racers and royals Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Video full coverage - English https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDqlf5Sryr4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Woffy definitely in danger of becoming an 'also ran' such is the level now of the GP.. When up against three of the top eight in the same race you no longer see him as anywhere near favourite (especially if on the outside gates) and this year he is running lasts too many times against this level of opposition... Seems to find himself "unluckily" in the wrong place at the wrong time too far more than he ever did, which is usually a sign of a rider struggling to match up to his rivals... The tape exclusion from the inside grid last night is probably an example of the pressure he feels to get out in front. There is no margin for error this year given the talent on view... Should finish top eight but for him that won't be good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Am I alone in thinking Tai tends to back out/hold back and relies on the cut back far too much, he seems a far cry from the Tai that won 2 world titles only a few years ago.I think the issue is the cut back is not working. Riders know to hold tight on the inside, woffy gets blocked and often then in a bad position allowing others to go round the outside of him. That said, what cost him was the tape exclusion off red and in his easiest heat - a won there would have got him the inside grid for the semi so I would say that exclusion cost him around 7 points. Have to say for the first time this season he isn't my pick now for champion, Doyle certainly looked like one last night. I didn't see every heat but from what I saw it looked mainly a gating competition. You must have missed a lot of the heats, I thought it was a cracking gp. Certainly one of pragues best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 TAI was on PJR engines but he blew his chances when he broke the tapes after a sensational win. Doesn't seem 100 per cent with it. Emil not the rider he was. Now married with two-year-old son and with a number of nasty injuries still on his mind. Unlikely to mix it like he used to. Dunno how you can say that about Emil after his ride in the semis in Latvia!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Dunno how you can say that about Emil after his ride in the semis in Latvia!! Maybe he could do with the same engines as Hancock.He does look very slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Pawlicki makes a perfect start gets a warning , Doyle goes through tapes but gets no warning ,think this rule needs dropping Doyle is the new Tomasz Gollob , who will step forward and be the new Craig Boyce ,personally I can't wait to see it Overall a good meeting, just "too slow" in getting going. Pity they do not have 4 heats before the main GP (non GP riders of course, just to settle the track in. Doyle did well to turn it around after just qualifying for the semis. Hancock deserved his 18 points. Perhaps after what PhilRising just said maybe Tai needs to switch tuners (or perhaps he did - oops). Biggest disappointment tonight - well two actually - Fast Freddie (perhaps still not fully fit) and Emil, who was a shadow of what he can do - bike just not fast enough and missing most starts. Emil just let anybody push him anywhere seemed as if he was scared to race . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 People say Tai isn't what he was. I'm not sure that's right, he's doing the exact same things as the last 3 years. I'd say what's different is the new breed having bigger elbows, harder swinging rear wheels and rear wheel chasers. So far this series I've realised just how soft the series had been over the last 2-3 years. Now we have Lindgren, Doyle, Zmarzlik, Dudek, Vaculik, Pawlicki all in the top 8 willing to throw machines at each other. If you're not prepared for an on track fight you'll fall short and for me, Tai is sort of that fighting spirit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Pawlicki makes a perfect start gets a warning , Doyle goes through tapes but gets no warning ,think this rule needs droppingAgree a joke of a rule why are refs so interested in catching riders out get the tapes up for god sake again it spoiled the meeting as a spectacle and certainly cost Pawlicki a semi final spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Very entertaining GP once it got going. Never thought I would ever say that about a meeting at The Marketa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Prague never misses as a City break, but this time the racing matched the rest of the weekend. Hopefully Prague will get a new contract that will see it add to their 21 years of SGP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Emil just let anybody push him anywhere seemed as if he was scared to race . I agree completely, I noticed he was backing out of situations that he would usually keep pushing. Someone mentioned Latvia GP earlier, and yes I too saw Emil really battling, going for gaps on the straights that was making me cringe. In Prague there was no "fire", even his starts were lacking, whereas he would normally be into the corner first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnboy Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) Doyle is the new Tomasz Gollob , who will step forward and be the new Craig Boyce ,personally I can't wait to see it dont think that will happen as Jason Doyle is more likely to do a Craig Boyce on other riders as he is not frightened of having a tear up and he has had a few !! Edited June 11, 2017 by lynnboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 FLEMING Gravesen supplies engines for Jason Doyle. Incidentally, he used three different bikes last night. Holder went all out for trying to get out of the start, and did so after this first two, but still lacked top end speed. Prague never misses as a City break, but this time the racing matched the rest of the weekend. Hopefully Prague will get a new contract that will see it add to their 21 years of SGP. ONE more year at least. Pavel Ondrasik and Tomas Topinka are during a great job at the Marketa. Gradually they have been introducing a new racing surface and are reaping the benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Regarding the starts. Surely if Kildemand was adjudged to have jumped the start then the race was stopped at that point. So how was Doyle also punished for touching the tapes? And if Doyle was done for touching the tapes then there was nothing wrong with Kildemands start?! And what about Magic and Hancock rolling and jumping all night?! Hancock jumped both runnings of the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Regarding the starts. Surely if Kildemand was adjudged to have jumped the start then the race was stopped at that point. So how was Doyle also punished for touching the tapes? And if Doyle was done for touching the tapes then there was nothing wrong with Kildemands start?! And what about Magic and Hancock rolling and jumping all night?! Hancock jumped both runnings of the final. must have missed that !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 must have missed that !! ME too and I was sitting in the booth next the referee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Am I alone in thinking Tai tends to back out/hold back and relies on the cut back far too much, he seems a far cry from the Tai that won 2 world titles only a few years ago.I agree Tai has not been willing to mix it on 1st bend was the same last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Regarding the starts. Surely if Kildemand was adjudged to have jumped the start then the race was stopped at that point. So how was Doyle also punished for touching the tapes? And if Doyle was done for touching the tapes then there was nothing wrong with Kildemands start?! And what about Magic and Hancock rolling and jumping all night?! Hancock jumped both runnings of the final. Agree with this. Questions that need answering by the ref. I agree Tai has not been willing to mix it on 1st bend was the same last season. He is riding with his brain and for longevity by avoiding a tangle.. Maybe Hancock has had a word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) ME too and I was sitting in the booth next the refereeRewatch heat 1 as both are in it. They both let the bike roll but they moved their body back, watch their bikes and not them. And they both did it all night. Heat 5 he rolls back before eeking forward both times. Edited June 11, 2017 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Doyle is the new Tomasz Gollob , who will step forward and be the new Craig Boyce ,personally I can't wait to see it dont think that will happen as Jason Doyle is more likely to do a Craig Boyce on other riders as he is not frightened of having a tear up and he has had a few !! mardyarsed whining Aussies don't scare the Poles . sure somebody will .if not a rider .a mechanic ,or team manager definitely will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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