lionking Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 It shows just how little you know because promotion is not Alan Jones job. Press Officer is his job he sends all the match reports to all local & national Radio & newspapers , we are then lucky it they even print the result or mention us on air. But the club are up against it after David Hemsley wanted to charge local radio & newspaper reporters admission fee's to report from matches but the new promotion are working tirelessly to repair those bridges & held positive talks with a midlands radio station who are extremely keen to form a partnership with the club. Alan Jones does 1 hell of alot of stuff for OUR club in the background & he was pivotal in ensuring you have a speedway club to moan about week in week out without him this club would be run by Mick Horton under the Leicester Bee's . The promotion of the sport in the city falls on Dave Darcy & Neil Machin the clue is in the name Promotors . It's seems clear Alan Jones is Not up to the job and the Leicester promotion need to replace him and get somebody in capable of promoting the club better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirl Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) To me it seems like basic "promotion". Needs the media machine in force but basic promotion is lacking. Bank holiday Monday, kids off school, busy shopping centre... is it an issue to put a stand in the centre aisle with signs and a bike and be seen by 15,000-20,000 locals over a 3 day weekend? This public resource is a great way to take the sport to a bigger and new audience. It's not cutting edge marketing but surely it's a vast improvement on relying solely on current patrons to attend and spread the word for you. It's seems clear Alan Jones is Not up to the job and the Leicester promotion need to replace him and get somebody in capable of promoting the club better. It's seems clear Alan Jones is Not up to the job and the Leicester promotion need to replace him and get somebody in capable of promoting the club better. I agree that promoting speedway in Leicester could be better but can be an expensive thing. After the last few years of turmoil it must have been difficult to drag people back after their disillusionment under the last regime. It's about entertainment and people would come once only to find that the product wasn't very good,so they act with their feet and don't bother coming back. What has changed, the track is much better after the alterations made but it's all about having a sucessful team that is winning and giving 100% Knowing how Leicestershire sport is it's all about results and you can advertise all you like but as the saying goes 'you can't polish a turd ' I know we must be thankful to still have speedway in Leicester and hopefully this is a transition season but it's about bums on seats and to achieve this it's the product which has to be better Shirl Edited May 31, 2017 by Shirl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I'm a Speedway supporter Leicester is not my team but I totally agree, I feel all speedway in this Country gets hardly any advertising or media coverage and what doesn't help is years ago many teams used to be near built up areas where residents would live within walking distance but now lots of those stadiums are housing estates and also some stadiums are in remote areas (unlike Leicester) so people don't even know they exist. Advertising can be expensive but every little helps I have stickers on my car windows and when I stay in hotels and do a Trip Advisor review I always put "the hotel is close to Motorway, Railway Station etc and Leicester (or other) Speedway etc" it is not much but I feel every little helps. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 It's seems clear Alan Jones is Not up to the job and the Leicester promotion need to replace him and get somebody in capable of promoting the club better.Your comments are like Marmite Robt72 but on this occasion I think your personal attack on Alan Jones is completely out of order 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Your comments are like Marmite Robt72 but on this occasion I think your personal attack on Alan Jones is completely out of order Is he Not the PR/Media man at Leicester Speedway and the one who should be putting the sport in the face of people in Leicestershire ? Big shopping center next door and nothing in there about a speedway meeting at 2pm on Bank holiday monday,Thousands would of visited there over the weekend and they wouldn't have a clue there was a sporting event next door, that to me is lack of a golden PR opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 PR is public relations so he deals with complaints & issues from the BSPA , ACU & the public. The issue is with the facebook & twitter is that this used to be run in house until this season when AP Media took over the website & social media. So now it can take upto 12 hours for things to go live on the website or social media platforms because AP media run around 15 speedway websites along with many other sports websites. Is he Not the PR/Media man at Leicester Speedway and the one who should be putting the sport in the face of people in Leicestershire ? Big shopping center next door and nothing in there about a speedway meeting at 2pm on Bank holiday monday,Thousands would of visited there over the weekend and they wouldn't have a clue there was a sporting event next door, that to me is lack of a golden PR opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyP Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) PR is public relations so he deals with complaints & issues from the BSPA , ACU & the public. The issue is with the facebook & twitter is that this used to be run in house until this season when AP Media took over the website & social media. So now it can take upto 12 hours for things to go live on the website or social media platforms because AP media run around 15 speedway websites along with many other sports websites. This is incorrect. I was approached by the club during the winter to build them a new website - which I did. I don't personally write anything for the website - apart from the odd postponement notice. A few people now have access to update the Lions website and as soon as it is emailed to one of us the website is updated. Usually within a few minutes - certainly not 12 hours as you've stated. Also results and scorers from home and away matches are posted to the website within 15 minutes of the meeting finishing. Full match report and reaction will follow later. Social Media (Twitter and Facebook) are handled much the same. They both take an automated RSS news feed off the website, but are also updated manually throughout the day with various news snippets. The service used for the automated RSS feed for Twitter and Facebook checks the news feed for new stories every 30 minutes 24/7. However, if it is something urgent like a postponement then that will be posted manually as soon as it it is physically possibly to do so. Edited May 31, 2017 by AndyP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Really strevebrumbrum why would you be sorry about a rival team having the potential of getting someone with experience on board. Depends which one of you has the experience. It's hard to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 In that case Andy please accept my apology , this info was fed to me at the first meeting of the season when i asked about the lack of match updates via social media which has stopped. This is incorrect. I was approached by the club during the winter to build them a new website - which I did. I don't personally write anything for the website - apart from the odd postponement notice. A few people now have access to update the Lions website and as soon as it is emailed to one of us the website is updated. Usually within a few minutes - certainly not 12 hours as you've stated. Also results and scorers from home and away matches are posted to the website within 15 minutes of the meeting finishing. Full match report and reaction will follow later. Social Media (Twitter and Facebook) are handled much the same. They both take an automated RSS news feed off the website, but are also updated manually throughout the day with various news snippets. The service used for the automated RSS feed for Twitter and Facebook checks the news feed for new stories every 30 minutes 24/7. However, if it is something urgent like a postponement then that will be posted manually as soon as it it is physically possibly to do so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Is he Not the PR/Media man at Leicester Speedway and the one who should be putting the sport in the face of people in Leicestershire ? I think what you have in mind is Marketing and Promotion, and as someone else has rightly pointed out, there are others responsible for that Big shopping center next door and nothing in there about a speedway meeting at 2pm on Bank holiday monday,Thousands would of visited there over the weekend and they wouldn't have a clue there was a sporting event next door, that to me is lack of a golden PR opportunity. Is he Not the PR/Media man at Leicester Speedway and the one who should be putting the sport in the face of people in Leicestershire ? Big shopping center next door and nothing in there about a speedway meeting at 2pm on Bank holiday monday,Thousands would of visited there over the weekend and they wouldn't have a clue there was a sporting event next door, that to me is lack of a golden PR opportunity. I think what you have in mind is Marketing and Promotion and, as others have said, that's the remit of others at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyP Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 In that case Andy please accept my apology , this info was fed to me at the first meeting of the season when i asked about the lack of match updates via social media which has stopped. Fair play for apologising. No problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 On paper Leicester has a massive population to draw from but when you actually slice it ,quite small , more than 50% are asian ,somali and every other tom dick and harry foreigner , you ain't never getting any of them to spend their benefits going to speedway. of the other 40 % there are 2 very successful teams to support , Leicester city and Leicester tigers . so promoting speedway is an massive uphill task . and a limited budget makes it even harder , final death knell would be if the council ever had the foresight to build an ice rink , an ice hockey team would attract what few supporters speedway has left ,with all the razzmataz that goes on during their matches , Leicester were dealt a massive blow by 1 simple mistake ,the people who worked so hard over so long to bring it back ,allowed Hemsley to get involved ,the rest as they say is history . Him and his little gang of yes men and sycophants did damage to Leicester speedway that will be almost impossible to recover from , this new promotion have to rebuild from below ground up which is where Hemsley ( and lets not forget his mouthpiece wife put them , I don't live very far from Leicester but I don't go ,because I'm a Coventry fan , even if I did consider going having seen some of the posts from MRCTS on here i wouldn't feel welcome , IMHO the club need to find who he is and publicly distance themselves from him by banning him because of the bad feeling he has created amongst a potential few Bees fans who might turn coat and put bums on Leicesters seats , providing a winning team in the elite league these days is almost impossible while british speedway continues to pander to the Poles , shortchanging season ticket holders has been another nail in the coffin . the man who delivers my post ,has been a season ticket holder since Leicester restarted , but not honouring the raincheck from last season Kings Lynn match has cost them his support . speedway's loss = ice hockeys gain . he's now a blaze supporter lost to speedway altogether , Dumping Long Eaton , another mistake , people started to lose interest in Long Eaton when the ridiculous interviews with riders and especially Norrie Allen started dragging the proceedings out ,to the point where the MDL matches were being run in 10 minutes after wasting half an hour pissing about waiting for and then listening to inane drivel from presenters and Norrie Allen who ended up speaking to himself because the stadium was empty . having ditched the mdl , supporters who have paid their money for an evenings entertainment have the option of leaving after 15 minutes of racing ,or listening to crap interviews and then watching the same 2 kids go round and round, Wow value for money or what People keep metioning bums on seats but there are only 400 at Leicester and they are usually nearly full!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) On paper Leicester has a massive population to draw from but when you actually slice it ,quite small , more than 50% are asian ,somali and every other tom dick and harry foreigner , you ain't never getting any of them to spend their benefits going to speedway. All of them are on benefits? What a ridiculous thing to say and just plain racist. No English born and bred claim benefits then? Edited June 1, 2017 by Shads 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 All of them are on benefits? What a ridiculous thing to say and just plain racist. No English born and bred claim benefits then? I wouldnt bother his views are disgusting to say the least 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) All of them are on benefits? What a ridiculous thing to say and just plain racist. No English born and bred claim benefits then? Just to make it clear I 'liked' his post because I live in Leicester and agreed with 80% of what he said but certainly not that bit. I think we all know his views now and I'm rather hoping if there is actually reincarnation that he comes back as a Black Australian. Edited June 1, 2017 by Gemini 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 I wouldnt bother his views are disgusting to say the least my views didn't lead to someone killing Lee rigby or blowing up 22 innocents in manchester , can you say the same about yours ? well yes of course you can because you are a sanctimonious politically correct idiot , however you actually know that pandering over the years has lead us to this point so does everybody else , so keep it up ,wont be long and you'll have more blood on your hands . disgusting creature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 On paper Leicester has a massive population to draw from but when you actually slice it ,quite small , more than 50% are asian ,somali and every other tom dick and harry foreigner , you ain't never getting any of them to spend their benefits going to speedway. of the other 40 % there are 2 very successful teams to support , Leicester city and Leicester tigers . so promoting speedway is an massive uphill task . and a limited budget makes it even harder , final death knell would be if the council ever had the foresight to build an ice rink , an ice hockey team would attract what few supporters speedway has left ,with all the razzmataz that goes on during their matches , Leicester were dealt a massive blow by 1 simple mistake ,the people who worked so hard over so long to bring it back ,allowed Hemsley to get involved ,the rest as they say is history . Him and his little gang of yes men and sycophants did damage to Leicester speedway that will be almost impossible to recover from , this new promotion have to rebuild from below ground up which is where Hemsley ( and lets not forget his mouthpiece wife put them , I don't live very far from Leicester but I don't go ,because I'm a Coventry fan , even if I did consider going having seen some of the posts from MRCTS on here i wouldn't feel welcome , IMHO the club need to find who he is and publicly distance themselves from him by banning him because of the bad feeling he has created amongst a potential few Bees fans who might turn coat and put bums on Leicesters seats , providing a winning team in the elite league these days is almost impossible while british speedway continues to pander to the Poles , shortchanging season ticket holders has been another nail in the coffin . the man who delivers my post ,has been a season ticket holder since Leicester restarted , but not honouring the raincheck from last season Kings Lynn match has cost them his support . speedway's loss = ice hockeys gain . he's now a blaze supporter lost to speedway altogether , Dumping Long Eaton , another mistake , people started to lose interest in Long Eaton when the ridiculous interviews with riders and especially Norrie Allen started dragging the proceedings out ,to the point where the MDL matches were being run in 10 minutes after wasting half an hour pissing about waiting for and then listening to inane drivel from presenters and Norrie Allen who ended up speaking to himself because the stadium was empty . having ditched the mdl , supporters who have paid their money for an evenings entertainment have the option of leaving after 15 minutes of racing ,or listening to crap interviews and then watching the same 2 kids go round and round, Wow value for money or what what a disgusting post you racist pig....you should be banned for life on this forum! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) my views didn't lead to someone killing Lee rigby or blowing up 22 innocents in manchester , can you say the same about yours ? well yes of course you can because you are a sanctimonious politically correct idiot , however you actually know that pandering over the years has lead us to this point so does everybody else , so keep it up ,wont be long and you'll have more blood on your hands . disgusting creature Dr Harold Shipman... over 200 murders attributed to that monster.... Pretty sure he wasn't a foreigner. Peter Sutcliffe? A Yorkshireman I believe. You want some more? Nothing to do with political correctness, but plenty to do with knocking over the ramblings of a bigot. As the offspring of immigrants, who worked and contributed taxes their entire lives here, I take great exception to this misinformed idiotic bile Edited June 3, 2017 by Shads 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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