Chairboy Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Shads, that is a good point. I drove up for my first visit to the track yesterday with a few friends. The satnav took us to the shopping centre but we still couldn't see where the track was, even though we were virtually on top of it! I'm not saying this to criticise the Leicester management - I know they have had a difficult time there keeping speedway running in recent years. Better signage would help, as would an audible PA system (another gripe which could equally be applied to some other tracks.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perton Wolf Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 The shopping center was packed today and no posters up, I guess there are a lot of people in Leicester still unaware speedway has returned to Leicester. Promotion relying on hardcore fans to bring a friend or neighbour is not good enough. Why does Speedway Promotion in this country seem to be so inept? They haven't adapted to social media at all and even old fashioned ways of advertising (posters etc) don't seem to feature for most clubs. I know Wolves have a decent Twitter Feed with 10K followers but there isn't much content up on there either and you wouldn't find anything in the City Centre etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Why does Speedway Promotion in this country seem to be so inept? They haven't adapted to social media at all and even old fashioned ways of advertising (posters etc) don't seem to feature for most clubs. I know Wolves have a decent Twitter Feed with 10K followers but there isn't much content up on there either and you wouldn't find anything in the City Centre etc. Don't be deceived by that Titter Feed of 10k Wolves followers. People tend to join these groups - and that's the end of it solar as they are concerned. How many ACTUALLY follow what is posted - and how does that 10k compare with how many regularly turn up to attend a Wolves speedway meeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Were you there? We waited for over an hour, with impeding rain, to go from a difficult track to a first class surface. I'm interested if you think that's justified? Especially considering heat 15 and the eventual result??? An interesting comment over the tannoy (spelling?) at about 14.00, "If you'd seen the track two hours ago, you wouldn't have thought there would be a meeting today. Well when we arrived 20 minutes before that, nothing was happening on track. So what had been done in those 2 hours? Either they had fixed the problems and had stopped work or what happened next was the truth i.e. the riders dictated what needed to be done, which could have been done two hours before. Sorry Leicester. You made mistakes which could have been avoided without a crystal ball. You prepared a tack that riders refused to ride on and then used up a significant chunk of the time before the rain came such that heat 15 cost you a chance of winning the meeting. Whilst I agree with posters that the track staff did an excellent job in the circumstances I seem to recall that someone, possibly Glyn, came on here and explained that, if rain was expected, the best thing to do was to remove the shale before it started raining so that the rain just ran off the hard surface into the drains and did not soak into the shale which would then be difficult to remove because it would be of a wet concrete consistency. This is exactly what happened yesterday - we all witnessed that the tractor with the bucket had difficulty scraping the surface away hence the need to load the bucket by shovel. On the announcement front everyone knew they were being extremely optimistic with their announcements. Its like being treated like idiots! Also the presenter missed a glorious opportunity to get a riders view of the situation when one of the Rockets riders spend about 15 minutes prodding the track near the start. Why did he not interview him. It would at least have made a change from watching the dumper truck racing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Why does Speedway Promotion in this country seem to be so inept? They haven't adapted to social media at all and even old fashioned ways of advertising (posters etc) don't seem to feature for most clubs. I know Wolves have a decent Twitter Feed with 10K followers but there isn't much content up on there either and you wouldn't find anything in the City Centre etc. Alan Jones the Leicester PR/Media guy needs replacing as it's clear he is Not doing a good enough job to promote the sport in Leicester as a lot of people still don't know Leicester has a speedway team. Maybe the club should employ a teenager to do the PR instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Alan Jones the Leicester PR/Media guy needs replacing as it's clear he is Not doing a good enough job to promote the sport in Leicester as a lot of people still don't know Leicester has a speedway team. Maybe the club should employ a teenager to do the PR instead. with you everyone needs replacing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesM09 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 The way I saw it, perks was clearly unhappy at Ayres by his waving down the back straight and then sped up and clearly aimed his bike at Ayres and let go of it, pure madness from a hot headed perks,looked crystal clear. I'm not surprised Ellis was unhappy at Danny Ayres as he was very forceful in turn 1 (Which IMO is completely stupid with the track conditions), Perks chased him down the back straight went in too hot and lost the back end. Pretty sure there was no intention to put Danny Ayres into the airfence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennylion Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 To me it seems like basic "promotion". Needs the media machine in force but basic promotion is lacking. Bank holiday Monday, kids off school, busy shopping centre... is it an issue to put a stand in the centre aisle with signs and a bike and be seen by 15,000-20,000 locals over a 3 day weekend? This public resource is a great way to take the sport to a bigger and new audience. It's not cutting edge marketing but surely it's a vast improvement on relying solely on current patrons to attend and spread the word for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Monster Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I'm not surprised Ellis was unhappy at Danny Ayres as he was very forceful in turn 1 (Which IMO is completely stupid with the track conditions), Perks chased him down the back straight went in too hot and lost the back end. Pretty sure there was no intention to put Danny Ayres into the airfence.Ayres took Perks wide that's all, nothing more than Harris did to Garrity a few races later. I can't comment on the incident because I was watching the front 2. If the riders were worried about the condition of the track, they should have refused to ride. If you agree to ride, then no half measures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennylion Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Ayres took Perks wide that's all, nothing more than Harris did to Garrity a few races later. I can't comment on the incident because I was watching the front 2. If the riders were worried about the condition of the track, they should have refused to ride. If you agree to ride, then no half measures. Agree. Nothing untoward and no different (less so) than when Garrity and Bjerre both got pushed wide on separate occasions. My instant feeling at the time was deliberate revenge but whether that was actually the case I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 When will promoters realise that supporters don't care whether a meeting goes ahead or not in such conditions? Apart from waitng ages for the track to be made rideable (hardly ever race-able) They want to see a good match where the state of the track doesn't affect the result . Its well known that a wet track nearly always makes it harder to deal with for the home side than their opponents.so a home win is usually a struggle! I've lost count of the number of times Lynn fans have had to endure long delays watching Buster + tractor doing his best to get the meeting started but its never successful entertainment-wise imo. Seems like the Lions had the same last night so you have my sympathies for what its worth ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Monster Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 When will promoters realise that supporters don't care whether a meeting goes ahead or not in such conditions? Apart from waitng ages for the track to be made rideable (hardly ever race-able) They want to see a good match where the state of the track doesn't affect the result . Its well known that a wet track nearly always makes it harder to deal with for the home side than their opponents.so a home win is usually a struggle! I've lost count of the number of times Lynn fans have had to endure long delays watching Buster + tractor doing his best to get the meeting started but its never successful entertainment-wise imo. Seems like the Lions had the same last night so you have my sympathies for what its worth ... The track was in good shape. The best time was only 0.5 of a second slower than the track record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 The key questions are... 1. Was the track safe at 2.00 p.m.? [Lots of folk around me thought so. In fact they were looking forward to Bomber giving large out in the dirt] 2. If yes, who brought about the track rebuild? [Lots of folk around me saw the riders healing the track and assume it was them that ruled the day] 3. If it wasn't the ref, why didn't he exert his authority? [believable? Well lots of folks around me thought so] 4. Did anyone look at the forecast? [No] 5. Are Leicester a little bit regretful about what happened given that they might have won heat 15 and maybe the meeting overall? [Lots of home fans went home flat, disgruntled and soaking wet] I'm just a homeless Coventry fan. I don't have any rights here. But I did talk to other fans, Leicester fans and they were asking all of the above. It's them you need to be careful of. A few hundred fans either way can make or break a speedway business in this country just now. The track was in good shape. The best time was only 0.5 of a second slower than the track record. We went from a track that would have been a bit heavy to over an hour later, a track that was bereft of shale. There was a dry line after heat 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Team mates at Redcar now should be interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 To me it seems like basic "promotion". Needs the media machine in force but basic promotion is lacking. Bank holiday Monday, kids off school, busy shopping centre... is it an issue to put a stand in the centre aisle with signs and a bike and be seen by 15,000-20,000 locals over a 3 day weekend? This public resource is a great way to take the sport to a bigger and new audience. It's not cutting edge marketing but surely it's a vast improvement on relying solely on current patrons to attend and spread the word for you. It's seems clear Alan Jones is Not up to the job and the Leicester promotion need to replace him and get somebody in capable of promoting the club better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 It's seems clear Alan Jones is Not up to the job and the Leicester promotion need to replace him and get somebody in capable of promoting the club better. How about you Rob? Loads of time on your hands, a huge voice (Gob) and a tactful and diplomatic approach. I'm sure you've already made a significant contribution to Leicester's fortunes......... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) How about you Rob? Loads of time on your hands, a huge voice (Gob) and a tactful and diplomatic approach. I'm sure you've already made a significant contribution to Leicester's fortunes.........Far too busy to do it, Yes it is clear that I have made a significant contribution by keeping on about the track shape which has now been completed and has made a huge difference, just need more grip then it will be perfection for awesome racing in the best stadium for viewing the racing up close. Maybe the club will find someone capable of getting Leicester speedway known to those who don't even know Leicester have a speedway team. Edited May 30, 2017 by robert72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 How about you Rob? Loads of time on your hands, a huge voice (Gob) and a tactful and diplomatic approach. I'm sure you've already made a significant contribution to Leicester's fortunes......... You would have to feel sorry for anyone connected to Leicester speedway if that was to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion tamer Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 If people think sacking alan Jones is a good idea, then it just shows how little they really know about the club. without alan and his wife linda there wouldn't be a speedway club to go watch - in the last few years they have kept the club afloat with all the time they give - you really dont have a clue 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 You would have to feel sorry for anyone connected to Leicester speedway if that was to happen. Really strevebrumbrum why would you be sorry about a rival team having the potential of getting someone with experience on board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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