Panthers89 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I do hope a rider doesnt get 'dropped' to make way for Robert. All of those qualified by merit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Now Josh Auty has retired would Lambert maybe get that spot or is it the first reserve qualifier from the Scunny Semi Final.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Now Josh Auty has retired would Lambert maybe get that spot or is it the first reserve qualifier from the Scunny Semi Final.? Surely has to be the next qualifier from Scunny, but lets face it, we know it will be Lambert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted May 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 It's got to be Lambert for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 No point in having qualifiers then, may aswell just pick the 16 highest averaged riders 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Two things: He should have been professional enough to ensure that he could arrive in time for the meeting, even if something untoward occurred. Over the years I've seen the top men arriving mid-afternoon for an evening meeting - young Mr Lambert should learn a lesson from this. By every fan, who do you mean? Every speedway fan, or every Lambert fan? I think there's a difference there! I'm pretty sure Robert is always early for meetings. It was a totally genuine break down near Stansted after flying in from abroad, Robert and his family would not have wanted to miss this meeting!!! Every fan who will be going to Belle Vue to the British Final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 The British u21 Champion should always get a shoe into the British Final imo .... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontrader Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I'm pretty sure Robert is always early for meetings. It was a totally genuine break down near Stansted after flying in from abroad, Robert and his family would not have wanted to miss this meeting!!! Every fan who will be going to Belle Vue to the British Final He arrived at Stansted at 7-30am and counldn't get to Newcastle for a 6-30pm start! One and half hours max by train or taxi to Peterborough and then two hours by train Peterborough to Newcastle. His families excuses kept changing -said they tried to get a flight to Glasgow (why!) said the RAC fixed car and it broke down again. That changed to Robert fixed it. If he wanted to be in the meeting he could have even paid the £350 for a taxi from Stansted to Newcastle. Supporters at the Newcastle semi were robbed of the star attraction they paid to see.If he gets seeded what happens next year -riders will not bother with the semis. I love watching Robert ride but for the long term good of the sport he should not be seeded to the Final. Tai had better arguments to be seeded last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Robert has a slightly stronger case with Auty retiring but it really should be one of the reserves. However you can see why there's a desire to get him in, perhaps BT sport are insisting on it. The BSPA could have saved themselves a lot of flak by allowing themselves a wild card from the word go, by which they could elect any rider for any reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 He arrived at Stansted at 7-30am and counldn't get to Newcastle for a 6-30pm start! One and half hours max by train or taxi to Peterborough and then two hours by train Peterborough to Newcastle. His families excuses kept changing -said they tried to get a flight to Glasgow (why!) said the RAC fixed car and it broke down again. That changed to Robert fixed it. If he wanted to be in the meeting he could have even paid the £350 for a taxi from Stansted to Newcastle. Supporters at the Newcastle semi were robbed of the star attraction they paid to see.If he gets seeded what happens next year -riders will not bother with the semis. I love watching Robert ride but for the long term good of the sport he should not be seeded to the Final. Tai had better arguments to be seeded last year Erm.... a rider needs a bike to ride, plus protection wear, plus spare tyres, plus tooling I can see the face on the txi driver and can imagine his reply to the potential client....... on yer bike.....so now we have Robert going up the A1 on his speedway bike, with 20 gall tank of methanol on his back.... love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 There should be a wildcard option in place. As a rule of thumb the place goes to the last qualifier but they should be aware that it's not guarantee as a wildcard could take their spot in unusual circumstances. The potential wildcard would need to plead his case before an SCB/BSPA jury with supporting evidence to his claim before being considered for a place. The rules re qualification have been set this year and to alter them however deserving the case may be would be a farce not to mention unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 There should be a wildcard option in place. As a rule of thumb the place goes to the last qualifier but they should be aware that it's not guarantee as a wildcard could take their spot in unusual circumstances. The potential wildcard would need to plead his case before an SCB/BSPA jury with supporting evidence to his claim before being considered for a place. The rules re qualification have been set this year and to alter them however deserving the case may be would be a farce not to mention unfair. If you believe there should be a wildcard spot each year then Tai should have had one last year. The semi finals are there for a reason, ride them and try to qualify. I remember Mark Loram in 1993? broke his collarbone and tried to ride in the semi at Ipswich but was in to much pain. He didnt get a wildcard and rightly so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Rory winning the British final is more of a concern than lambert missing the semi final. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Rory winning the British final is more of a concern than lambert missing the semi final. So you dont like the idea of a British citizen (born in Australia) winning the British title And you dont like the idea of a British citizen (born in England) winning the British title or World title. Please enlighten me to your criteria as to what nationality is ok for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 So you dont like the idea of a British citizen (born in Australia) winning the British title And you dont like the idea of a British citizen (born in England) winning the British title or World title. Please enlighten me to your criteria as to what nationality is ok for you? Do you think it's good a rider who can no longer get in his Austrailian national team decides to take a young British riders place in the British championship ? Oh Yes Tai is a True Brit of course and even has the British flag tattooed on his body and loves riding in his country in front of British fans plus so dedicated to the national title and racing for his country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 If Woffinden wanted to race last year he could have been given a wildcard as there were 2 on offer. One went to the U21 champion in Josh Bates and the other to Danny King who didn't race in either semi-final. Given that, it appears perfectly fair to allow Robert Lambert a place in this year's final now that there is space following Auty's decision to quit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Do you think it's good a rider who can no longer get in his Austrailian national team decides to take a young British riders place in the British championship ? Oh Yes Tai is a True Brit of course and even has the British flag tattooed on his body and loves riding in his country in front of British fans plus so dedicated to the national title and racing for his country. I know it seems a bit strange to some people, but as far as I'm concerned if Rory is British and now rides as British then he has every right to be there if he qualified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) If Woffinden wanted to race last year he could have been given a wildcard as there were 2 on offer. One went to the U21 champion in Josh Bates and the other to Danny King who didn't race in either semi-final. Given that, it appears perfectly fair to allow Robert Lambert a place in this year's final now that there is space following Auty's decision to quit. He wasnt offered a wildcard because he declined to race in the semi finals, which were both the same weekends as a Grand Prix Only 7 went through from each semi final and Josh Bates rode in the Scunthorpe semi final so do a bit of research there. Danny King was racing in a pre arranged meeting abroad. Tai wanted to ride but they didnt give him a wildcard spot This year it was the top 8 hence no wildcards. So if someone pulls out then the next in line goes in which is Carl Wilkinson not somebody who didnt ride. Do you think it's good a rider who can no longer get in his Austrailian national team decides to take a young British riders place in the British championship ? Oh Yes Tai is a True Brit of course and even has the British flag tattooed on his body and loves riding in his country in front of British fans plus so dedicated to the national title and racing for his country. Point One..........if he is a British Citizen then yes he has every right to ride Point Two......you keep banging that lonely old drum...........born in England...............to English parents.................fool Edited May 31, 2017 by Gavan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Erm.... a rider needs a bike to ride, plus protection wear, plus spare tyres, plus tooling I can see the face on the txi driver and can imagine his reply to the potential client....... on yer bike.....so now we have Robert going up the A1 on his speedway bike, with 20 gall tank of methanol on his back.... love it. Not that difficult to hire a vehicle to take man and machine to the meeting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Not that difficult to hire a vehicle to take man and machine to the meeting It might be if you stuck by the side of a road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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