Norfolk Bear Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 As all the riders have to be there for Friday why is it that Ellis Perks cannot ride for Redcar on Thursday yet Dan Bewley can ride for Glasgow against Redcar ,Josh Bates rides for Sheffield &Rob Lambert for Newcastle at Ipswich ? Plus Perks will probably not get a ride. This will gift Glasgow 3 points as we are only allowed a national league 2 pointer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yearbyred Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I assume it's a logistical thing, rather than being allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 As all the riders have to be there for Friday why is it that Ellis Perks cannot ride for Redcar on Thursday yet Dan Bewley can ride for Glasgow against Redcar ,Josh Bates rides for Sheffield &Rob Lambert for Newcastle at Ipswich ? Plus Perks will probably not get a ride. This will gift Glasgow 3 points as we are only allowed a national league 2 pointer. Who say`s all riders have to be there Friday ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 So, does that mean these riders will be unavailable over the weekend? i.e. Robert and Josh will miss Newcastle Vs Sheffield on Sunday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 As all the riders have to be there for Friday why is it that Ellis Perks cannot ride for Redcar on Thursday yet Dan Bewley can ride for Glasgow against Redcar ,Josh Bates rides for Sheffield &Rob Lambert for Newcastle at Ipswich ? Plus Perks will probably not get a ride. This will gift Glasgow 3 points as we are only allowed a national league 2 pointer. Wasn't aware Perks would be missing how did you hear about this, as far as I am aware Dan riding Thursday and Sunday , albeit we have put the start time back on Sunday to allow both Dan & Richie time to get back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenR195 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) Perks misses the meeting as he needs to drive him bikes over to Germany which takes 18 hours, and needs to be there for 12midday on Friday for a practice session, so he wouldnt make it if he rode on Thursday, bewley can ride because bewleys family are driving bikes over for him and then Glasgow are paying for a flight for him after the meeting, lambert should still be able to ride on Thursday at Ipswich as he already has bikes in Germany so just needs a flight, Edited May 31, 2017 by BenR195 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Perks misses the meeting as he needs to drive him bikes over to Germany which takes 18 hours, and needs to be there for 12midday on Friday for a practice session, so he wouldnt make it if he rode on Thursday, bewley can ride because bewleys family are driving bikes over for him and then Glasgow are paying for a flight for him after the meeting, lambert should still be able to ride on Thursday at Ipswich as he already has bikes in Germany so just needs a flight, The one thing you have wrong is that practice is at 4pm- although signing on/machine examination has to be done before then- not 4 hours before though !! Also practice isn`t compulsory( might be by team GB not by FIM) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenR195 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 The one thing you have wrong is that practice is at 4pm- although signing on/machine examination has to be done before then- not 4 hours before though !! Also practice isn`t compulsory( might be by team GB not by FIM) Bikes need to be there soo long before to be set up, tyres fitted and then examined, for a standard league meeting we arrive at a track roughly 3 hours before meeting starts, we don't just arrive when the fans arrive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 this will affect not just Redcar result but crowd too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Bikes need to be there soo long before to be set up, tyres fitted and then examined, for a standard league meeting we arrive at a track roughly 3 hours before meeting starts, we don't just arrive when the fans arrive For 8 minutes practice, my suggestion would be- do the Thursday meeting in the UK and earn some money. Leisurely trip over Friday/Saturday. The other boys will give info on the track at practice. The track will be completely different probably on raceday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenR195 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 For 8 minutes practice, my suggestion would be- do the Thursday meeting in the UK and earn some money. Leisurely trip over Friday/Saturday. The other boys will give info on the track at practice. The track will be completely different probably on raceday If practice isn't as important like you are implying why do most Championship events/GP's have practice sessions which most of the lineup use? Most of Team GB will have never seen the Pöcking track before so a practice session will be good for them to get used to the track and get better dialled in so they have a better chance when it comes to the main meeting, yeah it is disappointing that riders may miss a club meeting but we should be proud of them for representing our country not moaning at them for missing a league meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldywonkenoldi Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 If practice isn't as important like you are implying why do most Championship events/GP's have practice sessions which most of the lineup use? Most of Team GB will have never seen the Pöcking track before so a practice session will be good for them to get used to the track and get better dialled in so they have a better chance when it comes to the main meeting, yeah it is disappointing that riders may miss a club meeting but we should be proud of them for representing our country not moaning at them for missing a league meeting Like any sport people are more interested in their own team, not the National squads, We are annoyed because we are losing one of the best reserves in the league, being replaced by a NL no hoper, who may score a point if one of the opposition falls off, and it is also against probably the best team in the league, OTHER THAN US 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yearbyred Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 As a bears fan I'm moaning because we are losing an excellent rider for a meeting and nobody else appears to be (for whatever reason) . Plus there is a chance Ellis won't even get a ride in Germany. Coupled with the fact that he is missing a home meeting against excellent opposition who are at full strength whilst our team is 3 riders down. Apart from that - no complaints 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenR195 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 We can't help replacing him with a NL rider though, his new average hasn't came into affect yet so it's something we have to deal with, wallinger has been scoring well in the NL so why not give him a chance, there is no rider out there that we could use for Ellis that would score us what Ellis scores us so our hands are tied really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 We can't help replacing him with a NL rider though, his new average hasn't came into affect yet so it's something we have to deal with, wallinger has been scoring well in the NL so why not give him a chance, there is no rider out there that we could use for Ellis that would score us what Ellis scores us so our hands are tied really yes but ours aren't - dozens and dozens won't go - the cost of a flight will be nothing with 200 £16 quids missing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I mean he's reserve for GB he could ride for Redcar surely, not missing any meetings that way just a practise at a track he probably won't get his bike onto again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 yes but ours aren't - dozens and dozens won't go - the cost of a flight will be nothing with 200 £16 quids missing It`s not the flight - it`s the bikes !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 It`s not the flight - it`s the bikes !! Christ he must have more than one I was taking 3 adults and 2 kids - £56 plus 10 or 15 at the bar and shop - going to an Italian instead - all dishes on the menu will be available 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenR195 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I've just had a message off Kevin Keay telling me Redcar were told Ellis had to be at the Practice session Loving all these part time fans that think they know everything about speedway and bikes and what riders should be doing, it's alright saying riders should have more than one bike but but who's gonna pay all this money for riders to buy extra bikes to go to different countries on the off chance they may get picked, riders have 2 bikes and those 2 bikes are needed at a league meeting, if a rider is lucky enough to be able to afford 4 bikes then yes he could maybe plan to have 2 bikes sent out while he rides the other 2 but some riders don't have that luxury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I've just had a message off Kevin Keay telling me Redcar were told Ellis had to be at the Practice session I suppose it depends on who told them- if it was Neil Vatcher they could have told him that he didn`t have the equipment to do Redcar on Thursday and make it to Pocking for practice and request dispensation to not do practice.- maybe they already did and it was refused ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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