Joseq7 Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Total and complete vindication. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Total and complete vindication.agree with the first 3 words but vindication is not my choice for the final word 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Gone to hell in a handcart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 So can we appeal the ridiculous exclusion for Garcia in heat 10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Gone to hell in a handcart.the handcart was found found to have oversized wheels but the results stands as it was beyond doubt that hell is the destination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Gone to hell in a handcart. Aye back in the day when the Dark Lord was Imperial Wizard at the BSPA Hilton , Glasgow wouldn't have got that decision . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yearbyred Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 It vindicates the fact that Glasgow would almost certainly have won the meeting. Doesn't vindicate the rumour mongering and veiled accusations of some on here (and elsewhere) We need to move on and hopefully when the Tigers come to Redcar again we will have a full team and a bit more luck going for us on track. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 It vindicates the fact that Glasgow would almost certainly have won the meeting. Doesn't vindicate the rumour mongering and veiled accusations of some on here (and elsewhere) We need to move on and hopefully when the Tigers come to Redcar again we will have a full team and a bit more luck going for us on track. Aye I hope there's no lingering bad feeling between our two clubs , I've a lot of good friends among the Bears fans , even stayed at Big Russ' house one year when the Tigers were down , even went for a Parmo lol . Time to draw a line under this meeting now . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 To be fair Glasgow did deserve the points, however this independent ruling and interpretation does concern me for future contentious issues. It comes back to how you read the rule, to me the result to be beyond doubt is at the end of 15 heats not 10, which is obviously what this is based on. Does this mean then that if a team is 16 points ahead after 7 heats and meeting cannot go ahead the result will be called? Anyway looks like we can move on now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yearbyred Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just read the report on the Tigers website - I was willing to forgive and forget, but they've put "Teeside" instead of "Teesside". Again! Deliberate act of provocation - is there anything in the rule book to say we can appeal? If there isn't can we get the rules changed to say there should be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 To be fair Glasgow did deserve the points, however this independent ruling and interpretation does concern me for future contentious issues. It comes back to how you read the rule, to me the result to be beyond doubt is at the end of 15 heats not 10, which is obviously what this is based on. Does this mean then that if a team is 16 points ahead after 7 heats and meeting cannot go ahead the result will be called? Anyway looks like we can move on now! I understand the frustration , a meeting should run 15 heats before a result counts . But promoters have been eroding the value for money factor for years now . You do worry where the sport will be in 5 years time . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) Re the arguement that the result should be called despite not running heat 10 as the result want in doubt. The regulations don't allow it so it cannot/should not happen. Look at the regulation re averages and the requirement for 4 home 4 away. There is provision to award a new average without this being met and it still is not so why would it be decided to make an award of a match result where there is no such provision in any circumstance. Try Art 15.12 of the Speedway Regulations Oh dear oh dear oh dear At least Neil will be happy Why would I be happy? I have no direct interest in the meeting concerned. I was however aware of the rule, having successfully requested exactly the same ruling for a Coventry Storm meeting in 2015. (Edited for typo) Edited June 5, 2017 by NeilWatson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Happy to be proved correct Neil -thats all I meant. Happy to be proved correct Neil -thats all I meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 I understand the frustration , a meeting should run 15 heats before a result counts . But promoters have been eroding the value for money factor for years now . You do worry where the sport will be in 5 years time . The sport in 5 years time . If this carries on at this rate there won't be a sport called speedway in this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 It is fast didappearing up its own exhaust pipe 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 4th at 5/4 fav. the jolly,,,, mugs game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 FFS. So Speedway is now 9 heats, unless you're lucky and you may get anything from 10 to 15 heats. They wonder why people stop going, its because people want to see 15 heats! Oh and the result wasn't certain, it was still possible for Redcar to score 39 to Glasgows 32, meaning it was still possible for Glasgow to leave with nothing. There are factors that makes this BSPA decision understandable and clear in their statement. Heat 10 had already been started twice with the exclusions of both Redcar riders As stated, at worst Glasgow would still have been 8 up if their rider's hadn't completed the heat Because of the worst possible outcome of heat 10 and the Bears curfew at 10pm no other outcome was possible 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Sour grapes???? This is a decision made for the right reasons whether we agree or not. There is no way a team should be punished for another tracks curfew, not in a million years. And if I'm honest its something that I've been concerned about previously. No one is paying full whack for nine heats . wherever that came from its just bollocks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyvalleywoolerman Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 SGB statement Glasgow have been awarded the match 24-32 and given 4 points for away win Money talks But it don't sing and dance And it don't walk But it gets decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yearbyred Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Sour grapes???? This is a decision made for the right reasons whether we agree or not. There is no way a team should be punished for another tracks curfew, not in a million years. And if I'm honest its something that I've been concerned about previously. No one is paying full whack for nine heats . wherever that came from its just bollocks. I'm paying full price - I lost my rain off ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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