgh have a top prospect in Josh Pickering. He was very impressive at Berwick as well. Took two rides to size the place up, the flew around in his last two rides. Then I saw him at Armadale against Peterborough but he didn't look nearly as comfortable. He will be a steal on his average next season I reckon.

 

You can't go stealing Joshie!!

[2ndbendbeerhut]

Add me to the list of people impressed by Pickering.

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

And me

[TheScotsman]

So much love for Joshie!!

 

You need to go see him when he's next at the ShowoffGround!!

He is SO spectacular there!!

[CookieIpswich]

Pickering was great

 

Eric Riss tho! Future GP rider if he gets the right backing, great style.

[AntiqueSteve]

Was it just me or was I the only one on here that saw the Riss Brothers rolling on neally every start for the first half of the meeting.....Its not called "good starting" its called second guessing the Reff !

 

Once the Reff held the tapes a bit longer they stopped doing it...its as simple as that.

 

I was right on the start and every time Riss and Co. had almost turned a wheel before the others even moved...come on Reff please get a grip, it was so obvious to me and most of the crowd in our bit were pretty peed off with it !

 

Ironic.......... the only time all night we made a tapes error (Danny) we got penalised !

[Baldyman]

Sounds like the ref was Gay

[Bash]

I think Eric Riss is turning into the next James Sarjeant, the only heat he didn't jump was when he was off gate 4 as the ref would clearly see if he moved. (You would think anyway)

 

If you read the report on the Official Monarchs website it claims that the track was a difficult track, didn't see that myself. Also people reading it would think that Rory led from start to finish in the rerun of heat 13, not came from the back to win, absolute brilliant ride!!

 

I was a bit worried we were going to lose last night, but the boys turned it around and even stopped Edinburgh taking a point. Just need to start producing away from home.

[Gavan]

I think Eric Riss is turning into the next James Sarjeant, the only heat he didn't jump was when he was off gate 4 as the ref would clearly see if he moved. (You would think anyway)

 

If you read the report on the Official Monarchs website it claims that the track was a difficult track, didn't see that myself. Also people reading it would think that Rory led from start to finish in the rerun of heat 13, not came from the back to win, absolute brilliant ride!!

 

I was a bit worried we were going to lose last night, but the boys turned it around and even stopped Edinburgh taking a point. Just need to start producing away from home.

I cant believe that the guy who did the monarchs report Graham someone could have been at the meeting myself.

 

Never seen such a one sided biased report in my life.

 

Mentions the fall of Pickering costing 2 points..........but fails to mention that the fall of Sedgman cost the witches 2 points.

Mentions that the track was difficult and the Witches were winning from the gate.......true...but in the first 7 heats the only Witch to win a race was King

 

Heat number 4 and we lose our most potent reserve.

 

Then onto heat 13.............King unbeaten and quite frankly nobody had got near him.......touches the tapes and goes off 15 metres only to fall and be excluded. So the luck there is with the Monarchs that King is out of the race.

 

Then this reporter mentions it was unlucky as the Monarchs were on a 5-1 at the time................forgets to mention that Schlein decided to let them lead in the re run before passing them both.......remember on a track with no passing....Masters passed Sedgman and Schlein passed both Monarchs.

 

No mention that Mark Riss was incapable of getting past Connor Mountain when it mattered.

 

So yes Monarchs lost points when Pickering fell

 

But...

 

Ipswich did when Sedgman fell

Ipswich did when Greaves was ruled out

Ipswich did when King was excluded.

 

Are all Monarchs reports on their website this biased??

[tocha]

Very grippy again.

But mainly a gaters paradise.

We were gating well for the first 7 heats but then swapped gloves with ippo who promptly banged in 3 5-1s.

Game over.

 

Well done ippo.

 

Must do better monarchs.

 

If the away team nominates 1 and 3 in heat one this will often happen as up to heat six the away side will have 1 and 3 for four of them. However, from heat seven, the home side have four successive inside gates and three of these resulted in 5 -1 to the Witches.

[Super Blue]

Well after much thought I've decided that Edinburgh are actually better than I gave them credit for at the start of the season and I believed that they were going to take the win last night after 7 heats especially considering the subsequent withdrawal of Nathan Greaves from the meeting.

 

However with some grit and determination the Witches managed to turn it around for a good win in the end.

 

The whole meeting was much better than previous week against Newcastle and hopefully will continue to be better in the coming weeks.

 

Rory's heat 13 was just what the doctor ordered after Danny's exclusion and shows it is possible to make passes at Foxhall.

 

Connor stepped up nicely to score a few vital points and every one else chipped in after one or two had dodgy starts to the meeting.

 

On the Edinburgh side I echo others comments about Pickering and Eric Riss although I do believe that the latter got away with a couple of real flyers from the gate.

 

But it's all about opinions so onwards and upwards as they say.

[TheScotsman]

I cant believe that the guy who did the monarchs report Graham someone could have been at the meeting myself.

 

Never seen such a one sided biased report in my life.

 

Mentions the fall of Pickering costing 2 points..........but fails to mention that the fall of Sedgman cost the witches 2 points.

Mentions that the track was difficult and the Witches were winning from the gate.......true...but in the first 7 heats the only Witch to win a race was King

 

Heat number 4 and we lose our most potent reserve.

 

Then onto heat 13.............King unbeaten and quite frankly nobody had got near him.......touches the tapes and goes off 15 metres only to fall and be excluded. So the luck there is with the Monarchs that King is out of the race.

 

Then this reporter mentions it was unlucky as the Monarchs were on a 5-1 at the time................forgets to mention that Schlein decided to let them lead in the re run before passing them both.......remember on a track with no passing....Masters passed Sedgman and Schlein passed both Monarchs.

 

No mention that Mark Riss was incapable of getting past Connor Mountain when it mattered.

 

So yes Monarchs lost points when Pickering fell

 

But...

 

Ipswich did when Sedgman fell

Ipswich did when Greaves was ruled out

Ipswich did when King was excluded.

 

Are all Monarchs reports on their website this biased??

 

No obligation to read them. They are mainly aimed at home supporters.

 

No mention that Monarchs were on a 5-1 when King laid it down in heat 13 and handily couldn't get up.

Or that Ricky was comfortably winning the rerun of heat 13 with Sam protecting his back when Ricky hit the deep stuff on turn 2 and dropped back.

Sam didn't realise it was Rory who came up alongside until it was too late and from then on he was always on the wrong line trying to keep Rory behind.

Having said that Rory load very well to take the win.

 

And some say it was King who rolled in heat 1 when Mark got the warning.

Couldn't tell from my viewing point though.

 

And it's most unlikely that Greaves would have bettered Mountain's paid win in heat 8 if he had been in that race and no guarantee he would have got anything in his last scheduled ride in which Mountain finished at the back, so I doubt that losing Greaves cost you anything.

 

I could just as easily say that if Mark hadn't fallen on the first lap of heat 5 he would have picked up a point when Sedgy baled out.

 

 

And yes there was virtually no overtaking - twice in 15 races? Better than the 1 in 15 races last week I suppose.

Check the Updates for last night as written by Sue - most races were FTG.

 

It's such a shame that something about the track is not lending itself to better racing.

It was much better 2 or 3 seasons ago.

 

 

 

However Ippo deserved the win on the night - overall they rode better than we did.

Everyone did their bit for them whereas we had some races where I would have expected us to do better.

[Gavan]

 

No obligation to read them. They are mainly aimed at home supporters.

 

No mention that Monarchs were on a 5-1 when King laid it down in heat 13 and handily couldn't get up.

Or that Ricky was comfortably winning the rerun of heat 13 with Sam protecting his back when Ricky hit the deep stuff on turn 2 and dropped back.

Sam didn't realise it was Rory who came up alongside until it was too late and from then on he was always on the wrong line trying to keep Rory behind.

Having said that Rory load very well to take the win.

 

And some say it was King who rolled in heat 1 when Mark got the warning.

Couldn't tell from my viewing point though.

 

And it's most unlikely that Greaves would have bettered Mountain's paid win in heat 8 if he had been in that race and no guarantee he would have got anything in his last scheduled ride in which Mountain finished at the back, so I doubt that losing Greaves cost you anything.

 

I could just as easily say that if Mark hadn't fallen on the first lap of heat 5 he would have picked up a point when Sedgy baled out.

 

 

And yes there was virtually no overtaking - twice in 15 races? Better than the 1 in 15 races last week I suppose.

Check the Updates for last night as written by Sue - most races were FTG.

 

It's such a shame that something about the track is not lending itself to better racing.

It was much better 2 or 3 seasons ago.

 

 

 

However Ippo deserved the win on the night - overall they rode better than we did.

Everyone did their bit for them whereas we had some races where I would have expected us to do better.

Your entitled to your view

 

but..........King didnt lay it down he picked up drive and disappeared under the air fence..........much the same way Sedgman did earlier.

[Baldyman]

So last week we had one race with passing and this week 2 races with passing? So the track and racing was twice as good. Maybe next week with a couple more of the track tweaks we can get 3 heats with passing.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

So last week we had one race with passing and this week 2 races with passing? So the track and racing was twice as good. Maybe next week with a couple more of the track tweaks we can get 3 heats with passing.

just think what the play off final will be like.... 😆

[AntiqueSteve]

Must just mention Rory's ride to edge out Masters..awesome, truly professional, didn't touch him but just moved him out enough to make him go wide on the bend for the overtake, absolute class act

[Mr Blobby]

3 5-1s on the bounce killed us apart from that it seems we done okay. Just need to find a bit more consistency all the through the meeting as we always seem to have a point in the meeting just now we're we seem to just fall away.

[Gavan]

3 5-1s on the bounce killed us apart from that it seems we done okay. Just need to find a bit more consistency all the through the meeting as we always seem to have a point in the meeting just now we're we seem to just fall away.

Wells wasnt as good as ive seen him and Mark Riss was poor as well. The reserves should have done better , Clegg in particular.

 

Masters was solid and Erik Riss looks very very good. Pickering deserved more and is a neat little rider

[TheScotsman]

Wells wasnt as good as ive seen him and Mark Riss was poor as well. The reserves should have done better , Clegg in particular.

 

Masters was solid and Erik Riss looks very very good. Pickering deserved more and is a neat little rider

 

Heavens I can actually agree with some of this!!

 

Ricky was great in his first race but deteriorated thereafter though was looking good in heat 13 till he got stuck in the muck.

 

Mark rode well in his first ride to keep Heeps behind him but again deteriorated with a fall and a poor effort in heat 8 behind Heeps and Mountain.

Mountain didn't look the safest thing on 2 wheels and Mark looked reluctant to commit to a pass.

 

Cleggy certainly should have had the beating of Mountain in heat 14 but in fairness did beat him the 3 previous times.

His main problem is that he just doesn't gate consistently enough.

But I don't think he should have been expected to pick up more points than he did.

 

Mitch certainly struggled out of the gate.

His only decent start was his second ride when Greaves came a cropper though he just about got past Mark Riss in heat 8 a couple of times.

He seems to be trying too hard and not relaxing into his racing - completely different when he's racing in the NL.

 

 

But inconsistent gating has been our weakness all season and it punishes you at Ippo.

 

Josh has been very poor out of the gate all season but strangely enough had a couple of great starts last night!!