mikec Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 I'm looking to come down and watch this one and was wondering if any of the regulars to the NSS or people who have been before could advise me on the best place to stand/sit and also whether the stadium has sufficient parking or will I have to park my car somewhere else and walk to the venue. I've not bought my tickets yet so not defo nailed on to be going as was going to just buy them on the day. Thanks for your help. There's parking on St Peter's High just off Kirkmanshulme Lane next to the track, the car park at the stadium off Pinkbank Lane behind the 1st/2nd bend, both are fine, usually charge £3. Can park for free on Kirky Lane but will need to get there early to find a spot. Viewing's good wherever you go, weather forecast looking promising, should be a cracking night's racing, hope you enjoy your visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Looking at the advanced ticket sales for the grandstand it looks like 4 home meetings in 13 days may be one too many for Belle Vue fans? Speedway is never as good on tv as it is when actually at the track so it will be worth it for fans of other clubs to make the effort. When you add in that the forecast looks good at the moment this will be another fantastic meeting at Belle Vue, don't miss going just because it's on TV on a Monday night. Unfortunately the state British speedway is in we need the best riders in Britain to contest the British Final. With arguably our top 2 riders in Woffinden and Lambert absent for differing reasons many fans are looking at a weakened field and choosing to watch this on the box. It is imperative that we get the best field possible for the British Final for it to remain a relevant prestige event. I'm all for qualification but surely there should be 2 wildcards available , 1 for Woffinden and 1 for AN other. We have the British final on the best track in the country, unfortunately its on a Monday night and not a weekend so we need the best field to encourage people to turn out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyvalleywoolerman Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 The important thing is to decide if the first four (or however many) in the British Final will automatically go forward to next season's GP Challenge as, like it or not Robert Lambert is our next rider going into the GP in future and we need him to qualify next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) Rory winning makes a nonsense of all this analysis. And embarrasses us all on July 22nd Edited June 14, 2017 by False dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Ben Barker replaces the injured Lewis Bridger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Rory winning makes a nonsense of all this analysis. And embarrasses us all on July 22nd if he gets a place in Cardiff that's the first cardiff I'm going to miss , I won't go on principle , Edited June 15, 2017 by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Lets not forget that Kyle Newman was originally left out of the semi-finals but was given a place when Charles Wright pulled out ahead of the reserves already named. When Steve Boxall withdrew from the Newcastle semi, were Bewley, Morley and Perry (named as next in line) given the opportunity ahead of Danny Phillips who replaced him? No point in going on about it because clearly Lambert isn't getting a place but it just seems stupid to not have one of the top riders there when we have so few anyway. Likely to put off a few fans from attending and I'm sure BT would rather have him there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Ben Barker replaces the injured Lewis Bridger It had to be Kennett (in the same semi as Bridger) or Barker as the 9th placed finisher in the other semi. I guess as the 9th placed finisher at Sheffield ( Wilkinson) had already been promoted, they decided to not put in the 10th place finisher (Kennett) and take the 9th place finisher ( Barker) As much as i would like to see Lambert ride there is no way he should be allowed to. Just because his van broke down. Lets say he rode in the semi final....he could have scored F, 2, 1,2, ef and not have made it.......nobody knows how he would have got on or what could have happened. Just because he would have likely qualified doesnt mean he would have done. Woffinden asked for a wild card last year and was told no..................same thing applies to Lambert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 There's rules?😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Ben Barker replaces the injured Lewis Bridger Wow, this line-up just gets better and better All we need now is a Rory win to put the cherry on the cake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 It had to be Kennett (in the same semi as Bridger) or Barker as the 9th placed finisher in the other semi. I guess as the 9th placed finisher at Sheffield ( Wilkinson) had already been promoted, they decided to not put in the 10th place finisher (Kennett) and take the 9th place finisher ( Barker) As much as i would like to see Lambert ride there is no way he should be allowed to. Just because his van broke down. Lets say he rode in the semi final....he could have scored F, 2, 1,2, ef and not have made it.......nobody knows how he would have got on or what could have happened. Just because he would have likely qualified doesnt mean he would have done. Woffinden asked for a wild card last year and was told no..................same thing applies to Lambert What was Woffindens excuse this year ?, surely he could have rode in the semi final at Sheffield on a Thursday night ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Robert is a big loss to the meeting but it would be farcical to shoehorn him in. It was farcical that he was barred from the semi because he missed his first ride - he could've stll qualified from his remaining rides! putting Barker in isequally farcical - the whole debacle is yet another example of GB speedway shooting itself in the foot. Surely they realise Lambert is one of few talented riders in British Speedway's future so why alienate him for such a pathetic adherence to yet another of their stupid rules. I'm sure a lot of neutral supporters want to see Britains' best compete in their national final so will serve the bspa right if yet more supporters give up on speedway! Edited June 15, 2017 by Star Fever 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayteezim Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I do understand why Rodert has not been put in however he is part of the future of British Speedway. I think next year it should go back to having 2 wild card slots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) It was farcical that he was barred from the semi because he missed his first ride - he could've stll qualified from his remaining rides! putting Barker in isequally farcical - the whole debacle is yet another example of GB speedway shooting itself in the foot. Surely they realise Lambert is one of few talented riders in British Speedway's future so why alienate him for such a pathetic adherence to yet another of their stupid rules. I'm sure a lot of neutral supporters want to see Britains' best compete in their national final so will serve the bspa right if yet more supporters give up on speedway! No it's not, Barker was beaten in a run off for the last qualifying place at Newcastle. He is therefore next on the list and entitled to take his place. Nothing farcical about that at all... Edited June 16, 2017 by Blupanther 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 It was farcical that he was barred from the semi because he missed his first ride - he could've stll qualified from his remaining rides! putting Barker in isequally farcical - the whole debacle is yet another example of GB speedway shooting itself in the foot. Surely they realise Lambert is one of few talented riders in British Speedway's future so why alienate him for such a pathetic adherence to yet another of their stupid rules. I'm sure a lot of neutral supporters want to see Britains' best compete in their national final so will serve the bspa right if yet more supporters give up on speedway! So the rules should be ignored in this case but not in others. Come on SF you cannot ignore rules just because you don't like their effect, if we did that Poole would never have won all those titles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 It was farcical that he was barred from the semi because he missed his first ride - he could've stll qualified from his remaining rides! putting Barker in isequally farcical - the whole debacle is yet another example of GB speedway shooting itself in the foot. Surely they realise Lambert is one of few talented riders in British Speedway's future so why alienate him for such a pathetic adherence to yet another of their stupid rules. I'm sure a lot of neutral supporters want to see Britains' best compete in their national final so will serve the bspa right if yet more supporters give up on speedway! Not farcical in the slightest. Barker was next in line so quite rightly is in the meeting. The rules are that there are no wildcards...........Tai tried last year. Robert Lambert didnt qualify plain and simple 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 No it's not, Barker was beaten in a run off for the last qualifying place at Newcastle. He is therefore next on the list and entitled to take his place. Nothing farcical about that at all... Agreed yes but he did'nt qualify from his fIVE rides did he? - Lambert was'nt given the chance to have even 4 rides ... he didn't 'not qualify' - he was excluded from the whole meeting simply because he missed ONE ride!! i know rules are rules and the BSPA stick to them like glue but they're just cutting off their nose to spite their face with this crazy decision This rule surely doesn't apply in league matches? so why here? - I know their rules and regs are nonsensical most of the time but this one takes the biscuit imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Agreed yes but he did'nt qualify from his fIVE rides did he? - Lambert was'nt given the chance to have even 4 rides ... he didn't 'not qualify' - he was excluded from the whole meeting simply because he missed ONE ride!! i know rules are rules and the BSPA stick to them like glue but they're just cutting off their nose to spite their face with this crazy decision This rule surely doesn't apply in league matches? so why here? - I know their rules and regs are nonsensical most of the time but this one takes the biscuit imo Would you be reacting like this if say it was James Sargeants or Kyle Newmans van that broke down thus not giving them the opportunity.? Maybe the rules need changing i.e top 7 and 2 wildcards. i agree with that. But the current rules are there for everybody and wether it was Robert Lambert, Chris Harris, Craig Cook, Ashley Morris, Joe Jacobs or Max Clegg, the rules are there for everyone. You cant suddenly change them just because the rider in question is one of our better ones 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 I think the Poles may have bent a few rules in the 60s-70's to ensure there up and coming got to places (meetings) perhaps they wouldnt normally. There were all sorts of stories about unlimited practice, preparing tracks to suit riders style, maybe they even pulled a few "tricks" to get their riders through to certain events. Whatever they dod it paid off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Should Robert Lambert get seeded to the British Final? for the good of British speedway/ BT. Sport it's got to be a BIG YES! After all you can be seeded direct to the Grand Prix what's the difference? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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